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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26543910 - 03/19/20 04:44 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

An effective treatment for #Coronavirus #COVID-19 has been found in a common anti-malarial drug


UPDATE: A Covid-19 case correlation between malarial and non-malarial countries has been plotted by Dr. Roy Spencer, and the results are stunning – see below.

Encouraging news: three new medical studies show a commonly available anti-malaria drug known as chloroquine aka chloroquine phosphate is showing strong results against COVID-19 infections in both China and South Korea.


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Sandala]
    #26544047 - 03/19/20 07:26 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

My solution is too ignore all government suggestions and decrease social distancing.

It's just common sense

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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26547107 - 03/20/20 04:36 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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The US doesn't appear to be taking this seriously enough.  We're about to pass Iran and Spain for fastest growth rate...



We did it!  We're now on track to be number one in the world:



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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26547493 - 03/20/20 07:51 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

U-S-A!!! NUMBER ONE!

See? We're the BEST! FREEDOM!


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Sandala]
    #26547797 - 03/20/20 11:16 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Sandala said:
An effective treatment for #Coronavirus #COVID-19 has been found in a common anti-malarial drug


UPDATE: A Covid-19 case correlation between malarial and non-malarial countries has been plotted by Dr. Roy Spencer, and the results are stunning – see below.

Encouraging news: three new medical studies show a commonly available anti-malaria drug known as chloroquine aka chloroquine phosphate is showing strong results against COVID-19 infections in both China and South Korea.




Almost nobody uses chloroquine for malaria anymore. Malaria has been resistant to chloroquine for decades.


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Sandala]
    #26547892 - 03/21/20 12:36 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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That is capitalism. He cornered the market, knocked out his competition, and completely controlled the supply of a high demand product. A product without which, people would die. This means he had unlimited room to dictate his price, and people would have to pay it to live. He could have cleaned out entire cities.

People say that's some special "evil" kind of capitalism, but no, they are wrong. This is what capitalism looks like. This is absolute peak capitalism, a textbook example.




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Sandala said:
An effective treatment for #Coronavirus #COVID-19 has been found in a common anti-malarial drug


UPDATE: A Covid-19 case correlation between malarial and non-malarial countries has been plotted by Dr. Roy Spencer, and the results are stunning – see below.

Encouraging news: three new medical studies show a commonly available anti-malaria drug known as chloroquine aka chloroquine phosphate is showing strong results against COVID-19 infections in both China and South Korea.



They just raised the price of chloroquine 98% (maybe more soon).  Capitalism baby.



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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26547921 - 03/21/20 12:55 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

The other thread in the pub, I thought someone posted comparison maps showing countries with longstanding malaria problems against countries that didn't.

Looked to me like they weren't getting hit much at all.

Papua New Guinea registered it's first case within the last 24hrs.

Admittedly they wouldn't get the amount of travellers other countries get but...


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Stable Genius]
    #26548095 - 03/21/20 04:45 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I heard the Africans were happy that the drug as found that works, is a terrible drug with terrible side effects.

What do people expect? We are an enormous nation with free travel.
It doesn't matter if everyone does,we shouldn't give up freedom.
This is just a precedent for the next bad thing


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26548157 - 03/21/20 06:05 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Kryptos said:
That is capitalism. He cornered the market, knocked out his competition, and completely controlled the supply of a high demand product. A product without which, people would die. This means he had unlimited room to dictate his price, and people would have to pay it to live. He could have cleaned out entire cities.

People say that's some special "evil" kind of capitalism, but no, they are wrong. This is what capitalism looks like. This is absolute peak capitalism, a textbook example.




Quote:

Sandala said:
An effective treatment for #Coronavirus #COVID-19 has been found in a common anti-malarial drug


UPDATE: A Covid-19 case correlation between malarial and non-malarial countries has been plotted by Dr. Roy Spencer, and the results are stunning – see below.

Encouraging news: three new medical studies show a commonly available anti-malaria drug known as chloroquine aka chloroquine phosphate is showing strong results against COVID-19 infections in both China and South Korea.



They just raised the price of chloroquine 98% (maybe more soon).  Capitalism baby.






Chloroquine has been off patent for decades.

Where is this data that chloroquine is effective? We need data.


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Stable Genius]
    #26548163 - 03/21/20 06:07 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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The other thread in the pub, I thought someone posted comparison maps showing countries with longstanding malaria problems against countries that didn't.

Looked to me like they weren't getting hit much at all.

Papua New Guinea registered it's first case within the last 24hrs.

Admittedly they wouldn't get the amount of travellers other countries get but...




Chloroquine is not a drug that people in most of the world would be taking. Malaria is pretty much resistant to it.


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #26548205 - 03/21/20 06:41 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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China isn't showing leadership. They are losing and pushing propaganda like their government always does. They tried to duck the numbers in the beginning, and they tried to spread disinformation about where it origionated.
Their hiding it caused the slow response time.

The Chinese government is

always

lying.

China is guaranteeing it will be infected again. For us it's good because it slows it down. The faced of China being a.developed nation, and second in the world is over.
It's just the last two years of World War Two...
the battle of Midway destroys Japan's navy. There was no way to win at that point.




Wait.....didnt Trymp say the whole thing was overblown and everything was gonna be fine, people are going to work fine and not spreading it type of blather? You'll give Trump a pass on downplaying the seriousness of things?


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #26548228 - 03/21/20 07:07 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I don't have to give him a pass for thast. It's an inconsequential thing only idiots would think about.
Well he is saying that, I don't know what is happening behind the scenes, and I'm not enough of a moron to act like I do.

This virus has definitely made it easier to see who is an NPC


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: koods]
    #26548247 - 03/21/20 07:23 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Chloroquine has been off patent for decades.

Where is this data that chloroquine is effective? We need data.




There was a link on the original WUWT post to a google doc that had all the studies from China, S. Korea, & the CDC, but Google memory holed it for violating terms of service, if you click on it now you just get a google notice :crazyeyes: The studies are sumarized in that thread tho.

there were some well educated comments from people who had worked on SARS, the take away for me was that any source of Qinine (Chinese used 400mg per day, Koreans used 500mg for 10 days) supplimented with Zinc will be effective, and act as a preventative.

Although  there are some documented side effects from quinine they seem to only be for long term use, so it seems very low risk to me.


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Sandala]
    #26548383 - 03/21/20 08:47 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: specialpeopleclub] * 1
    #26548798 - 03/21/20 12:15 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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I don't have to give him a pass for thast. It's an inconsequential thing only idiots would think about.
Well he is saying that, I don't know what is happening behind the scenes, and I'm not enough of a moron to act like I do.

This virus has definitely made it easier to see who is an NPC




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That didn't happen.

If it did, it wasn't that bad.

If it was, it's not a big deal.

It is is, it's not my fault.

If it was, I didn't mean it.

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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Kryptos]
    #26548803 - 03/21/20 12:19 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/487900-trump-urges-states-secure-their-own-medical-supplies-coronavirus

Honestly, right now China could behead the US government. They could come in, bypass the US government, and help states directly, and this will be what Trump asked for. It will also be an effective demonstration of the uselessness of the US government, and a great worldwide boost for China.


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: koods]
    #26548841 - 03/21/20 12:38 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Where is this data that chloroquine is effective? We need data.



It appears it does well in combination with azithromycin.  Here's some early results:



Source


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26548874 - 03/21/20 12:56 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

The "effective" dosages are pretty high. There are reports of chloroquine ODs already.

Almost seems like chemotherapy at this point--the cure works by killing you and hoping the virus dies before you do.


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Kryptos]
    #26548887 - 03/21/20 01:03 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I didn't see anything in your article about 'dosages'?

In fact, your article subheader said "Surge in interest raises concerns about people ‘self-medicating without guidance’"


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26548940 - 03/21/20 01:29 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Your articles have dosages corresponding to the graph. And they are pretty high.

That graph also has a sample size of 26 and no error bars, without the raw data sadly. It's something to look at, but if you're making conclusions you might as well throw darts at a list of drugs. Which, while ethically dubious, I am of the personal opinion terminal patients should be allowed to do.

It appears to be what diaper donnie is doing.


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