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OfflineVibe_Enthusiast
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Cosmic Eye] * 1
    #26511960 - 03/01/20 08:35 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

All that matters in the end is that he replied with his update and said how phenomenal of a time he had. The advice that was given on this thread was nothing shy of great.

Advice led him to success - which is what he has been looking for.

I'm glad you were able to experience the magic of the mushrooms! They can love you and fuck you harder than any women has ever had. So when I say this.. I mean it.. tread lightly buddy.

Sometimes mother mushroom gets a little too freaky and tries to probe you. Can be very offputting. Or she can kiss you down with her gentle lips and let you see the beauty within...

Tread lightly brother.


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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26512057 - 03/01/20 10:42 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Hi guys ! Sorry to interrupt the party, but Im reading a lot of divergences of opinions, which is fine I guess.

But hey, I'm mature enough to accept the consequences of my actions. I mean look, Ive been on thèse meds for like 5 years, exceptionnel the Bupropion, which I just began.

I did a shitload of coke with alcool, today Im sober but once upon a time not too far away, I was drinking à bottle of scotch or gin,.between 50-60% , per week.

Ive Been on opioids, on/off. Cannabis and hashich fan. So yea if you look at the picture,I am.fucking lucky I had no psychosis, delirium, mentals trauma, or schyzophrenia symptoms.

Snorted Dilaudid, Morphine and Codeine.

That Said, I am tired to be a walking zombie. My medication is screwing Up the connection with my soul, my spiritual canal, everything related to my mind. Yea, Im tired to be like this.

February 8 2020, I tried to commit suicide. Could have died but my wife Found me. After this épisode, I was desperate and started to look for alternatives to help against my depression. One of these was Psylocibin. And Im really Willing to give it a try. I mean, resetting my brain would be the nicest thing that happens in my life.

Sorry bout the orthograph, I was a bit stoned when typing. Peace


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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Snixx40]
    #26512132 - 03/02/20 12:12 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Hey snixx,

Really sorry to hear of your attempt but really pleased your wife found you.

If you have my kind of “luck”, mushrooms will show to you personally the phenomenal beauty of simply being alive. I tend to find mushrooms are gentle when you fundamentally go to them for help.

Mushrooms saved my life. Good luck on your new path ✊🏻
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Snixx40]
    #26512244 - 03/02/20 03:08 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Snixx40 said:
Hi guys ! Sorry to interrupt the party, but Im reading a lot of divergences of opinions, which is fine I guess.




Yeah, its the natural outgrowth of message forums. lol

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Snixx40 said:But hey, I'm mature enough to accept the consequences of my actions. I mean look, Ive been on thèse meds for like 5 years, exceptionnel the Bupropion, which I just began.

I did a shitload of coke with alcool, today Im sober but once upon a time not too far away, I was drinking à bottle of scotch or gin,.between 50-60% , per week.

Ive Been on opioids, on/off.




I am VERY HAPPY to hear that you aren't on those anymore. I'm sure I don't have to tell you this, but abusing alcohol and opiods will only exacerbate psychological problems. Sounds like you figured this out and got yourself clean already.


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Snixx40 said: Cannabis and hashich fan. So yea if you look at the picture,I am.fucking lucky I had no psychosis, delirium, mentals trauma, or schyzophrenia symptoms.




Let me ask you something. Have you found, through your own experimenting and use, that weed and hash help your symptoms at all? Because I have heard and seen this go both ways. Some people who have deeply rooted issues are vastly helped by various cannabinoids, and others find they can make things worse. What has your experience been?

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Snixx40 said:Snorted Dilaudid, Morphine and Codeine.




I'm assuming from your post that you don't do this anymore, right?

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Snixx40 said:That Said, I am tired to be a walking zombie. My medication is screwing Up the connection with my soul, my spiritual canal, everything related to my mind. Yea, Im tired to be like this.




Possibly dumb question, but have you been in therapy? I don't mean that you go to an MD (psychiatrist) he asks you perfunctory questions like, "How are you feeling?" "How are you sleeping?" "How do you feel your meds are working?" and then writes a bunch of scripts to whatever drugs the pharma reps gave him free samples of to try and hawk them to his office. I am talking about actual interactive therapy between you and a professional and perhaps group therapy? I ask because as some have suggested in this thread, maybe if you can get to the root of the problems you are facing, you may be able to be weaned off all your meds. Under your doctor's supervision and permission of course!

You know, we chiropractors have a cute little saying. It is, unfortunately not always as true as it is cute. But there is some truth in it in many cases. "When your doctor prescribed you Lithium or Thorazine, did he determine that those chemicals were somehow missing from your brain?" (I don't think you're on those drugs, but I used them as an example)

lol I know that's a simplistic idea, but as I said there's some truth there. Many of the meds doctors prescribe are inherently toxic, and while they are often a necessary evil, remember that your body, most likely, isn't "missing" those chemicals the way that a person who is lactose intolerant is missing the enzyme lactase, which digests the lactose in dairy. My point is, if you aren't missing those chemicals you're taking in your central nervous system, then perhaps there is a therapeutic path to get you off all those meds in time?

Only you and your doctors will know that, in the end. But maybe you and your doctors can eventually find a path away from those meds, who knows, right?


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February 8 2020, I tried to commit suicide. Could have died but my wife Found me. After this épisode, I was desperate and started to look for alternatives to help against my depression.




No joke, man! Glad she found you. I am also glad you're looking for possible alternatives to these meds, which, ironically enough, have their own sequelae of markedly negative psychological and central nervous system symptoms. I hope that you and your doctors can find a way to get you away from those meds, and that you can be weaned off of them someday.

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Snixx40 said: One of these was Psylocibin. And Im really Willing to give it a try. I mean, resetting my brain would be the nicest thing that happens in my life.

Sorry bout the orthograph, I was a bit stoned when typing. Peace




No worries! You should read some of my posts! LMAO Like this one, for instance.

Hey, I am all for the use of hallucinogens. I honestly wish the medical community would do the research and get these drugs off the Schedule I list, because I truly believe they have vast potential for helping people such as yourself, and not just used recreationally as people like me do. I think that someone like yourself, who has the issues you do, should perhaps try to make sure you have some kind of a trip-sitter, just in case you find yourself going down a rabbit-hole and have trouble finding your way out.

Others have already cautioned you about high doses, so I won't.


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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: LSA Woodrose]
    #26512246 - 03/02/20 03:16 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I’d be wary of a person who isn’t depressed with how things are.  I guess some people can dodge that bullet but down here in the nitty gritty, man it wears on a brother.  This isn’t how we’re supposed to be doing things.

There’s no way this many people should be on drugs for feeling like their life is lacking in quality..  if finally everybody is on them will we admit it COULD possibly be something we’re doing?

Who knows man it feels like the car is out of control and all you can do is just hold on and brace for impact.  Psychedelics are a blessing, is it really any surprise they’re Schedule 1 as bad as it gets dr00gz?  Or maybe because they’ll show you just how harmful it is to worship a made up bottom line that’s killing everything except Walmart shelves..


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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Amanita86] * 1
    #26512336 - 03/02/20 06:05 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

There's so much hubbub going on here...
Don't let the jabberwocky advice about your life decisions going around here make you any less certain of the course You decided to take.
Don't change up anything you're doing based on the advice being given, except in relation to the questions you actually pose.
It's all subjective to each individual's experience and their own misinterpretations of your situation.

You've made up your mind with the course you'd like to take and you're being cautious about it because of the unknowns.
As far as it seems, you just had a bit of an overreaction to the normal effects of the substance which lead you to get paranoid and try to stop it.
You even put more drugs on top of it and still didn't have any kind of adverse health effects.
As I said, the majority of adverse effects are psychosomatic - which is clearly what happened with you.

Read up on how the substances in psilocybin mushrooms effect your body, read up on how your medications effect your body. Draw parallels.
Usually with the type of medications you're talking about, the interaction is that your body is inhibited to the effects of psilocybin mushrooms. Maybe that's not the case. Either way, you should be able to find that information even with the 'limited' studies done on psilocybin (they're not that limited.)

People get their nuts twisted about the whole 'harm prevention' shit around here and end up just giving stupid advice that is far from what the OP needs to hear.
Do you, bud. There's a lot of knowledgeable people around here with the advice you're looking for - you just have to wade through the muck a bit.


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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: footpath]
    #26512502 - 03/02/20 09:26 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I've been there. Drank too much, did the wrong drugs, got depressed and wound up on Seroquel. After I sobered up, I stopped taking the pharmaceuticals and, eventually, was able to feel happy again. Seroquel just took away all emotion for me, basically masking the symptoms but not really ever helping anything. It's hard to stop those pharmaceuticals, the withdrawals are brutal, the emotional swings were intense, but once everything stabilizes...

Fast forward a year later, after I made it my mission to be healthy in every way, mushrooms taught me how to laugh and see the beauty in the world, something I had forgotten how to do. You've got a wife and kid, that sounds like something beautiful. Don't give up, it gets better.


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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Nauthere]
    #26512693 - 03/02/20 11:30 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Im feeling a lot of empathy from you guys, which Makes me pretty happy.

Il try to answers some questions the best I can. After my suicidal attempt, a psychiatrist took me as a patient. I started a therapy, and I meet the person once a week. Also subscribe to a therapy group, ppl who are depressed too.

In my case, my main problem is an incapacity to do normal day things, having probs to get out of bed, ( which is why Im taking bupropion.) Suppose to give fuel. Takes 4-6 Weeks to take effect, Been almost 4 Weeks now.

As for the cannabis, I am clearly noticing à différence when I smoke Indica/Sativas. I must be very cautious with the kind of terpenes, because yes, it happens, when i.e I smoke some heavy Indica Let's say 2 hours before bed, and the next day Will feel like an Hangover, and in the end feel more depressed that Day.

Right now, I got all the support I need, and Im really doing my homeworks when it comes to meds,Drugs, and interactions.

All I need is to start the wheel once and for all, and right now I am commited to it. Hope it answers some interrogations you guys had.

Have a great day guys, and thanks again for caring. This Community is really amazing. Peace!

PS. My next appointement with my psy is march 24, and Il definitly talk to him about psylocibin. The guy studied for 25 years and really know his stuffs about all Drugs.


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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Snixx40]
    #26512783 - 03/02/20 12:35 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I think that it’s a great idea to talk to your therapist about using psychedelic mushrooms. If he is on board great, he will be able to help a lot. If he isn’t willing to explore the option with you, then, you can ask to see another therapist. And in either case, the awareness level of the doctors is raised about patients seeking psychedelic experiences to resolve trauma and work through faulty psychology.


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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: feldman114]
    #26512822 - 03/02/20 12:54 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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feldman114 said:
The thing with mushrooms is...the more you try to be behind the wheel, the more likely you are to get lost.
Get in the passenger seat, man. The mushies will get you where you NEED to go, not where you WANT to.




I love this. Completely true. You simply cannot control mushroom trips.

I once heard a saying that goes like this: "Acid is like driving drunk down the autobahn, Shrooms are like being strapped into the passenger seat, and DMT is like being chained up and thrown in the trunk"


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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26513815 - 03/03/20 12:15 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

One recommendation that always fascinated me (yet i always forget to actually try it) is to use nitrous as a way to get away from unpleasant feelings during a trip. Guy called it his escape pods.

Would be sweet if it worked well because then you could get back on track without totally ending the trip like with a benzo. And its just a fun thing to do while tripping anyways

Anybody else know this to be effective??


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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: footpath]
    #26514504 - 03/03/20 12:05 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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....I should preface that with saying that I'm surprised that you had any effects with those medications - many will find they need to have them out of their system for months before noticing any effect.







I haven't read through the thread...


but to snixx40...if you want to get the full benefit & experience the full potential of what mushrooms (or other psychedelics) have to offer, get off some of those medications.

Serotonergic anti-depressants will dull down and block out a lot of the potential that mushrooms have to offer. Most people can't even experience psychedelics while on those types of medications/antidepressants.

Like footpath mentioned, I'm surprised you experienced anything at all considering all of the medications that you are on....regardless, they are likely blocking out a lot of the potential that mushrooms have.





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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #26514760 - 03/03/20 02:49 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Psilosopherr said:
One recommendation that always fascinated me (yet i always forget to actually try it) is to use nitrous as a way to get away from unpleasant feelings during a trip. Guy called it his escape pods.

Would be sweet if it worked well because then you could get back on track without totally ending the trip like with a benzo. And its just a fun thing to do while tripping anyways

Anybody else know this to be effective??




sabnock was the person who coined the term "escape pods" I believe. I almost won't ever trip without nitrous available. I may take smallerish doses without it, like 2-3 grams, but on my 15 grams excursions I need to have them available if things turn sideways. I wish I had a tank :'(


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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: SizlChest]
    #26515037 - 03/03/20 05:17 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks for corroborating :thumbup:


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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #26519850 - 03/06/20 01:02 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Psilosopherr said:
One recommendation that always fascinated me (yet i always forget to actually try it) is to use nitrous as a way to get away from unpleasant feelings during a trip. Guy called it his escape pods.

Would be sweet if it worked well because then you could get back on track without totally ending the trip like with a benzo. And its just a fun thing to do while tripping anyways

Anybody else know this to be effective??




I tried a whip-it just to try during an lsd trip, and jelly fish were all over the walls from the jelly fish tank video I was watching. It felt amazing, but I would say it increased the intensity of my trip, which is opposite of what I think an "escape pod" would be. I assume benzos decrease the intensity to bring you "back on track". It seems the mechanism to get back on track is different with nitrous? Even while seeing jelly fish everywhere vividly, I felt very lucid... Maybe it just forces you to let go, thus increasing the intensity, but it's easy because it just feels so good to surrender...

Thanks for mentioning this, I'll keep it in mind next time I try a whip-it.


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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Raccoon]
    #26533934 - 03/14/20 05:04 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I almost thought I was in the same boat as this guy, but I think I realize a big difference.  I realize my depression is a natural consequence of being in a shit situation.  The only real cure is to fix it.  It may be a bad assumption, but he doesn't talk about the marriage in any real positive way.  I'm guessing it is as bad as mine. 

I'm a bit stymied right now.  I know what I need to do to fix things, yet a can not muster enough will to act.  I'm hoping a little of the magic offered here will reconnect me to who I used to be so that I can get off my ass and do what needs to be done.  I don't think mushrooms will give me any sort of instant happiness.  I think there is more of a chance that they do just the opposite.

Any thoughts on this?  Am I barking up the wrong tree, or is this medicine going to do the trick?


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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: TheFinNewGuy] * 1
    #26533949 - 03/14/20 05:35 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

It tends to evaporate any bullshit you may have constructed and bolted onto your thoughts in order to justify or place yourself in a ‘winning’ position, basically lie to yourself.  So, in a way it’s a good method to shine a light on truth... now whether that truth is easy to swallow depends entirely on what you’ve been doing in your head.  So, if you’re a fan of truth it can be a refresher.  Sometimes the truth it shows you can be a hard pill to swallow and there’s a type of person out there that doesn’t handle that real well.

As far as eating mushrooms one night and waking up to the perfect life, that seems pretty far fetched but if you’re looking to get your bearings then it can be real useful.  Like just about everything it’s all in what you do with it.


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