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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #26591966 - 04/10/20 07:43 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Ive seen arguments why they arent going to be forst economically, politically, and geographically.



You should share those arguments if you expect people to take you seriously.

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The experts you are listening to are wrong unless they are going by china's middle class that counts people making $4000 a year as 'middle class'.



Have you considered the low cost of living in China?  Free healthcare?  Low cost college?  There's more than just base salary.  The US isn't even a top 20 country in terms of median wealth.

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Their growth is mowtly manufsctured through IP theft, currency manipulation, jobs thst dont produce value such as the many empty poorly built apartments all over China.



Have you ever seen the buildings in Shanghai?  A LOT better than many American cities, like Detroit.


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #26591968 - 04/10/20 07:43 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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China isnt. Ive seen arguments why they arent going to be forst economically, politically, and geographically.

The experts you are listening to are wrong unless they are going by china's middle class that counts people making $4000 a year as 'middle class'.

Chinese technology is very behind ours and what they have they stole. They have no ability to project and havne been able to in all their history.



China didnt inject capitalism into their economy. They have a couple cities where they opened up, and one of them doesnt want to be chinese. Their growth has alrrwdy started growing, and their growth long term compairted to the US isnt good at its best.
Worse, their growth is mowtly manufsctured through IP theft, currency manipulation, jobs thst dont produce value such as the many empty poorly built apartments all over China.





You missing the point. China will be the world's largest economy period. I said nothing about their middle classes relative to ours. 

With money come political power. That doesn't mean that other countries want to emulate China's political system.

I can't figure out what your point is on geography.


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26592050 - 04/10/20 08:20 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I already have posted several videos by the that outline why china is in a bad long term position and we are in a very fortunate one


He says relativley similar things in every fideo, but I like the couple interviews he has.

In short
Demographics, geography, trade. China is in a bad position.

China has problems on all sides


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: specialpeopleclub] * 1
    #26592185 - 04/10/20 09:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Most of their land is pretty uninhabitable.
http://factsanddetails.com/china/cat10/sub64/item400.html#chapter-0
I'm not sure what this has to do woth their position as a super power?


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #26592199 - 04/10/20 09:31 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, you can draw a similar map of the US. The middle part consists of primarily corn, Chinese pigs, and like, a dozen racist old dudes.


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Kryptos]
    #26592224 - 04/10/20 09:45 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

That link is nice.


The implications arent the same. The US has twice the agricultural land of china.
China's populatipon also intersects with the decent amount of agricultural land they have.


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: specialpeopleclub] * 3
    #26592235 - 04/10/20 09:47 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, and Chinese ownership intersects with the decent amount of agricultural land we have.

Republicans have been scrapping and selling the US to the highest bidder for nearly half a century.


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Kryptos]
    #26592265 - 04/10/20 10:01 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

You are just trying for insults.

I wasnt pointing the population out because of that. I was pointing it out because chinese land is polluted and has cities where it shouldnt.

We didnt do that


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: specialpeopleclub] * 2
    #26592386 - 04/10/20 11:10 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

We have cities where we shouldn't. Much of the Western U.S. has issues getting water.


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26592408 - 04/10/20 11:29 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Not what i was saying. The midwest is the single largest streach of agricultural land in the world and we didnt build our densidt population centers there.


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #26592453 - 04/11/20 12:08 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Apparently, Chicago doesn't exist.

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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Kryptos]
    #26592465 - 04/11/20 12:15 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Apparently, Chicago doesn't exist.

:huxleyfacepalm:




I know. I'm apparently a figment of my imagination.


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26592496 - 04/11/20 12:51 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Its the largest one and its up against the lake.
We have people in the midwest. It isnt 1.5 billion, minus 6%.

Many chinese cities are sprawled over their usable land.


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: specialpeopleclub] * 2
    #26592553 - 04/11/20 01:44 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

In the first place I don't know what your point is.

In the second place, that population density map you posted appears to be rubbish.
Look at India. Mumbai (Bombay) is the 2nd most populated city in India and 7th in the world. If you count the metropolitan area it's actually more populated than Delhi. Hyderabad has the 3rd highest population in India. Yet on your map neither is showing up as a highly populated area.


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26592579 - 04/11/20 02:10 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

It isnt a perfect map. Its just to give a general picture of the population spread. India isnt the importantpoint.

Chinas population, which is three times ours, is concentrated where their best agriculture should be. The US has more useful land and hasnt done that.

I think it started when I replied to a post by that one person that seems to like china. Or you saying they wpuld be number one. I dont remember


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: specialpeopleclub] * 3
    #26593167 - 04/11/20 10:26 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

If the "unimportant" india part of that map is innaccurate, how can I trust the China part?


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    #26593443 - 04/11/20 12:53 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Hey, quit calling out his propaganda! Only specialpeople get to decide what's propaganda and what isn't!


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26593467 - 04/11/20 01:07 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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In the first place I don't know what your point is.

In the second place, that population density map you posted appears to be rubbish.
Look at India. Mumbai (Bombay) is the 2nd most populated city in India and 7th in the world. If you count the metropolitan area it's actually more populated than Delhi. Hyderabad has the 3rd highest population in India. Yet on your map neither is showing up as a highly populated area.




wot?

the heat map has Mumbai as the darkest colour/maximum population density
and Hyderabad has the colouring of second highest





given how much of Hyderabad is being developed with ring road and natural spaces,
the density distribution seems about appropriate





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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #26593505 - 04/11/20 01:20 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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China isn't showing leadership. Their hiding it caused the slow response time.

China is guaranteeing it will be infected again. For us it's good because it slows it down.



I just heard about the mass graves.  No, not in China, in New York.  Has this been posted yet?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8205237/Prisoners-hazmat-suits-continue-dig-mass-graves-NYCs-Hart-Island.html


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26593573 - 04/11/20 01:49 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Not posted, but it's been all over the news for some time.

It's also not out of the ordinary, Hart Island has been a mass grave since the civil war.


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