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Is testing of casing Ph required? Best way to go about it without testing? I have Ph/EC/water meter somewhere but no idea where.
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Looking good bud
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: Guerrilla]
#27307467 - 05/13/21 07:54 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Guerrilla said: Is testing of casing Ph required? Best way to go about it without testing? I have Ph/EC/water meter somewhere but no idea where.
Yes and No. Until you get a feel for it I would say test it. I do 10 qts peat, 10 qts verm, 2.5 cups gypsum and .75ish lime and I'm in the high 8s every time but it took a minute to figure that out. Most hardware stores have those cheap prong testers. Just clean the prongs with some super fine sand paper or steel wool for them to work properly.
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: Guerrilla] 1
#27307478 - 05/13/21 08:13 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Guerrilla said: Is testing of casing Ph required? Best way to go about it without testing? I have Ph/EC/water meter somewhere but no idea where.
just following a recipe is fine but it can start to get off if the peat is too packed or too loose. thats why I test. pay attention to the smell once its properly PH'd and then you can pretty much use your nose to tell if it needs more lime or if youve added too much
hell yeah, earnie! lookin good. for an even flush clones are best. if thats MS its likely different strains that will come in at different times. it looks like your gonna have some good candidates to clone soon. I would definitely not pass up that opportunity
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: TedsDead]
#27307588 - 05/13/21 10:25 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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hell yeah, earnie! lookin good. for an even flush clones are best. if thats MS its likely different strains that will come in at different times. it looks like your gonna have some good candidates to clone soon. I would definitely not pass up that opportunity
It’s not an MSS grow. It’s actually from a biopsied agar dish that I dropped into an LC. I’m going to guess if I plucked out two biopsies side-by-side from an agora – the chances are it would be an isolated culture seeing they came from the same sector of that culture. However I already have some clone cultures growing on some agar as we speak. Thanks so much for the encouragement and the advice. I’ll take all I can get especially coming from guys like you who know what they’re doing. Peace love and mycelium Brutha.
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I grow clones over isos any day. I see further success in your future
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: TedsDead]
#27307809 - 05/14/21 04:16 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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TedsDead said: I grow clones over isos any day. I see further success in your future
That just screams.....
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: TedsDead]
#27307967 - 05/14/21 07:29 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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TedsDead said: I grow clones over isos any day. I see further success in your future
Once again Ted. Thank you for the encouragement. I have a question for you though…, If you grow out a tissue sample a.k.a. clones,isn’t that pretty much the same thing as isolating??? Or am I way off here?
@INTHEPIT: Love your comment Brutha! It’s pretty comical with the picture and all.
Let’s hope and pray that Ted‘s prediction is right and that his crystal ball isn’t foggy and showing false profits! However, going by his track record and following his directions to the T...minus testing my casing material for pH levels, he has been spot on and I have had past success and then some!
I hope someday my growing skills get me to the point where I can offer accurate advice to some of the newbies that I come across. After all that is what life is all about… Passing it on, giving away what was freely given to me. I even TRY TO take it a step further. Every morning I pray to my creator and ask him to help me to be of maximum service to him and all around me…, People and all living organisms, even the ones I dislike. That’s the hard part. Lol.
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With mushrooms even clones contain a bunch of genetic strains. So grabbing a tissue biopsy will narrow things down a bunch but there’s still going to be decent diversity.
One of my first clone experiments was PE and I ran shoeboxes from the tissue plate, then t2 and t3 and each one got more uniform, t3 being the one in my signature.
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: A.k.a]
#27308458 - 05/14/21 02:02 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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growing a clone just gives you a glimpse at the potential for the culture whereas you can spend alot of time isolating myc that looks pretty on a plate but fruits like shit which is often the case. IMO/E its a way faster route to a good culture if you grow 8 ms tubs and look for the best clone candidates thanit is to grow 8 tubs of different isos
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: TedsDead] 3
#27309189 - 05/15/21 12:40 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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thought all these were going to blob out, then suddenly things took a turn for the better! Check out the second pic- upper right side of tub a white PE popped up. What do you guys think? Clone it? Swab it? Both? Anyone else ever seen a white PE pop up?

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I'd definitely clone it.
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: TedsDead]
#27309411 - 05/15/21 06:44 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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TedsDead said: growing a clone just gives you a glimpse at the potential for the culture whereas you can spend alot of time isolating myc that looks pretty on a plate but fruits like shit which is often the case. IMO/E its a way faster route to a good culture if you grow 8 ms tubs and look for the best clone candidates thanit is to grow 8 tubs of different isos
Holy shit did I have a lot of typos in that question. I’m glad you were able to figure it out. I remember I was running out the door to work and I voice dictated that and I did not proofread it… Obviously! Ha ha. Well I guess I was way off. I automatically assumed if you took a tissue sample that it would be an isolated genetic. I had no idea that it would still have diversity within that tissue sample. However now that I think about it it does make sense. Especially now that I’m watching my clone samples grow out on a plate! There is definitely all different types of growth in different sectors of the cultures.
 Here’s a couple of clones I have growing out. I’m glad I checked on them. I wasn’t aware how fast one of them grew out. They were all done on the same day. I thought I’d throw in a pic of my PE tub which only took two casings layers before it tightened up. This way we stay on topic. Haha. Thanks for the schooling felliz! @Ted & AKA
PS:FIXED THE TYPE O’s SO FUTURE READERS DONT HAVE TO GUESS.
I don’t know why I can never get wall-to-wall canopies. I have only had one 64 quart tub do that. It was lizard kings. I mean I’m not complaining because I’m new at it and it usually covers 75% of the substrate but it would be nice to get full canopies. I think maybe I fuck with my substrate too much. Between misting and fanning i’m always messing with it. Especially with penis envy. I was told they like a lot of FAE and I am under the impression that they require a lot of water once they start growing so I’m always afraid that my substrate is going to dry out so I almost water them like plants. How come some penis envy grow so solid and some can grow almost hollow? Is there something I can do to ensure that they grow solid. Like that 112 g donkey Dick I grew. That one is solid as they come.
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That’s a sick tub but don’t bother with that lighter one. It’s not albino or anything, prob just from being next to the air hole.
I’d absolutely keep that culture if the potency is there though.
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: A.k.a]
#27309640 - 05/15/21 09:49 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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awwww man! I was tripping then. It is right next to the air hole =D Ill clone it anyway just for fun!
Its PE so I cannot imagine there would be any lack of potency
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: fahtster]
#27309781 - 05/15/21 12:12 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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sick tubs lovepotion! I had an almost albino looking PE pheno before and a more normal one
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: TedsDead]
#27310294 - 05/15/21 07:39 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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When you're testing clones Ted do you save the original T0 or T1 plate and then once you find a winner do you go back and take from those plates? Or do you transfer to like T3 or so and then save that plate?
I know there must be no hard and fast rule to how many transfers you can take from a clone before you lose some of the original genetic potential of that fruit but I never how know how many transfers is too many or if I'm already screwing myself if my clone plates are already sectoring and I'm transferring from those sectors if that makes sense. Is this not really a concern for you usually until like much deeper into transfers?
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: Lenz]
#27310475 - 05/15/21 10:07 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I always save the original tissue culture plate then makes slants and work plates from it once its a confirmed winner
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: fahtster]
#27311025 - 05/16/21 10:39 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Seriously, coming from you Fahtster brother that is a huge boost 
I love growing PE now mostly due to the extended harvest window. That lighter Pheno looks exactly like the one I pulled yesterday. Similar size and shape too. Looks like a long lost twin!
Also, good to hear how you work plates and do transfers Ted. That is still something I consistently mess up, especially when taking 10+ clones at a time. Hard to keep track of everything at that point.
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