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Paranoid Throwing away Bulk Sub w Fruits
    #26489311 - 02/17/20 01:36 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

So as the title states.. had a sense that I needed to throw out my subs to get rid of anything illegal in my residence. The problem is that I'm sure some of those subs were fruiting at the time of placing in trash bag and that my prints are sure to be on the plastic. Was a bit hasty and wanted everything out of my possession ASAP.

The trash bag was mixed in a large dumpster with many other unidentifiable bags of trash.

What is the chance that at the garbage sorting facility that they open said bag and decide turn over the fruiting shrooms, lift prints, and .... you get the point...???


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Re: Paranoid Throwing away Bulk Sub w Fruits [Re: HolyBolete]
    #26489362 - 02/17/20 03:08 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Zero to none. Your not that important. Unless you have some ongoing case or someone has hired a private investigator then your just paranoid.


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Re: Paranoid Throwing away Bulk Sub w Fruits [Re: Bph]
    #26489469 - 02/17/20 05:29 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

You never know, nothing more dangerous than a cop having a slow day.


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Re: Paranoid Throwing away Bulk Sub w Fruits [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #26489769 - 02/17/20 10:42 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Statistically, that's how most shroom grows get busted


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Re: Paranoid Throwing away Bulk Sub w Fruits [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #26490949 - 02/17/20 11:45 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Well this was over a week ago and since the bag has been taken by dump truck, also am in one of the places where it has been decriminalized but not fully legalized. Hopefully the dump truck goes straight to a landfill. Pretty sure processing trash is a crude process that doesn't involve sorting through trash with many eyes. Have since removed any sign of anything bad from my possession so a search would yeild nothing and I would prob argue in court that finger prints are not enough legally to tie me to a random trash bag. Hopefully it doesn't come down to that.


Edited by HolyBolete (02/17/20 11:51 PM)


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Re: Paranoid Throwing away Bulk Sub w Fruits [Re: HolyBolete]
    #26491243 - 02/18/20 06:50 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Don't take this the wrong way, but you're a fucking idiot


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Re: Paranoid Throwing away Bulk Sub w Fruits [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #26491259 - 02/18/20 07:03 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

:whathesaid:

You are worrying yourself to death man.


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Re: Paranoid Throwing away Bulk Sub w Fruits [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #26491735 - 02/18/20 01:07 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Anonymous #2 said:
Statistically, that's how most shroom grows get busted




:lolwut:

Ok buddy


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Re: Paranoid Throwing away Bulk Sub w Fruits [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #26491740 - 02/18/20 01:09 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Obviously (or maybe not) I'm just fuckin with op  :megacrankey:


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Re: Paranoid Throwing away Bulk Sub w Fruits [Re: HolyBolete]
    #26493504 - 02/19/20 02:22 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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HolyBolete said:
....had a sense that I needed to throw out ....




As no one online here really knows, what this ("had a sense") means, or why you felt this way, or if your neighbors are nosey... (or if sales were ever involved)... etc.

Not much can be said .... off course the more time passes, the less likely any problems are.


Edited by laughingdog (02/19/20 02:23 PM)


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Re: Paranoid Throwing away Bulk Sub w Fruits [Re: laughingdog]
    #26494374 - 02/20/20 03:39 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Fingerprints are bullshit. There's no evidence that they can univocally identify an individual, nor are there currently methods to get a name from a set of prints if that's all you have from the unknown person, even if that person's prints are indexed in a database.

The way prints are used in real life cases is, you start from a set of suspects and get their prints, and then get prints from crime scene. If you get a match with one of those suspects, that's strong evidence against that person.
That scene from police shows where someone lifts a print off a surface, gives it to a computer, and the computer returns a name, is complete fiction. If someone actually did that they'd get a whole lot of false positives, because of the intrinsic limitations of computer vision and clustering algorithms.


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Re: Paranoid Throwing away Bulk Sub w Fruits [Re: InsultingLizard]
    #26494736 - 02/20/20 09:11 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Fingerprint databases are not fiction, and they work as intended. I got no idea what you are talking about dude.


https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/evqk9e/photo-of-fingerprints-used-to-arrest-drug-dealers


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Re: Paranoid Throwing away Bulk Sub w Fruits [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #26495032 - 02/20/20 12:01 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

The main issue was how high of yield I was producing per tub flush which clashed with my initial goal which was to produce small quantities for personal use.

In doing so and seeing friends around me getting into serious legal trouble/busted and being tried in Federal court
for a potential of lifetime sentences....

the risks seemed to be the catalyst to make a quick hasty change to remove all grow related tubs and incriminating equipment.

In my view, Choosing the quick and easy way to dispose was the only accessible option at the time. Obviously composting in a random forest or garden would have been a better options due to passing fewer eyes.

You live, learn, make mistakes, and evolve.. this situation taking an unnecessary risk wrongfully letting the paranoia have a say.


Edited by HolyBolete (02/20/20 05:49 PM)


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Re: Paranoid Throwing away Bulk Sub w Fruits [Re: HolyBolete]
    #26495085 - 02/20/20 12:26 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I think most household garbage goes to a landfill and gets fucking shredded and buried in mountains of other trash and dirt.:heavymetal:


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Re: Paranoid Throwing away Bulk Sub w Fruits [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #26496050 - 02/20/20 08:45 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Did you actually read the article?
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The photo was sent to the police’s β€œscientific support unit,” which uploaded the image into its image database. However since only parts of two fingers were visible in the photo, it didn’t find a match with other fingerprint records in the database. [...] Once they had apprehended the drug dealer the pieces of the fingerprints in the photo could be matched with the full fingerprint of the dealer.



The query "I have these partial prints, tell me who they belong to" returned no results. It was only after they tracked the dealer by means other than the fingerprints on the picture that they were able to compare a single set of prints (the ones in the photo) to a single set of prints (the ones on the suspect's hands), which confirmed that the hand in the photo belonged to the person they had in custody.

Like I said, even if you had the entire population's fingerprints in a database you could not know who put prints on a random item unless you had some other way to narrow the search down. It simply doesn't work. A fingerprint search is basically a similarity comparison. You have two images and you want to know how similar they are, and if their similarity is greater than some arbitrary value k (usually determined empirically), they are considered a match. That means that necessarily you're going to get false positives (prints are incorrectly linked to a person) and false negatives (prints are not linked to a person even though they do belong to that person and that person is in the database). All computer vision algorithms are subject to these kinds of problems.


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Re: Paranoid Throwing away Bulk Sub w Fruits [Re: InsultingLizard]
    #26501378 - 02/24/20 11:56 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

You're fucked. Run away while you still can.


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Re: Paranoid Throwing away Bulk Sub w Fruits [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #26523734 - 03/08/20 10:59 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)


If you get a chance to watch this episode it's pretty damn interesting.


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Re: Paranoid Throwing away Bulk Sub w Fruits [Re: HolyBolete]
    #26528502 - 03/11/20 04:52 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

HolyBolete said:
So as the title states.. had a sense that I needed to throw out my subs to get rid of anything illegal in my residence. The problem is that I'm sure some of those subs were fruiting at the time of placing in trash bag and that my prints are sure to be on the plastic. Was a bit hasty and wanted everything out of my possession ASAP.

The trash bag was mixed in a large dumpster with many other unidentifiable bags of trash.

What is the chance that at the garbage sorting facility that they open said bag and decide turn over the fruiting shrooms, lift prints, and .... you get the point...???



Zero. 9/10 times they don't even find bodies that get dumped in the trash


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Re: Paranoid Throwing away Bulk Sub w Fruits [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26528560 - 03/11/20 06:18 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I just put mine in a garbage bag without any other garbage and throw in a random dumpster (which i think the OP said he did) The only thing i worry bout is the drive to the dumpster.. after that i don't even think bout it. I burried my first subs. But my neighbors know i despise yard work and that seemed more suspicious.


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Re: Paranoid Throwing away Bulk Sub w Fruits [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26528574 - 03/11/20 06:33 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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bodhisatta said:9/10 times they don't even find bodies that get dumped in the trash




Exactly...they never have found any of the bodies I've dumped in the trash
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