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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: Luminous7]
#27272367 - 03/27/21 09:31 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well even though I was too late I’m casing my PEs. The second flush is coming in. Could be a lot better but at least they’re not testicles! However there are some areas in this tub where there are clusters of pins and they are tightly packed together. I am praying that they continue growing. Is there anything I can do to make sure that they continue. If you zoom in on the pics you can see them.

The first picture is the whole tub of course. The second and third picture are where the tightly packed clusters of pins are. The last picture is a shoebox. It was spawn at the same time as the rest of those pictures. However when I cased this one it worked and I did not get any testicles. Just a very late first flush and a very uneven pinset. All I know is I’m glad that I know now then I have to case. I have two more PE tubs in the making as we speak that got cased at the appropriate time. Hopefully I can get an even pinset at this time. Thank you for the education.
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Nice, Ernie! Glad to see you finally got some cock to go with your balls I'm starting to see knots but I'm suspecting they're going to be blobs, despite having cased twice at what I thought was the appropriate times
Be sure to clone some of those fruits in the clusters and run them next so you can start getting dong canopies
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They’ll probably get nice and big, Ern.. just give it time. Did you rehydrate at all?
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: fahtster]
#27272850 - 03/28/21 09:41 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Only by misting A few times a day. The reason why I didn’t rehydrate by soaking is because it already seem wet. All of my tubs seemed overly wet. Hence why I had string stems. I’m going by weight and the color of the substrate and casing is dark. However it is much harder to tell on the PE tub you’re referring to because of the color of the substrate. It’s GRAY! and I can’t tell how much water is in there by the color like I can with other tubs. Do you understand what I’m saying? I am afraid to flood them and in the same sense, I’m afraid they don’t have enough water. Assuming by the size of the fruits PE produces I’m guessing they require much more water. On my New Guy thread I just posted my lizard king tub it’s ready to be harvested. I think you may have told me that I can cut just the caps off while the rest of the smaller ones and premature fruits continue growing. It’s such an uneven flush but it is loaded!  Ergot Ernie.
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if you get blobs forming would it be best to pick them right away and hope new pins form ?
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If you think the PE sub may need more water, you don’t have to float it... just pour little down the sides. It’s called bottom watering. Like a 1/4 cup on each long side, but you’re right it looks plenty hydrated. Only do that if it looks like it needs it.. I’d say don’t even consider it until all those pins get bigger and look like they could use a drink. They may not need it at all.
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: fahtster]
#27273119 - 03/28/21 01:02 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Most of my shoeboxes/minis look like this. I'm expecting da blobs! I turn all my fruits into chocolates though so that's OK.
I'm learning a lot from this attempt
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Most of my shoeboxes/minis look like this. I'm expecting da blobs! I turn all my fruits into chocolates though so that's OK.
I'm learning a lot from this attempt
Yes me too. Now why wouldn’t you case them again if you don’t believe this surface is right yet if you think you’re going to fruit testicles? It’s one of the reasons why I’m checking out this thread again. I have a couple of PE tubs running. The first one that started me in on this thread is on its second flush and doing well. However these tubs I have been casing from the beginning and I’m still not sure when to stop so I’m gonna post a photo because I think it’s there… Or maybe not. There’s definitely a big difference in the surface conditions when it “tightens up“ with mycelium and the normal colonizing mycelium. Yours looks like it used to be cased again but will leave that up to the pros. Looking forward to seeing your fruit. I just harvested a nice canopy of Lizard Kings last night. Over a pound wet.
 Hey Ted I was hoping you could have a look at this tub and let me know what you think. Or anybody for that matter. It’s definitely tightened up in most areas. Thank you I appreciate the help. ErnieErgot
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That looks just about right to me. Casings not super grown in and lots of knots.
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: A.k.a]
#27274224 - 03/29/21 10:16 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Can blobs be cloned?
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yes but probably lead to getting more blobs i would assume
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Learning quite a lot from this as well. Right now I have 6 tubs of PE going, the 2 pictured are the only ones that fully colonized the casing while fruiting along the edges. Those 2 tubs came from the same plate so it's definitely an issue with the culture. Some of the other tubs are fruiting slightly from the edges but didn't completely colonize the casing and have tightened and started knotting nicely.
I think I went wrong in two pretty simple ways: 1. I cut my liner too short in some places and so I couldn't apply the casing very evenly along those edges. 2. I didn't make a strong switch between colonizing and fruiting phases. I ran these in EZ dials and I only had a few of the holes taped up when spawning-- next time I'll tape up all the holes and then open em all up after applying the 2nd casing. I actually even keep the lid flipped most of the day and mist a lot which I feel has helped the pinset quite a bit.
All in all, despite the full colonization of the casing, I think yield won't be too bad and could still get a nice 2nd flush. Looking forward to start testing clones, have 10 on plates already and I'm planning to take at least 10 more. Should have some nice tubs to post pretty soon as well.
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: Lenz]
#27274323 - 03/29/21 11:17 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah, thats looking pretty perfect earnie.
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: insutama]
#27274400 - 03/29/21 12:39 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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excellent.
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Most of my shoeboxes/minis look like this. I'm expecting da blobs! I turn all my fruits into chocolates though so that's OK.
I'm learning a lot from this attempt
Yes me too. Now why wouldn’t you case them again if you don’t believe this surface is right yet if you think you’re going to fruit testicles? It’s one of the reasons why I’m checking out this thread again. I have a couple of PE tubs running. The first one that started me in on this thread is on its second flush and doing well. However these tubs I have been casing from the beginning and I’m still not sure when to stop so I’m gonna post a photo because I think it’s there… Or maybe not. There’s definitely a big difference in the surface conditions when it “tightens up“ with mycelium and the normal colonizing mycelium. Yours looks like it used to be cased again but will leave that up to the pros. Looking forward to seeing your fruit. I just harvested a nice canopy of Lizard Kings last night. Over a pound wet.
 Hey Ted I was hoping you could have a look at this tub and let me know what you think. Or anybody for that matter. It’s definitely tightened up in most areas. Thank you I appreciate the help. ErnieErgot
You think mine needs another casing? with blobs and knots present? I'm not gonna lie, these tubs are kinda pissin me off with all the side pins (completely my fault). It's already got 2 casings and a top layer at spawn. I think I'm just going to let em ride and be better prepared for next time
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Recently I cloned an agar blob pin and at fruiting all I had was blobs covering everything, it looked like the sub had cancer so yeah, they can be cloned, you'll get a blobfest
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: eLeSDenes]
#27275615 - 03/30/21 10:48 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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I’ve got high expectations for this one.

Been a long time since I ran PE.
I have another one that I think I recased a little late. There’s some pins on the edge that look like they’re based on the first layer of casing and now they’re pushing up big areas of the casing above them.
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: A.k.a]
#27275773 - 03/30/21 01:12 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nice lookin tub AKA I'm sure it'll turn out really nicely. Not that I'd expect anything different from you lol
A couple of my shoeboxes are starting to show signs of normal pins, but the majority are pushing nothing but blobs. I pulled the subs out of 4 shoeboxes to pull the side blobs off because they were lifting the sub up and bowing the sides of my shoeboxes out. 161 grams of blobs harvested and being dried right now.
I'm just hoping for a couple fruits to clone and get spores from so I can apply all the lessons I've learned on this attempt to some redemption shoeboxes lol
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Thats why liners are nice. The sides dont have a casing and tend to blob. Once one forms it makes air pockets and all the sudden conditions become right for more to start forming
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: TedsDead]
#27275833 - 03/30/21 01:49 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yep. Lesson learned. I've just never had a variety cause a sub to contract as much as PE has! I'm just running these out and hoping for the best. I'll be better prepared for next time. One of the tubs is looking really promising though so I'm considering this all to be a success either way!
Next time I won't be lazy and skip the damn liners lol
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