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Re: Why is it called tripping? [Re: DemonSlaya]
#26531273 - 03/12/20 03:30 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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DemonSlaya said: I hate the words psychedelic and tripping.
it gives a bad name to these magic potions. and associate with a dumb culture
It over simplifies whats going on as a "woooo trippy woooo experience"
mushrooms can give you superpowers and maximum energy but yall just goofin
DMT is instant super sayan powers but yall just teleporting to other dimensions n shit
These things can be used to gain secret knowledge about our own species but instead yall would rather talk to the elves..
come on yall wake up
I used to dislike psychedelic, but after extracting my own DMT and trying it, and witnessing it, psychedelic, believe it or not, was really the first word I thought of because it encompasses much else. For instance, it was beautiful, original, or novel, and everything else, but we know one word can refer to the entirety of it, for brevity. Tripping is slang, because in places where they say "hella", saying someone is "trippin'" means they are mistaken. Usually when tripping on psychedelics, the connection is made through direct experience rather than reading or wondering about it, as hallucinations or bizarre thoughts might cause someone to tell themselves that they must be "trippin'" because what they're seeing can't be real. Explaining "it" to non-users of psychoactive substances like they're five is entirely different than casually chatting about them with those in the know.
Then there are those who call the wavy lines weak or boring, but they fail to argue about how that part is only the "afterglow" and not the main hallucination. They just don't know how it works and DMT, LSD, and psilocybin mushrooms are all different but similar so any nuanced explaining is best saved until after they tried them, and smoked weed and salvia for good measure too. That isn't advice, as I don't advise anyone to "use a drug", and especially not a psychedelic (why would I recommend that to anyone?).
There's a song called Psychedelic Funk by Kottonmouth Kings, who are known for rapping about weed. It gets awkward rapping about mushrooms or acid just to talk about how high you got. That's probably why some don't like the word. Cannabis is a mild psychedelic, and mushrooms and DMT are psychedelic. LSD is psychedelic too but salvia is more psychoactive than psychedelic, per se, although it's visual.
Mushrooms don't give superpowers unless they're third eye and ray based. LSD gives superpowers but also, in reality, makes you need more control over their power. DMT is the most visually powerful entheogen. In fact, it's ironic in a sense because most "predictions" say telling people about DMT use just makes them jealous and angry; it doesn't help with getting laid, making friends, or having better material to talk about.
Elves and fairy aren't one thing. You can only push it so far. The seeming randomness to psychedelics in relation to the "humor" doesn't appeal to most. I did mushrooms recently and put Dennis McKenna on to guide the trip and reduce stress. The psilocybin showed the usual "chartreuse" colors and abstract designs at first, then it was like a later Sonic stage. Then Dennis started to sound like "Dr. Robotnik" so I turned it off for more silent darkness. Someone might say something about mushrooms being more like Super Mario, but there was some of that too. The entire thing can be called fairy, as faerie visiting me is what happened when I did DMT. Call it what you want.
It's hypocritical, almost, to say we can learn about our species. From my experience telling people, they ignore and ridicule me instead. I already know most, at this point, I can just recommend a textbook called Life in the Universe, which is from a class I took in 2013. It has most information to get you thinking on the right track in it, and is meant to be a "sequel" or "spiritual successor" to regular astronomy courses. Then use Terence McKenna to supplement your own psychedelic history, if necessary, or Leary, and anyone else. Also, use Google to look up nursing facts if you didn't major in it in college or take microbio and nutrition classes. However, be mindful that it's more than a game of knowing as much information as possible so you can talk about anything to impress people, because some find value in "humility", although I wouldn't overdo it.
DMT is more fairy-like while LSD is more elf like, but I also took a dose of acid once and when the visual part kicked in, with eyes closed, I saw a fairy dance, there were two of them, basically, and they were dancing brilliantly. It was exquisite. They look professional, but also unreal, but real and alive, like alien, or fairy, in otherwords. They were visiting me, or perhaps I them, since I took the acid. They were "Tinkerbell" sorts, wearing skirts and tops, holding wands with star tips, and their wings were so that I could see the four corners of the wing tips and ends from in front. Their dance was such that they would spin around. It went on for five or so minutes, then it ended.
The next acid dose I did there was, like, a blue "psychedelic" looking thing that just gave me a "can opener" sensation. It was how they say mushrooms are more natural but LSD has a more "synthetic" feel. DMT is like trying to obtain a smokable form of psilocybin and ripping a huge hypothetical dose out of it from a bong, but said form only lasts 5-10 minutes regardless (unless with an MAO-I). It's also structurally similar to serotonin, and not difficult to make a connection.
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Just because the word 'tryptamine' has been around since the '20s and some psychedelics are tryptamines doesn't mean the word 'Trip' comes from tryptamine.
It doesn't mean it doesn't either though. I don't care enough to argue or look it up
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BooShow said:
Just because the word 'tryptamine' has been around since the '20s and some psychedelics are tryptamines doesn't mean the word 'Trip' comes from tryptamine.
It doesn't mean it doesn't either though. I don't care enough to argue or look it up
So, you are in the habit of stating fallacious claims as fact, and then when challenged, and you will push back, but when it is clear that you were mistaken, you say you don’t care to argue? That’s very convenient for you, isn’t it? 
Lol, sorry mang, I been in an argumentative mood lately.
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Re: Why is it called tripping? [Re: Shr00mEater]
#26531293 - 03/12/20 03:42 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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HAHA, it's totally fine and understandable. I get that way too sometimes. Right now though I'm supposed to be working so I'm not putting full effort into it.
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Re: Why is it called tripping? [Re: DemonSlaya]
#26531294 - 03/12/20 03:42 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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it's because you are likely to trip out on things, to look beseechingly into the deeper dimensions, or lean into memories, all very tripped out on trippy extensions of the moment.
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Like others have said your taking a tripp in to a different dimension or realatiy depending how far your willing to go. thats why its called tripping lol.
I think your over reacting a tadd bit lol.
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Re: Why is it called tripping? [Re: Mach z 800]
#26532446 - 03/13/20 10:19 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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https://www.etymonline.com/word/trip
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trip (v.)
late 14c., "tread or step lightly and nimbly, skip, dance, caper," from Old French triper "jump around, dance around, strike with the feet" (12c.), from a Germanic source (compare Middle Dutch trippen "to skip, trip, hop; to stamp, trample," Low German trippeln, Frisian tripje, Dutch trappen, Old English treppan "to tread, trample") related to trap (n.).
The senses of "to stumble" (intransitive), "strike with the foot and cause to stumble" (transitive) are from mid-15c. in English. Meaning "to release" (a catch, lever, etc.) is recorded from 1897; trip-wire is attested from 1868. Related: Tripped; tripping.
trip (n.)
"act or action of tripping" (transitive), early 14c., from trip (v.); sense of "a short journey or voyage" is from mid-15c.; the exact connection to the earlier sense is uncertain. The meaning "psychedelic drug experience" is first recorded 1959 as a noun; the verb in this sense is from 1966, from the noun.
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Re: Why is it called tripping? [Re: mongo lloyd]
#26532489 - 03/13/20 10:37 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Leave it to an etymologist to omit the part where black Americans started using 'trippin' in the early 20th century to mean acting crazy, reckless, foolish, etc. Which you can pretty directly give credit to for the hippy adaptation in the mid 20th century. It's just convenient that it also means journey and totally coincidental that it sounds like a part of tryptamine.
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Re: Why is it called tripping? [Re: footpath]
#26532529 - 03/13/20 11:05 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I wouldn't be surprised if the scientists who discovered tryptamine named it after its effect
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Re: Why is it called tripping? [Re: Bsh]
#26532567 - 03/13/20 11:38 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I would be extremely surprised if that were the case.
The word tryptamine has a totally different meaning.
Tryptamine Wiki
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Re: Why is it called tripping? [Re: Bsh]
#26532569 - 03/13/20 11:38 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nah, it comes from tryptophan which comes from trypsin which is a protein named after the Greek word for rubbing/to rub, tribein, because they found it by rubbing a pancreas with glycerin.
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Re: Why is it called tripping? [Re: DemonSlaya]
#26532672 - 03/13/20 12:47 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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It is documented:
The term "trip" was first coined by US Army scientists during the 50s when they were experimenting with LSD.
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I love these bullshit threads.
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Re: Why is it called tripping? [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26533286 - 03/13/20 06:32 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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PrimalSoup said: I love these bullshit threads. 
I love that you said what I was thinking
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InfiniteDreams said: It is documented:
The term "trip" was first coined by US Army scientists during the 50s when they were experimenting with LSD.
That's true and is from books like Acid Dreams, although it was coined during the Szara and Mankse DMT experiments, which Szara only chose because he couldn't get LSD to test. Mankse is known for first synthesizing it.
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Re: Why is it called tripping? [Re: footpath]
#26537191 - 03/15/20 06:39 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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footpath said: Nah, it comes from tryptophan which comes from trypsin which is a protein named after the Greek word for rubbing/to rub, tribein, because they found it by rubbing a pancreas with glycerin.
We really are standing on the shoulders of giants, who would ever have thought to do that?
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Re: Why is it called tripping? [Re: Kyngwhatt]
#26537203 - 03/15/20 06:44 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Kyngwhatt said:
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footpath said: Nah, it comes from tryptophan which comes from trypsin which is a protein named after the Greek word for rubbing/to rub, tribein, because they found it by rubbing a pancreas with glycerin.
We really are standing on the shoulders of giants, who would ever have thought to do that?
I bet they were high as fuck when they thought that plan up.
Probably spent months on end of eating shrooms, smoking weed and rubbing random shit together trying to discover better drugs.
Thank you science!
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