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Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape)
    #26527235 - 03/10/20 12:43 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I do not have an amazingly dialed in environment, sometimes my room rh is in the teens, if it rains like today it's higher but never very high.

Does that matter? Won't the tubs conditions still be well within the desired range through the first flush without maintence if made properly, even in less than perfect conditions?

This is the beauty of a monotub, set and forget, but to test for myself...

I placed two cheapo hygrometers, one in the center of a tub begining to pin and one right beside the tub on the outside.

I reset each unit moments before the picture and will check back each day as the tub flushes.




4qts spawn, 1 brick coir, 2 qts verm and 4qts h2o.

~1qt coir/verm from sub mix used as casing. 2 layers mp tape on bottom one layer on top, 12/12 6500k lights.

please do not bunch up panties for me not using grade A hygrometers, none of us are going to publish our findings so I'm not worried about it.

We will get the first real reading tomorrow


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: filthyknees]
    #26527343 - 03/10/20 01:38 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

:popcorn:

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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: fahtster]
    #26527353 - 03/10/20 01:42 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

that made in China hygrometer just gave your sub corona virus.:lol: jk


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: filthyknees] * 1
    #26527363 - 03/10/20 01:46 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

please do not bunch up panties for me not using grade A hygrometers, none of us are going to publish our findings so I'm not worried about it.




It clearly says Pro right on them. Stop being modest. :rofl:

But seriously this is a really cool idea. Thanks for posting!!!


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: bootedboy]
    #26529087 - 03/11/20 12:31 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: filthyknees]
    #26529100 - 03/11/20 12:45 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

:camping::jah:


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: SFS96] * 2
    #26529156 - 03/11/20 01:18 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: footpath]
    #26534749 - 03/14/20 12:45 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)



Four days from first picture.


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: filthyknees]
    #26534802 - 03/14/20 01:06 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

:highfive::bender:


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: rumfor69]
    #26535450 - 03/14/20 07:59 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Not terrible. Gonna leave it alone into the second flush and see what the rh does inside the tub with still no maintenance.


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: filthyknees]
    #26535560 - 03/14/20 09:10 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Man you’ve got that tub dialed right in the sweet spot.

Perfect spread on temp and humidity over 24 hours.


Lol I thought I was in your thread about the top grains. Once I saw the title that explains the meter in the tub.


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: A.k.a]
    #26536657 - 03/15/20 01:18 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: filthyknees]
    #26536775 - 03/15/20 02:20 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Dude nice flush, what strain?


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: bootedboy]
    #26536848 - 03/15/20 03:05 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Texas orange cap


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: filthyknees]
    #26536853 - 03/15/20 03:10 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Corona shrooms. It’s a new cross. 1 million dollar culture! :rockon:

So you left the sub alone post harvest without adding any additional hydration?


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: eatyualive]
    #26536875 - 03/15/20 03:29 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Correct, no misting. Gonna let it ride into 2nd flush that way for science.

Lot of the substrate still has moisture beads present, rh looking like steady 90s.

I dont know exact date of spawning but it's been about a couple weeks.


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: filthyknees]
    #26542992 - 03/18/20 04:20 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)



Three days post first flush harvest here come the second flush knots and pins.

Still having beads of water on the surface.


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: filthyknees]
    #26543092 - 03/18/20 05:18 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I should imagine it working in nature and it would work indoors as well. Will it produce as good a flush if you don’t rehydrate?


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: eatyualive]
    #26543118 - 03/18/20 05:31 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

That's what we're going to find out.

You see all the threads about should I mist, how much to mist, should I dunk, what should I do and on and on.

Hopefully this thread will serve to show what the monotub teks appeal is: neglect, total set and forget, zero maintenance.

We'll see how it's doing in another two or three days. :strokebeard2:

Maybe I didn't mention but I've misted it's neighbor tubs twice and will give feedback relative to those in the conclusion.


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: filthyknees]
    #26543143 - 03/18/20 05:42 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #26543147 - 03/18/20 05:44 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

When i ran auto setups I never misted between flushes. Think about cow pies. Maybe a light rain rehydrates or a morning dew. Sometimes nothing at all. And you can find fruits on dry ass patties.


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: eatyualive]
    #26546868 - 03/20/20 02:38 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Looked today and it's too sexy not to update, look at those fat pins and those surface conditions.



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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: filthyknees]
    #26546902 - 03/20/20 02:50 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

:rockon:


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: eatyualive]
    #26546930 - 03/20/20 03:01 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

It's looking nice. I'm very anxious to see the comparison to the
misted fanned and what not ones and what the final outcome will be


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: filthyknees]
    #26547063 - 03/20/20 04:17 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Are those nearly mature mushrooms just stragglers from the first flush or were they super fast second flush pins?


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #26547091 - 03/20/20 04:30 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

That’s amazing man, it’s like a perfect tub every space not already filled with stumps is pinned up.

As for surface conditions how much of it do you think is due to the initial coir prep? I’m wondering if the moisture is mostly from the sub or being pulled from the air, which would also require temp swings mimicking natural day and night cycles.

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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: A.k.a]
    #26547126 - 03/20/20 04:48 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

@P9 I don't know if it's technically a first flush or what but I harvested like five or whatever mature there there except those dark capped pins.

@Aka it's definitely from the sub prep, there's no doubt. When the rh is high there's little room for moisture loss into the air.

And on how it will look compaired to the others that got misted: I'd bet $100 no one will be able to tell any difference = what some knew all along, monotubs are set and forget if made properly.

But let's see how this flushes and then we'll see for sure.

My prediction is that dunking and regular mistings are practically a waste of time when the sub is made properly.


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: filthyknees]
    #26547276 - 03/20/20 06:07 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

That's why I stopped a long time ago I never noticed any difference


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: rumfor69]
    #26547282 - 03/20/20 06:09 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

what some knew all along, monotubs are set and forget if made properly.



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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: rumfor69]
    #26547329 - 03/20/20 06:31 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

rumfor69 said:
That's why I stopped a long time ago I never noticed any difference



I gotta make effort to unlearn sometimes :jah:


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: filthyknees]
    #26547384 - 03/20/20 06:57 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

filthyknees said:
Quote:

rumfor69 said:
That's why I stopped a long time ago I never noticed any difference



I gotta make effort to unlearn sometimes :jah:




Don't take me the wrong way I'm sorry. I'm very thankful you did this
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I drove myself bonkers trying to make tubs right and it did
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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: rumfor69]
    #26547531 - 03/20/20 08:08 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

i was expecting to see the shrooms to lift up the hygrometer :laugh:


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: eLeSDenes]
    #26548153 - 03/21/20 06:03 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I'm not mad rumfor.

Still holding out hope eLe


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: filthyknees]
    #26550837 - 03/22/20 11:50 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)




Now for a relative comparison to a tub right beside the one pictured that was misted a couple times heavily when pins developed and after the first flush.



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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: filthyknees]
    #26550910 - 03/22/20 12:43 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Those aerial pics of the two shows there's not much difference between the two.
The one that's been misted almost seems like it has more aborts too
but its a little difficult to tell without my own eyes on it.


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: filthyknees]
    #26550966 - 03/22/20 01:20 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

nicely exicuted:thumbup::mushroom2:


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: filthyknees]
    #26551072 - 03/22/20 02:15 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Nice job!


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: Shroomwomb]
    #26551676 - 03/22/20 07:54 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Thank you. I can't tell the difference between the two either rumfor, they both look fine to me.


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: filthyknees]
    #26551684 - 03/22/20 08:02 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

2020 is the best year! No boil, no mist FTW!


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: eatyualive] * 1
    #26551799 - 03/22/20 09:19 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

It’s funny how as time goes on the most effective techniques are doing nothing at all.

Complete opposite of a lot of threads I read that are like ten years old.


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: eatyualive]
    #26551902 - 03/22/20 09:57 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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2020 is the best year! No boil, no mist FTW!




no boil, no rinse, no soak, no mist, no dunk, no mod, no pasteurise, no pour.
2020 is the year to say no :laugh:


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: eLeSDenes]
    #26552457 - 03/23/20 06:54 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Ha well I'll be using monos for the foreseeable future and I like pour agar but otherwise :thumbup:


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: filthyknees]
    #26552664 - 03/23/20 08:59 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

mono is king. Easier to maintain 50+ monos than a big GH


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: eLeSDenes]
    #26552798 - 03/23/20 10:31 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Nice looking tub filthy. Hey 👋.

And Faht, cronic, and eatu 👋  I couldn’t remember my password or even the email I used and the big wigs wouldn’t break rules for poor MDahmer so I’m back as #2. Gonna maybe throw some grows together this summer. I miss it dearly.


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26552806 - 03/23/20 10:37 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: LotKid]
    #26553510 - 03/23/20 04:57 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Lottie what's up bud

Looks like it's got the second flush coming through before the green takes over, harvested like half that.

Tomorrow last day of updates. The misted relative tub is gonna have a flush pic tomorrow.


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: filthyknees]
    #26553576 - 03/23/20 05:32 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Damn that trich showed up everywhere.


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: A.k.a]
    #26554976 - 03/24/20 11:38 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Sadly it be that way. R&D on genetics ongoing. This culture gets out a 2nd flush and that's all we do anyways so it's been working.

Final harvest before pitch, zoom shot on the surface shows it still has those beads of water.



And this misted refrence tub I though would be flushed today looking like one more day for them, so one final update tomorrow and people can see what difference they see.


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: filthyknees]
    #26555102 - 03/24/20 12:57 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Bringing some simplicity to an all to easy to over-complicate hobby.

It's nice to be able to kinda mentally relax in one area to give greater attention to another, culture work in my situation.

I appreciate the work Filthy! I really like the color on that culture you're running as well, are the pics stylized at all?

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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: Camera93]
    #26555122 - 03/24/20 01:08 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Cheers, stylized I don't know, is that like instagram? There's are just regular pics.


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: filthyknees]
    #26555127 - 03/24/20 01:10 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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There's are just regular pics. Raw uncut




Yeah that's what I was getting at, I personally have adjusted the lighting and shit before for a more artistic picture.
Glad to know they are as beautiful as they are presented to be!


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: Camera93]
    #26555409 - 03/24/20 04:13 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I’ll try to join on my next fresh tubs I spawn.


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: eatyualive]
    #26555528 - 03/24/20 05:16 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: LotKid]
    #26555681 - 03/24/20 06:46 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

@Filthy, you said you use 4 qts of water. I tried making subs with 2, 2.5, 3, and 3 qts of water with good successm but 4qt was a bit too much but went with it anyway on just one tub. How is your field capacity? when you squeeze there is quite a stream right?


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: filthyknees]
    #26555692 - 03/24/20 06:50 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

im all about keeping a close eye on the humidity in my terrarium. I would always keep it off the substrate. hang it from the lid. that way when you can check it, and you wont be contaminating the substrate. even if your not touching it the heat that It gives off is tampering with your micro environment. that's why you have no fruits by your hydrometer. you could always get an analog hydrometer and it wouldn't suck the humidity from the immediate area. that is my constructive criticism and an awesome grow BTW
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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: eLeSDenes]
    #26555861 - 03/24/20 08:11 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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@Filthy, you said you use 4 qts of water. I tried making subs with 2, 2.5, 3, and 3 qts of water with good successm but 4qt was a bit too much but went with it anyway on just one tub. How is your field capacity? when you squeeze there is quite a stream right?




I think it depends on the brand of coir you’re using


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: fahtster]
    #26556021 - 03/24/20 09:38 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

even within same brand will have some variation, I always add verm to my coco to get it just right which to me is just less than a stream. I’ll also say from my own experience that a wetter sub will yield better with some varieties but cause others to do a shitty first flush. I think it all comes back to genetics. My KFA can't handle wet subs and the second flush will be better than the first. But my melmac clone will yield twice as much in one flush in the same amount of time as anything else takes to do 2.

It doesnt always happen but I try to mist before second flush only for surface conditions though not to rehydrate and it isnt always necessary, , as I harvest first flush I pour any condensation in the tub between sub and liner, i guess thats a bottom water but its usually not alot, maybe 50-100ml. Learned that one from Tedsdead


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: eLeSDenes]
    #26556061 - 03/24/20 10:02 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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@Filthy, you said you use 4 qts of water. I tried making subs with 2, 2.5, 3, and 3 qts of water with good successm but 4qt was a bit too much but went with it anyway on just one tub. How is your field capacity? when you squeeze there is quite a stream right?



If there's a stream it's very small. Moist but airy.

are you using a brick and two qts verm too?


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: filthyknees]
    #26556124 - 03/24/20 10:55 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

:popcorn:      I got my tubs in my " lab" and just turning on my FH cranks temps up 10F:facepalm3:

very true aye!  I killed my melmac and maztapec with too wet of subs but my other varieties love it


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: TedsDead]
    #26556774 - 03/25/20 10:20 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Moist but airy... :homerdrool:


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: LotKid]
    #26556874 - 03/25/20 10:56 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I guess there's been a trend of people saying they prep dryer coir, this is how I've prepped coir for the last six years.

I listen to dudes like pasty and eat when they say how they make their substrate.

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How I do coir

Get a 5 gallon bucket fill it with;
1 650 gram brick of pet grade coir (breaking it up beforehand is optional but I prefer to)
3 quarts verm
4.5 quarts boiling water
Put lid on and use it when cool




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coir/verm and water. i didn't even boil the water just heated it up. dumped it in a bucket with a brick of coir. added 3 quarts of verm to one small brick coir and 4.5 quarts water.




Two of the best growers on the boards prep theirs the exact same as each other.

I just use 1 less qt verm and .5 less qts h20 relatively. So it comes out to be the same consistency as theirs as far as I'm concerned and seems to be working very well for them.

Open to ideas but this is my reasoning, I think it's rock solid.


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: filthyknees]
    #26557106 - 03/25/20 01:22 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Last update on relative misted tub 2nd flush. Looks like it may have been a little heavier in it's flush than the total neglect.

Kinda goofed not weighing both flushes for both tubs but the eyeball method does alright. Decide for yourselves, this was mainly about the surface conditions yada yada.



Thanks for following. . . May revisit with flush weights in the future. :peace:


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Re: Monitoring conditions of a monotub (case and fruit at spawn, no misting, mp tape) [Re: filthyknees]
    #26557438 - 03/25/20 04:56 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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@Filthy, you said you use 4 qts of water. I tried making subs with 2, 2.5, 3, and 3 qts of water with good successm but 4qt was a bit too much but went with it anyway on just one tub. How is your field capacity? when you squeeze there is quite a stream right?



If there's a stream it's very small. Moist but airy.

are you using a brick and two qts verm too?




Yeah I am using 2qt verm and 1 brick (650g). 3qt water seems to be the sweet spot. It’s weird how much the variation is between different brands.


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