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I’ve always kept it nice and airy/fluffy (but leveled off). I’ve never pressed it down at all. I’m trying pushing down a bit with top layers atm so if you do press down on it, please reply back how it went. The 1” total peat casing is without pressing (with me anyhow) so I’d think if you press down on it, that depth would be less.
My instincts are to keep it airy for a peat casing. Maybe others can chime in with their thoughts
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: fahtster]
#27233489 - 03/02/21 10:55 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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fahtster said: I’ve always kept it nice and airy/fluffy (but leveled off). I’ve never pressed it down at all. I’m trying pushing down a bit with top layers atm so if you do press down on it, please reply back how it went. The 1” total peat casing is without pressing (with me anyhow) so I’d think if you press down on it, that depth would be less.
My instincts are to keep it airy for a peat casing. Maybe others can chime in with their thoughts
Faht
I have really good results pressing down my top layer once my sub is mixed well. I think this will be a good opportunity for an experiment or 9. I just inspected my spawn and a few of them seem very slightly bacterial so I'll have quite a few individual shoeboxes to compare side my side.
I'm going to run: (In 6qt shoeboxes, dubtubbed)
1) Gently pressing and leveling the casing (In honor of Fahster) 2) Keeping the casing light/fluffy/airy 3) Only casing once 4) Top layer only (no casing) 5) No top layer and following Teds TEK 6) Top layer and following Teds TEK
Any other experiments you'd like to see? I will likely be spawning in two days
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Have u ever made a pizza? Sprinkle it like you sprinkle cheese on a pizza. If your having any trouble you can try putting on "sprinkle me" by E40
You dont want to press it down. U wanna keep it fluffy for air exchange and evaporation
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: TedsDead]
#27233583 - 03/02/21 12:09 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Making pizzas is one thing I actually have plenty of experience with! I guess there really isn't much reason to experiment. It seems you've run the trial and error and this thread speaks for itself. I'll run these shoeboxes per the TEK (I'll do one for Faht, though) to increase my chances of a decent yield.
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Just got my 9 quarts of PE spawned. I'm playin a risky game but I got busy/lazy and elected to go without a liner. Hopefully I don't regret it too much. Anyway, thanks for the help so far and stay tuned for some more noob questions.
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I'm hoping my impulse sealer gets here in time so I can add more casing to the tubs.
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: zMan]
#27240326 - 03/06/21 11:07 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Wait, why do you need a sealer to make casing?
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: TedsDead]
#27240398 - 03/06/21 11:45 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm going to use my sous vide and make a giant bag that I can sit in some 150F degree water for a while.
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: zMan]
#27240420 - 03/06/21 11:58 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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ziptie the top or put a clip on it. It doesnt have to be entirely submerged. Just dont let any water get in the bag
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: zMan]
#27240425 - 03/06/21 12:01 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quick question: I'll be using Jiffy Mix (assuming I find a store with it in stock) for my casing. Since I'll be pasteurizing it, how concerned should I be about sanitation while casing? Should I be wearing gloves with iso? Should I case in my SAB? Or am I just way over thinking this step?
I just spawned my shoeboxes last night so I'm already getting excited. Thanks again for all the help!
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Same as when u spawn. Open air is fine. Gloves arent necessary but it never hurts to wash your hands. I never whear gloves unless im doing sterile work
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I say use gloves.. some will say they just use their hands but how hard is it to put on gloves? You don’t have to case in your SAB... it’s going to be in open air anyway. I’m excited for you 
^^^ see. you’ll be fine either way
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: fahtster]
#27240449 - 03/06/21 12:12 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Excellent point about the SAB. I'll just glove up and go about my business as if I were spawning. Thanks again for the help and the quick responses.
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Going to recase these tonight and give em more FAE. One thing I'm not clear on is how much I should be patching after the 2nd casing is applied. The point of patching is to get the entire surface to colonize/pin at similar times right?
So in the OP, when you say you case up until it becomes noticeable that the myc is thickening up between the casing, does that mean that after the 2nd casing you keep patching everywhere the myc pokes through until it gets to that point where it's thickening evenly between the casing particles?
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: Lenz]
#27240608 - 03/06/21 03:08 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Correct!
Hehe, i like to be able to feel that the consistency of the casing is where I want it. It just doesnt feel right when I wear gloves
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: TedsDead]
#27240632 - 03/06/21 03:26 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Obviously when dealing with anything penis related you should be ungloved.
Oven or spawn bag in sous vida/instant pot works perfectly for pasteurization. I just fold the top of the bag over the edge of the pot and put the lid on a little crooked.
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: A.k.a]
#27240636 - 03/06/21 03:28 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: TedsDead]
#27240794 - 03/06/21 06:06 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Impulse sealer has arrived.
I'm going to use jiffy mix but I'll still check ph.
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: zMan]
#27242972 - 03/08/21 09:49 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've got mycelium starting to poke through my pseudo-casing/top layer (.25-.5") so I'm not far from casing it and have a couple questions:
Should I pasteurize and let the bag rest for a few days to build up the beneficial microbe colonies or can I case it the same day I pasteurize?
the only reason I ask is because I know for Pans (following JOC and JCM teks) they recommend pasteurizing and letting the casing rest for 4 or 5 days. But, thats a completely different beast and they're using manure not jiffy/peat.
As always, thanks for all your help! Also, I'm getting my 6500k lights rigged up today so I'm getting REALLY excited for this batch of shoeboxes
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The jiffy casing I tested was 5-6. I limed it to 8-8.5. I put a big old casing on a new tub and left over I used to patch 2 tubs. 2 other ones came in really even so I left those and see if there's a difference in how they flush.
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