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THE COVID-19 VACCINE SMOKING CHALLENGE 5
#26527720 - 03/10/20 04:46 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Listen up guys:
As we all know, there is a disease spreading all over the world that often causes very serious lung ailments, such as antibiotic resistant pneumonia and respiratory failure.
It is completely reasonable to assume that if you catch this disease, and you smoke, that you are much worse off than when you don't smoke.
I mean, smoking with any kind of pneumonia? I don't think so.
THE CHALLENGE:
How about quitting smoking NOW, at the very least staying quit until the COVID-19 vaccine is out?
Just as an extra motivation to QUIT SMOKING.
We know you wanna quit and anre looking for reasons to strengthen your willpower.
Let COVID-19 be the reason for the s4eason.
If you smoke you'll catch it easier, it is more severe, it is more lethal and it lingers longer AND opens you up more to secondary infections with bacteria, just like with the flu or a cold but much much worse since pneumonia is one of the main historic killers of humanity and right now there is no medicine.
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Peter Dixon [pneumonia patient] said:
I have pneumonia right now, unfortunately.
It started with simple coughing then progressed to deep, uncontrollable hacking. Sleep has been basically out of the question these last 3 days because I’d cough every 10 minutes or so and wake myself up.
Two days ago in the evening in the early part of this I tried resisting the impulse to cough because it hurt. I could feel my rib cage rearrange because the coughs were so strong. Because I had been allowing the fluid to build up finally when I couldn’t resist I found I couldn’t get any breath at all! My airway was completely blocked with fluid. Things started to get dim and I felt myself begin to pass out. Luckily I was able to move and that seemed to open things up. Just imagine though trying to draw a deep breath and being surprised and scared for your life at not getting any air at all.
I called Ontario’s Telehealth service and left a message. They were super busy because of coronavirus scare. About 6 hours later they got back to me and after a consultation advised me to go to the ER.
After waiting an uncomfortable 5 hours a nurse practitioner put me on Tylenol for my fever and an IV. My pulse was a sitting 130, a sign that I was hypovolemic. My heart was trying to service my body with insufficient fluid. Once it had all gone in my pulse went down to a more manageable 100. I had never really understood the requirement of keeping hydrated when sick. I do now. I was given a 7 day prescription Amoxicillin (penicillin) and told to take more Tylenol should my fever come back, and to return to the ER if I didn’t feel better in a couple of days.
As it is the hacking coughs are definitely less frequent but I still can’t get any sleep.
I’m a non-smoker and not old, but I can definitely see how pneumonia kills people. With what I know now I would have gone to the ER as soon as the hacking became uncontrollable.
Edit several days later: My airways were being swollen shut preventing all attempts to sleep. A visit to an urgent care clinic yielded two puffers to open up my airways. I’m not sleeping normally, the hacking cough is still ever present, but in the last 24 hrs I’ve gotten in 6 hrs sleep divided into 3 portions. Definitely not enjoying this.
This wasnt COVID, just regular pneumonia. This pneumonia stopped with antoibiotics (amoxicillin) but covid's pneumonia is unaffected by it.
What do you say: How about quitting smoking AT LEAST until the vaccine is out or COVID is otherwise subdued?
A Shroomerite who has quit smoking has a better health outlook than one who still smokes, in regular life but cewrtainly when they catch Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) Coronavirus 2, or "SARS-2" or "COVID19" which this disease going round is.
As an EXTRA motivation.
There is something going round that could make smoking kill you THIS YEAR.
EXTRA motivation!
Wanna vape? vape! Wanna chew or cold turkey or a patch on your butt, all fair game -- but quit inhaling smoke and stay at leasrt quit till they got the vaccine for this.
That is as rational as Mr Spock of star trek, who died of COPD 30 years after quitting smoking.
QUIT SMOKING
Escape the Reynolds plantation and dont let the Marlboro man catch you! Lung cancer caught the Marlboro man in the end, remember?
EXTRA MOTIVATION!!
There is something going round that could make smoking kill you THIS YEAR.
Chances are that when the vaccine comes, you'll consider smoking a mistake of the past that you won't fall for again.
THE COVID-19 VACCINE SMOKING CHALLENGE
Anyone up for it?
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Re: THE COVID-19 VACCINE SMOKING CHALLENGE [Re: Asante]
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Re: THE COVID-19 VACCINE SMOKING CHALLENGE [Re: Crazy_Horse] 2
#26527799 - 03/10/20 05:19 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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But all this weed...
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Re: THE COVID-19 VACCINE SMOKING CHALLENGE [Re: Samskara92]
#26527801 - 03/10/20 05:19 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Samskara92 said: But all this weed...
Edibles.
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Re: THE COVID-19 VACCINE SMOKING CHALLENGE [Re: Asante]
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Re: THE COVID-19 VACCINE SMOKING CHALLENGE [Re: Samskara92]
#26553045 - 03/23/20 12:35 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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An untested vaccine is going to save us for sure lol. I'm sure all those stressed out lab coats have your best interest in mind when trying to meet quotas in unrealistic time frames while maintaining the bottom line for the boss. Quality sciencing going on right now.
Great decisions being made...
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Re: THE COVID-19 VACCINE SMOKING CHALLENGE [Re: Asante]
#26553058 - 03/23/20 12:38 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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My tobacco stocks are getting murdered like old italians out there.
Usually tobacco sales are helped by low gas prices, but if like 10% of the world ends up with reduced lung function it would be bad for cigarette sales.
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For real. I don't smoke cigarettes, but I've been home so I've been smoking weed waaaay too much out of boredom. I can already feel it effecting my lungs more so than usual. I've got weed in the oven decarbing as we speak, and a big jar of coconut oil on stand by. Can't control the pandemic, but this is a choice that's within my grasp, and smoking anything(though, particularly cigarettes) definitely worsens COVID outcomes.
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Re: THE COVID-19 VACCINE SMOKING CHALLENGE [Re: pirate-blues]
#26553099 - 03/23/20 01:08 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Its hard when I'm at home with nothing to do.
I never smoke before or during work because I like to get a better headrush after work and I dont want to smell like a sketch bag. so when I'm working I wont smoke until like 9pm sometimes.
But I'm sitting at home and I'm fighting the urge to smoke right now and its just after 3pm.
Its also rainy and cold so I dont want to go outside.
This is going to be tough. I have some expired dip and snus laying around that I can use when and if I get sick. But in the meantime I just want to smoke.
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Re: THE COVID-19 VACCINE SMOKING CHALLENGE [Re: BANANA.MAN] 4
#26553101 - 03/23/20 01:10 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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If I'm intubated I want one of you to come find me and poke a hole in the tube just big enough to stuff the end of a joint in it
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Re: THE COVID-19 VACCINE SMOKING CHALLENGE [Re: Asante] 1
#26553159 - 03/23/20 01:47 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Just a reminder that it also might be not be a bad time to give up alcohol for a bit as well
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Partiers who order booze for home delivery or gather in groups, especially longtime drinkers, should be wary and consider experts’ precautions. “Clinicians have long observed an association between excessive alcohol consumption and adverse immune-related effects such as susceptibility to pneumonia,” noted a 2015 article, Alcohol and The Immune System, published in Alcohol Research: Current Reviews. “Alcohol disrupts immune pathways in complex and seemingly paradoxical ways.”
Various studies indicate that alcohol use can deliver a body blow: It messes with humans' gastrointestinal system, altering the function of healthy gut microbes linked to immunity. Alcohol can also impair key immune cells in the lungs and damage epithelial cells that line the lungs' surface (where COVID-19 can also attack). ”Often, the alcohol-provoked lung damage goes undetected until a second insult, such as a respiratory infection, leads to more severe lung diseases,” the article noted. “Alcohol consumption does not have to be chronic to have negative health consequences. In fact, research shows that acute binge drinking also affects the immune system.”
https://www.globalhealthnow.org/2020-03/hold-quarantinis-alcohol-and-novel-coronavirus-might-not-mix
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Quote:
Ahab McBathsalts said: My tobacco stocks are getting murdered like old italians out there.
Usually tobacco sales are helped by low gas prices, but if like 10% of the world ends up with reduced lung function it would be bad for cigarette sales.
oh poor you
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Re: THE COVID-19 VACCINE SMOKING CHALLENGE [Re: feevers]
#26553742 - 03/23/20 06:53 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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feevers said: Just a reminder that it also might be not be a bad time to give up alcohol for a bit as well
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Partiers who order booze for home delivery or gather in groups, especially longtime drinkers, should be wary and consider experts’ precautions. “Clinicians have long observed an association between excessive alcohol consumption and adverse immune-related effects such as susceptibility to pneumonia,” noted a 2015 article, Alcohol and The Immune System, published in Alcohol Research: Current Reviews. “Alcohol disrupts immune pathways in complex and seemingly paradoxical ways.”
Various studies indicate that alcohol use can deliver a body blow: It messes with humans' gastrointestinal system, altering the function of healthy gut microbes linked to immunity. Alcohol can also impair key immune cells in the lungs and damage epithelial cells that line the lungs' surface (where COVID-19 can also attack). ”Often, the alcohol-provoked lung damage goes undetected until a second insult, such as a respiratory infection, leads to more severe lung diseases,” the article noted. “Alcohol consumption does not have to be chronic to have negative health consequences. In fact, research shows that acute binge drinking also affects the immune system.”
https://www.globalhealthnow.org/2020-03/hold-quarantinis-alcohol-and-novel-coronavirus-might-not-mix
Damn, and yet liquor stores are being kept open as critical infrastructure.
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#26553777 - 03/23/20 07:08 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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That's probably to help keep the peace but some places have closed stores.
I'm an idiot and I need to quit but panic attacks are awful and I probably can't just walk in and refill my klonipin script right now.
In fact I tried that the last time I tried to kick it and they didn't give it to me then.
I know it's a mental hang up but that doesn't make it magically disappear.
I'd like to use the excuse of quarantine to not go out and buy more smokes when this pack is out but I can't make any promises of wether my brain will try to kill me.
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#26553787 - 03/23/20 07:13 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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34.6% of adults with any mental illness reported current use* of tobacco in 2016 compared to 23.3% of adults with no mental illness.5
Individuals who have mood disorders, psychoses, anxiety disorders, developmental disorders, and substance use disorders are more likely to be addicted to nicotine than those without these disorders. Nicotine dependence has proven to be particularly challenging for individuals suffering from psychiatric disorders, such as schizophrenia.6 Smoking prevalence was highest among those with schizophrenia, at nearly 90%.6
https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/disparities/mental-illness-substance-use/index.htm
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Re: THE COVID-19 VACCINE SMOKING CHALLENGE [Re: InfiniteDreams] 3
#26553839 - 03/23/20 07:32 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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InfiniteDreams said:
Damn, and yet liquor stores are being kept open as critical infrastructure.
There are people who are so addicted to alcohol that withdrawal could bring about DT's and seizures and death.
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/cold-turkey-alcohol-withdrawal-can-cause-serious-health-issues#3
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Re: THE COVID-19 VACCINE SMOKING CHALLENGE [Re: viraldrome] 1
#26560579 - 03/27/20 06:27 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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90 percent smoking among schizzo ?
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#26560597 - 03/27/20 06:39 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I saw a homeless guy pick up a butt off the ground and start smoking it the other day. Pretty sure he was crazy
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viraldrome said: I saw a homeless guy pick up a butt off the ground and start smoking it the other day. Pretty sure he was crazy
I used to do that butt picking, specially in ma past life, to Gather the tobacco for my wood pipe.
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I dont smoke cigs. I smoke weed. Edibles do not work on me
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pacmanbreed said:
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viraldrome said: I saw a homeless guy pick up a butt off the ground and start smoking it the other day. Pretty sure he was crazy
I used to do that butt picking, specially in ma past life, to Gather the tobacco for my wood pipe.
Jealous Mushy gave me a good
 hard spanking during a trip.
Wow I read your trip. That Is insane and I totally agree shrooms aren't for recreational purposes lol
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Re: THE COVID-19 VACCINE SMOKING CHALLENGE [Re: spirit_shadow]
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I used to pick butts too. I know it's gross but at the time I genuinely did not care.
Even now if I see a whole cigarette on the ground I think about smoking it. That's a good pick.
You know you're an addict when...
Not any worse than the carpet resin I smoked that one time tho.
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Re: THE COVID-19 VACCINE SMOKING CHALLENGE [Re: CookieCrumbs]
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thats hard core. The most ive gone so far interms of is dried leaves didn't like the harshness.
@spirit_shadow, was glad for the dropby man . i used to treat em that way specially in the past before that trip, I do get it now why others view them with sacredness(pure intent). Also realized based on that experience, its still forgiving and can adjust for the mind.
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#26561442 - 03/27/20 03:54 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Get humans off the planet.
Edited by calmbumblebee (03/27/20 06:22 PM)
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Re: THE COVID-19 VACCINE SMOKING CHALLENGE [Re: calmbumblebee]
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Sorry my friend and sorry to my body but the government is trying cut my anxiety attack meds that double for ptsd episodes this is forced me to smoke more tobacco than I normally would and gives me no room to move down on my medical marijuana
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Sorry ST that really sucks. But it wouldn't surprise me if benzos are soon in short supply anyway.
Too bad for the folk that genuinely cannot function without it, I guess.
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Re: THE COVID-19 VACCINE SMOKING CHALLENGE [Re: CookieCrumbs]
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Thanks CC  even before this happened I was getting cut down Spin dosage but this is ridiculous, they said it was from the fda . I'm seriously doubting the truth behind that but fore me it's the difference between suffering and not functioning or not
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Hey Asante, I stopped drinking and smoking few weeks ago because of this cheese going around. Instead I bought me some milk thistle and cordyceps supplements for boost.
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Yeah I doubt that too. Most of these things are state or institution restrictions.
Last I heard anyway. I admit I'm not up to date with that info.
I hope they're at least gradually letting you off and not stopping overnight.
I've been browsing forums for chronic illness for a while. Lots of good people just trying to have a life getting cut off from their opiates or benzos when the alternatives don't work or they literally can't use the alternatives (ie doing PT when you can barely move most days) or they simply aren't offered alternatives.
In some time they'll realize their mistake swinging hard against prescription drugs but, like the war on drugs, it's going to cost alot of people everything first. A whole lot of people.
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Re: THE COVID-19 VACCINE SMOKING CHALLENGE [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#26563553 - 03/28/20 03:49 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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https://www.qeios.com/read/article/550
This article shows that current smoking is not a risk factor for COVID-19 and may be protective and it suggests down regulation of ACE2 receptors as a possible explanation.
It uses China's data so keep that in mind but it doesnt relate to the amount of total cases, just the prevalence of current smoking based on the cases that are known.
I dont beleive smoking is a net positive in life when you weigh all the risks and rewards. But Smoking has become so widely regarded as bad in every possible way. and I just knew that the claims I saw about smoking possibly worsening COVID-19 probably werent based on data even if they were correct. Just the widespread demonization of smoking. which again, may not be all bad, But you know what happens when you assume. every once in a while you make an ass out of u and me. and I'm not a betting man but I dont think nicotine will ever be looked at as a potential protective measure during this pandemic and I would put money on that. I'm no doctor so I cant say wheather or not thats reasonable or unreasonable but I suspect thats mostly based on stigma.
my point is that its become ok to instantly claim whatever you want about how horrible smoking is and nobody will really call you on it. Nothing should be treated that way when it comes to medicine especially. Everything you say should have data behind it.
So Asante while I want to quit smoking in general im not going to go cold turkey right now based on conjecture with evidence to the contrary, until I see some real supporting evidence. I know smoking is correlated to higher rates of COPD and other lung disorders that can be risk factors. All I'm saying is dont jump the gun and give medical advice based on the general stigma against smoking.
BTW, Dont smoke. Its bad for you and its addictive.
I didnt mean for that to become a rant. I have just been skeptical for a while about whether or not the acctual risk of smoking with all things considered is really proportionate to the vehement disdain for tobacco and persuasive scare tactics that are so prevelant.
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Re: THE COVID-19 VACCINE SMOKING CHALLENGE [Re: BANANA.MAN]
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It's pretty commonly accepted that smoking decreases the body's ability to fight off pneumonia. I would not take one shaky study on one population relying on chinese data and accurate/honest self-report of a medically stigmatized habit as anything to factor in to the equation of whether to smoke right now or not.
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I mean there's a big difference between smoking and having lung damage from smoking.
Smoking a cigarette or cigar every now and then does not inherently mean you've done any notable damage. Like I think the first major reduction of lung function comes from paralyzing the cilia. And that doesn't happen immediately. Though it does happen if you smoke often enough for long enough.
I read once that some Chinese people think that Shanghai air was worse for you than having half a cigarette a day. Yeah no shit breathing severely polluted air 24/7 is worse than having a 2 minute smoke.
It's weird that people think smoking is the single worst thing you can do to your body. But I guess that means the marketing was effective.
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feevers said: It's pretty commonly accepted that smoking decreases the body's ability to fight off pneumonia. I would not take one shaky study on one population relying on chinese data and accurate/honest self-report of a medically stigmatized habit as anything to factor in to the equation of whether to smoke right now or not.
As I was sating I was already skeptical. this just backs up my skepticism.
yes its chinese data but I dont see why they would lie about the prevelance of current smoking. I see lots of reasons for them to lie but that diesnt instantly raise a red flag for me.
I say alot of controversial stuff on this site that people here strongly disagree with but I havent even mentioned my questioning the orthodox opinion with regard to smoking. Most people in our society cant look at smoking objectively.
Again, dont smoke. its bad and addictive.
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Re: THE COVID-19 VACCINE SMOKING CHALLENGE [Re: Asante]
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