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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 1
#26593762 - 04/11/20 03:51 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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specialpeopleclub said: China isn't showing leadership. Their hiding it caused the slow response time.
China is guaranteeing it will be infected again. For us it's good because it slows it down.
I just heard about the mass graves. No, not in China, in New York. Has this been posted yet?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8205237/Prisoners-hazmat-suits-continue-dig-mass-graves-NYCs-Hart-Island.html
The freedom of press is awesome, isn't it?
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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#26593843 - 04/11/20 04:49 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: I just heard about the mass graves. No, not in China, in New York.
That is such a terrible sight I've not wanted to post how we are doing
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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Stable Genius]
#26593904 - 04/11/20 05:29 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thankfully, the dailymail isn't the only site reporting this, or I would seriously question Falcon's choice of news suppliers.
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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Kryptos] 1
#26594048 - 04/11/20 06:51 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Its unclamed people. You pay for burial plots, and they have to bury them somewhere.
China doesnt bury people. They burn them. Thats why they brought a bunch of creamator ovens to Wuhan. Desposes of evidance.
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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Kryptos]
#26594100 - 04/11/20 07:16 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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It's been on the news here from around Friday.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-10/new-york-state-posts-record-coronavirus-death-rise-covid-19/12140380
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Aerial images showed workers putting coffins into trenches on Hart Island — a 1.5 kilometre-long island off the Bronx where more than a million mostly homeless and poor New Yorkers have been buried over the years.
Typically, about 25 bodies a week are buried on the island, mostly for people whose families can't afford a funeral, or who go unclaimed by relatives.
Burials are now happening five days a week, with around 24 burials each day, according to the Department of Correction.
About 40 coffins were lined up for burial on the island on Thursday, and two fresh trenches had been dug in recent days.
Same footage was used on a few different news reports.
From the 1.40 mark
From the 1.25 mark
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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Billy Ray] 1
#26715823 - 06/03/20 05:37 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Eminence said: Well the Chinese drain the bile from captive bears and use it for medicine, some are using it to treat covid. Also, eating bowls of live baby mice is a thing in china. And that's just what they do to animals. I'd say a lot of things about China is barbaric, don't care if anyone calls me xenophobic for it.
You cook people sitting on a chair using electricity...
It's disgusting to rationalize someone eating live baby mice. The Chinese government isn't even with you on this one because that "delicacy" is banned.
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specialpeopleclub said: So does china. Plus they are responsible for.every death caused by this virus.
1000 a day, holy fuck. In one city in America
Should start a prayer thread soon and start listing names like koods was doing.I Not like the deaths are stopping
I am fairly sure than china does not use electric chair as execution system
How are they responsibles for every death? like, when you don't do a proper quarantine for a unstoppable virus than the WHO have been warning that it might happen any time soon for decades well... people die yes. (Spain is doing a shitty quarantine and work too).
To stop the deaths, stay at home, buy the minimum things you need, and stay like that as long as possible until the quarantine is over.
We wouldn't be in this situation if the CCP wasn't absolute shit. If they didn't starve their people throughout history there wouldn't be wet markets. If they weren't such a shitty government they would have closed their wet markets after the SARS outbreak in 2002. Lives could have been saved if they didn't suppress information before this became an obvious threat to the world.
The WHO didn't help curtail the spread of coronavirus. Taiwanese officials warned WHO of human-to-human transmission of the coronavirus in late December. In mid-January WHO said there was no evidence of this being the case.
So would you say the Chinese Communist Party is completely responsible for the 80+ wet markets in NYC?
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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Brian Jones] 2
#26717316 - 06/03/20 05:13 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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CCP came about because of extreme necessity due to extreme hardship and seemingly insurmountable problems Almost Everything was in order to recover from and reconsolidate power and organize after Imperial China fell apart, in large part due to the Opium eras, corruption & the ensuing conflict & various Wars.
Now a days , outside of the most developed provinces (and in those too, to an extent) you have “free” trade & economics without a lot of oversight or any oversight in a lot of cases. That’s where all the fuckery in regards to food problems come free. Ie. Wet markets & disease. Etc. CTM has had its grip somewhat loosened on the modern generations but it’s still very much culturally ingrained in the population overall. That’s another problem. Some is legit, much is bullsht.
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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: The Blind Ass]
#26718757 - 06/04/20 10:00 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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You're quite right. Full blown communism does arise from "extreme necessity due to extreme hardship and seemingly insurmountable problems". And it emerges in places that had very little freedom to begin with.
Yet critics want to question why they didn't choose to be middle class people in a market economy. And critics also fail to see that the evolutionary process to social democracy in Western Europe has little to do with communism, although they both have origins in Karl Marx's writings.
I just wrote my post (fully intending to be snide) in response to yet another poster who thinks we can blame all our current problems on China.
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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Brian Jones]
#26719183 - 06/04/20 01:11 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Brian Jones] 7
#26719271 - 06/04/20 01:50 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Brian Jones said: You're quite right. Full blown communism does arise from "extreme necessity due to extreme hardship and seemingly insurmountable problems". And it emerges in places that had very little freedom to begin with.
Yet critics want to question why they didn't choose to be middle class people in a market economy. And critics also fail to see that the evolutionary process to social democracy in Western Europe has little to do with communism, although they both have origins in Karl Marx's writings.
I just wrote my post (fully intending to be snide) in response to yet another poster who thinks we can blame all our current problems on China.
What I find exhausting is people seemingly having no understanding of the extent to which their opinions (this week) on China, or Russia, or Syria, or Libya etc, are so heavily influenced or directly controlled by the mainstream media, especially the left wing media which they would never in their wildest dreams imagine is actually propaganda.
They will assume that whatever is printed in the left wing media (the New York Times etc) must automatically be true, and that providing links to these newspapers/articles is tantamount to providing actual evidence.
Not only is the liberal (faux) left wing press (The Guardian, NYT, BBC etc) a purveyor of propaganda, it is propaganda that is masterly in its sophistication incredibly subtle/subliminal which really only gently nudges people towards arriving at certain opinions, as opposed to the Fox News variety -laughable by BBC or NYT standards- that beats one over the head with it. But it is still just propaganda, driven by the corporate interests of the American empire.
Like all great propaganda they generally do tell the truth consistently enough, so when necessary (for state matters) people will not notice the (big) lie's sneaking past, and while pushing one agenda (anti-Trump or racial injustice etc) it simultaneously manipulates its audience into supporting and going along with another (the general agenda), such as the official 911 narrative, or the resulting war on terror (ISIS etc).
Criminal psychopathy, or 'evil' is by and large portrayed as being extant only in foreign governments, Russia and China the Middle East etc, never our own (except for Trump of course who is fair game) which must of course be bitterly and horrendously ironic to the enriched uranium splattered victims of our latest imperial conquests.
In our own governments (especially mine the UK) evil acts are instead portrayed and explained away as 'incompetence' which basically means 'oopps' yes we killed hundreds of thousands of people, but we'll try harder the next time we are elected! This is the extent of their accountability, no matter what they do, and although they might be sidelined for a term or two, they will always be back.
Call me cynical but that is not my idea of democracy, but a total sham...
The west (whose governments purposefully did nothing whatsoever to control C-19) meaning Uncle Sam of course, who in tolerating no rival in its attempts to dominate the world, and its dwindling resources by force, unleashes its propaganda apparatus against one of the few remaining impediments in its way (China) transparently seeking to ostracize/alienate it from the world community, and once again (as with Syria, Libya etc) the gullible masses dutifully take out the pitchforks, and fire up the old moral indignation for the newly appointed enemy (this week), seemingly utterly oblivious to the true nature and motivations of the regime(s) in their own backyards.
If only people realized what a truly dangerous game these nutcases are now playing...
When nonchalantly proposing that the west crash China's economy (which is what they are trying to do) or incite the overthrow of the CCP, such hypocrites speak as if they are doing so on behalf of the Chinese people themselves, loftily and moralistically advocating dastardly policies that would in actuality destroy millions of Chinese lives- the very men woman, and children they are pretending to care so much about, and leading us to the brink of war by perpetuating criminally irresponsible propaganda.
How many thousands/millions(?) of people have died in these last twenty years on the basis of similarly distorted logic, that the west is somehow morally superior to anything and anyone not labelled 'democracy' and therefore has a right to inflict this moral superiority upon alien nations with its earth-shattering plumes of enriched uranium?
We may have freedom of speech, and democracy but it is now so overwhelmed by propaganda/disinformation, and so open to manipulation (even on places like Reddit, but especially on moderated media websites) by paid journalists, or online shill's/bots that the entire process is increasingly contaminated.
They have the resources not only to control the mainstream media but to flood political forums and social media, with so much disinformation that most people will assume that whatever narrative they are disseminating is the general/popular consensus, and will therefore themselves happily parrot it, believing their ideas to have been formed independently. Not the same methods as an authoritarian dictatorship maybe, but the people end up as equally ill-informed.
All the while however as people are misdirected to 'look over there...' our own nations' civil liberties are further undermined and flushed down the toilet as C-19 holds the lid open...
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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: wolf8312] 1
#26719280 - 06/04/20 01:53 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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We may have freedom of speech, and democracy but it is now so overwhelmed by propaganda/disinformation, and so open to manipulation (even on places like Reddit, but especially on moderated media websites) by paid journalists, or online shill's/bots that the entire process is increasingly contaminated.
They have the resources not only to control the mainstream media but to flood political forums and social media, with so much disinformation that most people will assume that whatever narrative they are disseminating is the general/popular consensus, and will therefore themselves happily parrot it, believing their ideas to have been formed independently. Not the same methods as an authoritarian dictatorship maybe, but the people end up as equally ill-informed.
So on point & extraordinarily relevant to the current times ...it’s tentacles have metastasized into everything nowadays - it is now a monstrosity of a hard problem.... 
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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: The Blind Ass]
#26719299 - 06/04/20 01:59 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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We may have freedom of speech, and democracy but it is now so overwhelmed by propaganda/disinformation, and so open to manipulation (even on places like Reddit, but especially on moderated media websites) by paid journalists, or online shill's/bots that the entire process is increasingly contaminated.
They have the resources not only to control the mainstream media but to flood political forums and social media, with so much disinformation that most people will assume that whatever narrative they are disseminating is the general/popular consensus, and will therefore themselves happily parrot it, believing their ideas to have been formed independently. Not the same methods as an authoritarian dictatorship maybe, but the people end up as equally ill-informed.
So on point & extraordinarily relevant to the current times ...it’s such a monster of a problem.
Thanks for the kind words man cheered me up a bit!
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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: wolf8312]
#26719307 - 06/04/20 02:02 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: wolf8312]
#26719602 - 06/04/20 04:28 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Very good post, wolf8312.
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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Stable Genius]
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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: starfire_xes] 1
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Good post wolf8312 
I'd go further, in that the Left/Right thing is really a false ditchotomy, millionaires and 'useful idiots' of the establishment class wearing blue/red team colours in service of the bankster families, divide & conquer.
We don't really have a democracy, we can't vote for anything the establishmnet/bankster class doesn't want, e.g. monetary reform, we can't change anything until we change the way money works.
We don't really have free speech either, you can be locked up for saying any number of things thesdays, if they can't lock you up for it they have a million different ways to make you wind your neck in and put the populous back to sleep to quell their cognitive dissonence instead.
This thread is a perfect example of divide & conquer programming on a global scale, as if the Chinese (or insert bogey man country of choice) people are really our enemy, if it comes down to people from any country in the street the majority would never go to war, only the brainwashed minority marching to a globalist tune.
Every country has a bankster class, all sat round the same globalist table divying up global resources and pushing their pawns forward for profit and control, trebles all round slapping each other on the back when another well planned peice of their total global control plan falls into place.
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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Sandala] 1
#26731275 - 06/09/20 12:05 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sandala said: Good post wolf8312 
I'd go further, in that the Left/Right thing is really a false ditchotomy, millionaires and 'useful idiots' of the establishment class wearing blue/red team colours in service of the bankster families, divide & conquer.
We don't really have a democracy, we can't vote for anything the establishmnet/bankster class doesn't want, e.g. monetary reform, we can't change anything until we change the way money works.
We don't really have free speech either, you can be locked up for saying any number of things thesdays, if they can't lock you up for it they have a million different ways to make you wind your neck in and put the populous back to sleep to quell their cognitive dissonence instead.
This thread is a perfect example of divide & conquer programming on a global scale, as if the Chinese (or insert bogey man country of choice) people are really our enemy, if it comes down to people from any country in the street the majority would never go to war, only the brainwashed minority marching to a globalist tune.
Every country has a bankster class, all sat round the same globalist table divying up global resources and pushing their pawns forward for profit and control, trebles all round slapping each other on the back when another well planned peice of their total global control plan falls into place.

Completely agree. I just wonder how far they will go now. Will they be content with the illusive dichotomy, and some sham semblance of democracy, or are they now dispensing with any pretence altogether, and will shortly start rounding up dissidents?
What's worrying myself is, all of a sudden the media is now drawing our attention to all these suddenly newly emerging left/right wing militia groups.
Seems like the perfect pretext (after a few well-placed depth charges) to start rounding people up under anti-terrorism laws. A more inclusive War on Terrorism perhaps, with no longer it simply being foreign Muslims being rounded up, but anyone they fancy.
Hope I'm wrong of course...
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