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Patlal
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Harvey Weinstein has been senteced to 23 years in prison for rape and sexual assault.
#26528836 - 03/11/20 09:49 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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That pretty much means that he's gonna die behind bars.
#metoo win.
Do you guys think it's a fair sentence? To short? Too long?
What are your thoughts on this?
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Re: Harvey Weinstein has been senteced to 23 years in prison for rape and sexual assault. [Re: Patlal]
#26528839 - 03/11/20 09:51 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quite the lifestyle change. Is he going to be in San Quentin?
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Re: Harvey Weinstein has been senteced to 23 years in prison for rape and sexual assault. [Re: Patlal]
#26528844 - 03/11/20 09:54 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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too short, too rich
hope he's at least not going to rich people prison put him in the sort where Lifers can get at him
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Re: Harvey Weinstein has been senteced to 23 years in prison for rape and sexual assault. [Re: Tantrika] 1
#26528856 - 03/11/20 10:02 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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also, there is a frustration in the back of my mind knowing that while he fortunately sees punishment for his crimes this was a man with degrees of power such that he had professional assistants scheduling and coordinating his rapes he wasn't "just" isolating young actresses -- he was having people handle all the logistics so that he could be isolated with them then putting pressure on them to keep quiet afterwards people helped him in what he did
and his enablers will prolly at most see a dip in their work as people are hesitant to work with people who worked for him
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Re: Harvey Weinstein has been senteced to 23 years in prison for rape and sexual assault. [Re: Tantrika] 1
#26528858 - 03/11/20 10:03 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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It’s multiple violent crimes, so he should be in max security prison, not the MD wing of a white-collar jail.
They should leave him at Rikers.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein has been senteced to 23 years in prison for rape and sexual assault. [Re: feldman114]
#26528867 - 03/11/20 10:08 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't think he'll last five years.
Dude hasn't been looking too good lately.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein has been senteced to 23 years in prison for rape and sexual assault. [Re: BooShow] 2
#26528870 - 03/11/20 10:09 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I’m sure he’s healthier than he appears, even if he is sick. Cosby tried the health shit too, and he looks way worse.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein has been senteced to 23 years in prison for rape and sexual assault. [Re: feldman114] 1
#26528875 - 03/11/20 10:11 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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"go easy with my sentencing, I'm just a suffering old man"
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Re: Harvey Weinstein has been senteced to 23 years in prison for rape and sexual assault. [Re: Patlal] 2
#26528885 - 03/11/20 10:18 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Too short. He's trying to look feeble. Fuck that predator fuck-faced shit-ass person! He'll be pampered in prison.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein has been senteced to 23 years in prison for rape and sexual assault. [Re: feldman114]
#26528896 - 03/11/20 10:25 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Tantrika said: "go easy with my sentencing, I'm just a suffering old man"
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feldman114 said: I’m sure he’s healthier than he appears, even if he is sick. Cosby tried the health shit too, and he looks way worse.
I have no doubt they're playing it a bit, but I also think being that old and dealing with that kind of stress can't be good for the heart or mind. Although, I did just read an article saying he was taken to the hospital for chest pains and he didn't have his walker . . .
You're probably right, actually haha but seriously, fuck that guy. Bastard'll die alone behind bars, as it should be.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein has been senteced to 23 years in prison for rape and sexual assault. [Re: tyrannicalrex] 1
#26528901 - 03/11/20 10:26 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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He actually pulled the louis CK but without consent
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Re: Harvey Weinstein has been senteced to 23 years in prison for rape and sexual assault. [Re: feldman114] 2
#26528936 - 03/11/20 10:46 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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feldman114 said: I’m sure he’s healthier than he appears, even if he is sick. Cosby tried the health shit too, and he looks way worse.
No doubt. Reap what you sow fuckface, I bet once the reality sets in though he may have problems with his ticker.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein has been senteced to 23 years in prison for rape and sexual assault. [Re: tyrannicalrex] 1
#26528950 - 03/11/20 10:56 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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feldman114 said: I’m sure he’s healthier than he appears
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tyrannicalrex said: Too short. He's trying to look feeble.
Yep. It was almost assuredly strategy.
But anyway, regarding the sentence -- good for him. He earned it.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein has been senteced to 23 years in prison for rape and sexual assault. [Re: Niffla]
#26528968 - 03/11/20 11:05 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have seen and taken an older person to court for something, after I picked him up and saw that shit, it was over. Fucking freak!
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Patlal
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Re: Harvey Weinstein has been senteced to 23 years in prison for rape and sexual assault. [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#26528999 - 03/11/20 11:30 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Wht's fucked up is that Weinstein has 5 chlidren. All daughters...
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Re: Harvey Weinstein has been senteced to 23 years in prison for rape and sexual assault. [Re: Patlal]
#26529002 - 03/11/20 11:31 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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OMG! I feel really bad for them. And why the fuck does a guy like that have daughters? The universe is weird.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein has been senteced to 23 years in prison for rape and sexual assault. [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#26529052 - 03/11/20 12:08 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Chop off his cock!!!
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Re: Harvey Weinstein has been senteced to 23 years in prison for rape and sexual assault. [Re: Dilsnique]
#26529069 - 03/11/20 12:20 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Let’s hope he dies in there. 😇
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Re: Harvey Weinstein has been senteced to 23 years in prison for rape and sexual assault. [Re: SARAtonin]
#26529084 - 03/11/20 12:30 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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He should at least hold some sort of value to society by being a test subject for covid19...
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Re: Harvey Weinstein has been senteced to 23 years in prison for rape and sexual assault. [Re: spirit_shadow]
#26529094 - 03/11/20 12:37 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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spirit_shadow said: He should at least hold some sort of value to society by being a test subject for covid19...
Yessss
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Re: Harvey Weinstein has been senteced to 23 years in prison for rape and sexual assault. [Re: Niffla]
#26529169 - 03/11/20 01:26 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Had me seriously for a moment there. Then I realised Weinstein is another Epstein type character, not the same one.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein has been senteced to 23 years in prison for rape and sexual assault. [Re: Patlal]
#26529260 - 03/11/20 02:30 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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If he were black, he'd have gotten far more time.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein has been senteced to 23 years in prison for rape and sexual assault. [Re: Enlil]
#26529273 - 03/11/20 02:42 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Enlil said: If he were black, he'd have gotten far more time.
Like Bill Cosby?
Money is blind to colour. If the Weinstein was a poor black guy he would have got significantly more though. Any poor person would have.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein has been senteced to 23 years in prison for rape and sexual assault. [Re: Northerner]
#26529281 - 03/11/20 02:47 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah, like Bill Cosby. They sentenced Cosby way above the guidelines and right up to the edge of the maximum.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein has been senteced to 23 years in prison for rape and sexual assault. [Re: Enlil]
#26529291 - 03/11/20 02:51 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Didn’t he get 3-10 years for like 60 rapes?
Oh I guess most are past the statute of limitations?
Edit: okay, what Weinsein did was waaaay worse. Kinda forgot the details.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein has been senteced to 23 years in prison for rape and sexual assault. [Re: feldman114]
#26529293 - 03/11/20 02:53 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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No. He got 3-10 years for sexual assault. He wasn't convicted of rape, and all of his convictions were merged. The maximum he could have gotten was 10 years. The guideline sentence was 22-36 months.
Mr. Weinstein was convicted of rape.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein has been senteced to 23 years in prison for rape and sexual assault. [Re: Enlil]
#26529305 - 03/11/20 02:59 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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What would the maximum have been if the convictions were not merged? And why were they merged?
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Re: Harvey Weinstein has been senteced to 23 years in prison for rape and sexual assault. [Re: psi]
#26529312 - 03/11/20 03:02 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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They could have been consecutive 10 year max sentences. Merging occurs when the convictions all arise out of the same conduct. For instance, If you shoot someone in the face and they die, you've committed assault, assault with a deadly weapon, attempted murder, and murder, among other things. If you're convicted of murder, the rest of the charges merge with that murder...you don't get a separate conviction/sentence for each one.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein has been senteced to 23 years in prison for rape and sexual assault. [Re: Enlil]
#26529323 - 03/11/20 03:09 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I guess it's all kind of semantics anyway as he's probably going to die in prison.
But you're spot on that the charges should not have been merged. That's an insane miscarriage of justice.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein has been senteced to 23 years in prison for rape and sexual assault. [Re: Enlil]
#26529324 - 03/11/20 03:09 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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So in this case was the merging automatic like in your murder example (i.e. it was not a discretionary call and there was never an option not to merge?)
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Re: Harvey Weinstein has been senteced to 23 years in prison for rape and sexual assault. [Re: psi]
#26529329 - 03/11/20 03:11 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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In the Cosby case, the judge really didn't have a choice. If they weren't merged, it would have been overturned on appeal for sure.
If I hit you in the face, then leave and come back later to hit you again, those are two separate acts, and a judge has the discretion to run consecutive or concurrent.
If I hit you 10 times during a fight, however, that's 10 different batteries, but they really have to run concurrently.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein has been senteced to 23 years in prison for rape and sexual assault. [Re: Northerner]
#26529331 - 03/11/20 03:11 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Northerner said: I guess it's all kind of semantics anyway as he's probably going to die in prison.
But you're spot on that the charges should not have been merged. That's an insane miscarriage of justice.
The guy's already 67. 23 years in jail, he'd get out at 90. No way he makes it that long.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein has been senteced to 23 years in prison for rape and sexual assault. [Re: psi]
#26529334 - 03/11/20 03:12 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Safe to say it was unavoidable since prosecutors initially agreed to it and asked for 10 years.
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Bill Cosby had potentially faced up to 30 years in prison, but he now faces a maximum of 10 years after prosecutors and defense attorneys agreed to merge the three counts of his conviction into one for sentencing purposes.
Prosecutors asked a judge on Monday to sentence Cosby to five to 10 years in prison for sexually assaulting Andrea Constand, saying he had shown “no remorse” for his actions.
https://whnt.com/news/bill-cosby-will-find-out-his-sentence-this-week-on-3-indecent-assault-charges/amp/
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