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First grow, first trip, no effect 1
#26525635 - 03/09/20 02:57 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hello everyone !
So I have been trying to grow mushrooms for some time, this morning after I woke up I noticed that my mushrooms had doubled in size ! I was in a great mood and figured that would be the perfect time for me to take my first trip, so called sick at work and put some music on.
Well, well, I ate 22 gr of fresh golden teachers, nothing happened, I mean absolutely no effect what so ever.
I picked the 2 biggest mushrooms I have, weighted them, 22 gr fresh, which should be between 1.5 to 2 gr of equivalent dried mushrooms. I figured I could make a smoothie, drink half of it at first and eventually drink the second half later depending how it went. I've never taken any psychedelics or anything else before, I didn't know what to expect beside everything I've read about it so wanted to go easy and aimed at 1 gr max at first.
The smoothie was pretty small, 2 mushrooms, half a banana and half an apple, a good amount of honey and water to make it easy to drink. I did not eat anything at all prior to that, drank water but that was it.
So I drank half of the smoothie, hoping for the effects to kick in relatively fast, but after an hour, nothing, drank the other half but still nothing at all but disappointment.
I don't understand what went wrong, is it the mushroom, is it the grow, is it the way I ate them ?
Now I have 3 other cakes with small mushrooms that will grow soon, and I don't know what to expect nor what to do with them.
Are my cakes and mushrooms any good ? Is there something wrong with the mushrooms that I grown ? Should I try again in a couple of days with the other mushrooms I've grown when they're bigger ? I've ordered my syringe from what I assume is a reputable online seller. They shipped me 2 syringes, should I use the second one for another grow or is it bad like the first one I used ?
Cake I took the 2 mushrooms from :

2 mushrooms I ate in a smoothie :

I am really, I mean really, bummed out right now. I thought I would have a great day but it turned out pretty meh. Any advice from you would be welcome, I've planned that for almost 5 months now and I really hope I won't have to wait 2 or 3 more months to order another syringe and start a new grow to finally feel what mushrooms can offer me. I'm so confused, thank you for you help all !
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Re: First grow, first trip, no effect [Re: mattsh] 1
#26525695 - 03/09/20 03:38 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Happened to me my 1st real grow too. Genetics of multiple spore
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Re: First grow, first trip, no effect [Re: Hobbit GDF] 1
#26525734 - 03/09/20 03:57 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Firstly, are you on any medications like SSRI's? These can affect your capacity to trip at times.
Secondly, tolerance with mushrooms builds very quickly. By the time you'd ingested the second half of your smoothie you would have already developed a tolerance from the first half which would have reduced any extra effect.
Next time try taking them all at once.
And you won't have to wait months for spore syringes. You have fresh mushrooms, which means you have both spores and material to make clones. At the very least you can look up some good spore printing teks here and take your own prints to use next time.
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Re: First grow, first trip, no effect [Re: Ignorantape] 1
#26525750 - 03/09/20 04:03 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Eat the whole dose at once next time.
And.... try a different scale, just for grins. That thing looks jank.
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Re: First grow, first trip, no effect [Re: Shr00mEater]
#26525784 - 03/09/20 04:32 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks for your replies guys.
Hobbit GDF, what do you mean by "Genetics of multiple spore" ? What did you do with your first grow ? Did you have a trip with it or did you start another one ?
Ignorantape, no I am not on any medication and never did any drugs, beside long lasting social anxiety I am pretty healthy and exercise regularly.
So it may be coming from the way I drank the smoothie in 2 steps ? But even with half of it I should have had effect no ?
I will look into clones, but if there is something wrong with the mushrooms, won't cloning them will just clone a mushroom that did not have any effect ?
Shr00mEater, yes the scale looks jank, but I just double checked there was definitely more than 20 gr with these 2 mushrooms. I will definitely try to get another one.
Ok so next time I will take everything at once, is the smoothie method ok or should I go another way ?
And should I keep working with the cakes I have for my next try ? Should I use the other syringe for a completely new grow assuming it's the same thing that I just used ? Or should I buy another syringe from another seller and restart all over ?
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Re: First grow, first trip, no effect [Re: mattsh]
#26525922 - 03/09/20 06:14 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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You should look into agar and use the same syringe. Genetics of Multi Spore are a dice roll. With agar you are able to reduce the variety a bit, you also get a good look at it before you put it in jars. Once you get something you like, clone a piece of center tissue from a nice specimen to agar.
And most important, don’t give up on this grow just yet, each cake, and even each mushroom can vary a bit... meaning next cake you eat 22g fresh from might do the trick.
Make sure you chop them up small too. I prefer tea, it seems to hit faster, like within 45mins you will have a firm idea of wether you are tripping or not. It might serve you best to postpone tripping until after harvesting and drying everything. Then, Grind to powder and mix the whole grow together. This will allow for more consistent dosing. Better experimental control. Then, simply start with 2.5g and go up a half gram or so once every couple weeks until you find the right amount. I have grown weak shrooms before, where 6g felt like barely 2g
Research agar while waiting.
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Re: First grow, first trip, no effect [Re: Shr00mEater] 1
#26526005 - 03/09/20 07:12 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I agree that its either genetics or the way you dosed
Everytime I give someone new shrooms I tell them take it all at once and can usually tell when they take it slow or bit by bit.. or try two days in a row and waste most of it haha.. tolerance is a bitch
If u have a few more fruits coming up I'd definitely consider taking a print or two to save the trouble of buying more spores
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Re: First grow, first trip, no effect [Re: Mr Solo Dolo]
#26526108 - 03/09/20 08:24 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have looked into agar and found it very complicated, I went with syringe and cakes because it's the easy way for beginner. I wanted to try to get prints from the mushrooms I have grown but to be honest I want to keep all of that for later, I am more interested in my first trip for now, then work on that after.
Tomorrow or in two days if I have nice fully grown mushrooms I will try 25g of fresh, I am honestly concerned doing anything more than that because I am by myself.
If I eat them fresh I should chop them up, ok but is the smoothie method alright ? Is it bad to blend them ? Because it makes it way easier to eat them.
I have not planned on drying them, are they more potent if they are dried ? What's the upside beside the consistent dosing and storage ?
Is one or two day a long enough wait before trying again or should I wait longer ?
What is more likely, problem with the mushrooms or problem with the way I took them ?
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Re: First grow, first trip, no effect [Re: mattsh]
#26526192 - 03/09/20 09:13 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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u have more cakes, that means u will get more mushrooms. try 30 g wet at once, this should really at least give u any effects, even if ur mushroom genetics didnt give the babys a lot of psilocybin....
u can do pre poured agar in small jars, its not complicated... only need 3 ingredients: water, agar agar and malt extract or some other nutrient. try it! i was thinking its complicated for a long time too, but its really funny and more scientific with agar!
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Re: First grow, first trip, no effect [Re: judenfisch]
#26526202 - 03/09/20 09:21 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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It really is not that tough. It's simple and addictive. If you want to trip then put some work into having a grate trip ya know. Why grow schwag when you can grow dank. Its worth the effort. It's like making jello or something.
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Re: First grow, first trip, no effect [Re: Hobbit GDF] 1
#26526244 - 03/09/20 09:50 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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And it should be fine in a smoothie.. potency isn't affected if dried properly.. drying them is just good for storage.. I'd say wait maybe 4-5 days.. a week if u really want to be sure
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Re: First grow, first trip, no effect [Re: Mr Solo Dolo]
#26526325 - 03/09/20 10:33 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Why grow schwag when you can grow dank ? Lol that's a good one you're right ! It's maybe like learning to drive on a corolla so I can enjoy the GTR better later !
I'll wait a 3 to 4 days then try again, probably 25-30g fresh max, or 2g dried depending on how they grow, fingers crossed.
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Re: First grow, first trip, no effect [Re: mattsh]
#26526480 - 03/10/20 01:17 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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If u want the most out of fresh, make a tea or smoothie. Increase your dose by at least one medium-large shroom
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Re: First grow, first trip, no effect [Re: mattsh]
#26527357 - 03/10/20 01:43 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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There’s loads of things here, mattsh, that could have worked against you.......
It’s generally accepted that fresh mushrooms are 90% water. So 22g wet would equate to 2.2g dry. HOWEVER, on a consistent basis, my mushrooms work out at 93% water. And that is with Golden Teachers. So that 22g wet becomes 1.54g dry.
Now you have split that into 2 doses, 0.77g dry each (barely more than a micro dose!). Dosing again an hour after the first dose will NOT make the trip stronger, it will simply extend the duration of the dose you took initially.
So we’ve now established that you have taken a dose equivalent to 0.77g dry Golden Teacher.
Now people will disagree with me here, but in my personal experience, milk lines my stomach and slows down absorption of the psychoactives; this can pan out as a slow come up, a weak trip, or both.
Additionally the guys have mentioned multi-spore; basically the potency of the mushrooms in your grow is random, so you may also have just been unlucky in that you selected 2 weak mushrooms (though I don’t believe that’s the case here).
I also note from the photos that the veils have broken; so even though you think you have large mushrooms, as soon as the veil opens (the bit under the cap that then allows spores to drop), the mushrooms STOP producing the psychoactive chemicals, and concentrate their energies on spore production. So by letting the mushrooms grow after the veil breaks, in relative terms, is making those mushrooms weaker weight for weight.
So even though the scales said 22g, the potent part is actually (much) less than 22g. Multiply that by 0.07, divide by two, factor in multi-spore, and hey presto.....crappy trip, no trip.
I’d suggest you pick the rest of the mushrooms now while the caps are still ball-like and befor the veil breaks, wait a few days until the weekend, then make a tea out of another 22g wet. And drink it all at once. You will then experience at least some of the psychedlic headspace.
I’ve never taken a dose that low, so maybe some of the guys on here can advise you what to expect if you do indeed take a “proper” 1.5g dry dose.
Best of luck, and please report back in a few days on whether you were successful.
Last bit of advice; do not despair, Nd do not give up, as there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with the mushrooms you have grown.
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Re: First grow, first trip, no effect [Re: mattsh] 1
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Definitely up the dose, by at least half. You've established that either (a) the potency is low or (b) your natural tolerance is high. Although waiting an hour between halves isn't ideal you still should have been feeling something if everything was normal.
You need to work both those factors out but you WILL get there eventually.
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Re: First grow, first trip, no effect [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26530627 - 03/12/20 10:04 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Alright take two
To get straight to the point, nothing again.
Off work, mood was not great but I had a handful of dry mushrooms I really wanted to try.
So basically I took more than the previous dose put it in a smoothie and drank everything in one shot. That was on an empty stomach, after waking up. I took 5 mushrooms I harvested yesterday right after they broke their veil and 3 older one that broke their veil 3 days ago, roughly 30grams fresh that I dried. I thought about taking it in a tea but I just couldn't, that smoothie almost made me puke and there was no way I could drink that in a tea without cutting it with some fruits.
Put good music on and let the things happen.
Nothing. That was 2 hours ago.
Now I'm out of mushrooms and got stupid empty cakes.
All that was a shitload of disappointment.
I'm heading back to laying on the floor blasting Pink Floyd.
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Re: First grow, first trip, no effect [Re: mattsh] 1
#26530746 - 03/12/20 10:49 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Damn, that's disappointing.
Some people just need higher doses than others.
Fresh mushrooms are tricky to measure. Some are 90% water, others 95% or more..
Best is to dry them completly cracker dry so that they snap appart when trying to bend them. Then weigh out 3g or so.
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Re: First grow, first trip, no effect [Re: Pandemoon]
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I wish I could tell that there was some kind of effect, better mood maybe, but that could simply be attributed to anticipation or music. I know music improves my mood drastically.
At this point it can't be an issue of dried vs fresh, the only thing I can understand is that it's because of mushroom itself, probably not dosing or method of ingestion. I don't know.
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Re: First grow, first trip, no effect [Re: mattsh]
#26531086 - 03/12/20 01:53 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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mattsh said: Alright take two
To get straight to the point, nothing again.
Off work, mood was not great but I had a handful of dry mushrooms I really wanted to try.
So basically I took more than the previous dose put it in a smoothie and drank everything in one shot. That was on an empty stomach, after waking up. I took 5 mushrooms I harvested yesterday right after they broke their veil and 3 older one that broke their veil 3 days ago, roughly 30grams fresh that I dried. I thought about taking it in a tea but I just couldn't, that smoothie almost made me puke and there was no way I could drink that in a tea without cutting it with some fruits.
Put good music on and let the things happen.
Nothing. That was 2 hours ago.
Now I'm out of mushrooms and got stupid empty cakes.
All that was a shitload of disappointment.
I'm heading back to laying on the floor blasting Pink Floyd.
You want to strain the spent shrooms out of the tea. It's just pointless to consume them.
Could be your natural tolerance, could be your grow. Seeing how most people don't have high tolerance, it's probably genetics of the grow. Sorry.
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Re: First grow, first trip, no effect [Re: Pandemoon]
#26531185 - 03/12/20 02:51 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Pandemoon said: Fresh mushrooms are tricky to measure. Some are 90% water, others 95% or more.. -
Understated but very important point. Everyone just assumes 90%, but that variation (90-95) means a significant difference in the required dosage.
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Just crap shoot ms genetics is what I think. Happened to me my first mono
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Re: First grow, first trip, no effect [Re: Hobbit GDF]
#26533294 - 03/13/20 06:35 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Alright I understand, probably bad mushrooms or bad growing process. Thank you very much for all your answers all !
So now what do I do with the other syringe I have ? should I even bother trying to grow something with it assuming it's the same kind I already tried ? I feel like throwing it away at this point. I just ordered another one from another vendor but it's going to take a while to receive it and redo the whole process of colonization and growth.
One thing is for sure is that instead of doing a couple of cakes I'll do a dozen of them. Maybe more.
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Re: First grow, first trip, no effect [Re: mattsh]
#26533381 - 03/13/20 07:41 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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With multispore syringes the genetics could be weak but you could also find good genetics.. just really random.. There's never any consistency until genetics are narrowed down through isolation.. agar is pretty good for this.. In my experience it's more uncommon to find weak genetics but it still happens..
The syringe is probably still good.. I'd keep it and try again at some point if I were you
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Re: First grow, first trip, no effect [Re: mattsh]
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mattsh said: Alright I understand, probably bad mushrooms or bad growing process. Thank you very much for all your answers all !
So now what do I do with the other syringe I have ? should I even bother trying to grow something with it assuming it's the same kind I already tried ? I feel like throwing it away at this point. I just ordered another one from another vendor but it's going to take a while to receive it and redo the whole process of colonization and growth.
One thing is for sure is that instead of doing a couple of cakes I'll do a dozen of them. Maybe more.
MS is MS you won't gain better results from another syringe. You can roll the dice again with what you had...or dive into agar. Recommend the latter but the former just comes down to if you're lucky.
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Re: First grow, first trip, no effect [Re: mattsh]
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I feel for you, mattsh! I’ve been there a few times.
But as many have said, MS is random. I think twice I have had really crap spores from a syringe. I put it down to experience and don’t buy from that vendor again! I don’t always use vendors from the shroomery list (shock horror) because quite a few don’t ship to the uk; one of these vendors is from Holland FFS, so why they wouldn’t ship a few miles to the uk I don’t know!
No pal, stick with it and try again. You’d only get another weak grow if the spore syringes are old, and hence the spores are weak and will grow slowly......
So consider ramping up your mushroom production. An easy way to get higher yields from BRF cakes without investing heavily in loads of equipment (pressure cooker, monotub, 5 gallon bucket for coir etc.) try spawning your cakes........ Get yourself some of those aluminium trays used for takeaways, you can get a job lot of Amazon for a reasonable price. When your cakes are ready for fruiting, you actually break them up into small pieces and mix in with a substrate; you’ll have to research in the cultivation section for ideas (sorry). I think I spawned into coir and vermiculite. You then put these trays into your SGFC. You will more than double your potential yield.
Also dude, get yourself some spore prints from some healthy vigorous looking mushrooms; when the veil breaks snip off the cap. You’ll need a prepared rectangle of sterile tin foil, pre-folded. Put the cap face down on the foil and cover with a damp glass for 24 hours. Lift the cap and hey presto, spore print. Fold the foil over and fold over the edges. Will stay viable for ages in the fridge, so you can learn to do agar work, to isolate better genetics. [I took some prints yesterday from Mazatapec which are supposed to be difficult to get dense prints from - the caps had fully opened, so the spores have dropped really heavily 👍🏻).
And while that’s all going on, take a look at BOD’s Easy AF Monotub Tek in “Getting Started”. Take a look at my first results from BOD’s Tek here.
Good luck pal, do not despair, the mushrooms will reward you for your efforts and the love you put in 👍🏻
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Re: First grow, first trip, no effect [Re: DJ Ed]
#26653908 - 05/06/20 09:24 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hello everyone,
Here's a little update concerning my tripping endeavor. Well since my last message, I have been tripping or trying to, roughly every week, every 3 to 7 days, with moderate success. I would say half of the time I have had no real effect and the other half results were good, with doses ranging from 3g to 6g, always in the same conditions, tea, empty stomach, same preparation.
So, I'm not sure, my last try was today, at 8, it's 11 now, I wanted to try it at night for the first time and took 6g, not much happened beside slight usual physiological effects, numbness and tiredness, but that's it, nothing else.
The best trip I had was 2 weeks ago with a little more than 5g, but it wasn't even close to the strength you'd expect reading other people's reports.
Anyway I don't know.
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Re: First grow, first trip, no effect [Re: mattsh]
#26653941 - 05/06/20 09:46 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hm, every 3 days is a quick turn around for dosing. Even with tolerance, and "average" potency fruit, you would feel more than tired though. Maybe worth it to grab a new set of spores, that's frustrating..
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Re: First grow, first trip, no effect [Re: chuckarama]
#26654029 - 05/06/20 10:54 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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take a 2-3 month break and try taking 4 grams dried. I’d have almost every reason to believe that recipe would work, maybe too well if you not really tripping now.
You’d know if you were. Be careful mate.
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Re: First grow, first trip, no effect [Re: The Blind Ass]
#26659884 - 05/09/20 12:06 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think it's because of the mushrooms themselves that are not very potent. I can understand that low potency requires bigger doses, what I have a hard time understanding is the differences of effects from one try to another, for this last particular try I have waited for 6 days, and I've had successes with taking two similar doses with 4 days apart. It seems that waiting 5 to 7 days between trips is the amount of time recommended.
Overall from the different flushes I've had from my growth I can't draw any conclusion based on the grow and their effects, and the mushrooms themselves look fine and healthy, it's the results that do not really match what could be expected, or at least have some kind of consistency.
Talking about spores, I have a lot of them now and have several jars colonizing, but I'd like to understand, if those spores are coming from low potency mushrooms, how likely is it they will lead to an average potency of the same species or strain ?
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Re: First grow, first trip, no effect [Re: mattsh]
#26660205 - 05/09/20 02:48 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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That’s the ultra minimum recommendation. If you didn’t trip at all, or only subtlety I’d still recommend at least waiting 1-2 weeks between dosing again. Once you do get the effect and you are undeniably tripping I’d wait 1 month minimum before taking again (or you can try back to back and then wait that long) and that’s the minimum in my book. I prefer much more space between trips than most though. However. Everyone has to find what works best for them.
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Re: First grow, first trip, no effect [Re: The Blind Ass]
#26669437 - 05/13/20 08:48 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yesterday night I tried again with a little less than 5.5g and results were similar to my previous successful trips. It kind of hit me like a hammer because I did not really expect it to succeed due to the previous experience.
Now I can understand that taking mushrooms too often can reduce effects, but I really need to understand the reasons of the discrepancies of the effects, the mushrooms all came from my growth and were harvested and dried, around the same time and following the same method. I can assume that to me, something around 5g to 6g is ok for the mushrooms I'm using right now, but I have no idea what to expect for my future growth when all my colonizing jars will come to fruiting.
-------------------- Matt
Edited by mattsh (05/13/20 08:49 PM)
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Re: First grow, first trip, no effect [Re: mattsh]
#26671328 - 05/14/20 07:55 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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thats the fun of multispore grows - every mushroom is random. it doesn't matter if it's even the same jar as before - every. mushroom. is. random. those spores basically grow networks and wherever they cross with other spores networks they "breed" and that's where mushroom fruiting bodies form (this is probably somewhat inaccurate but the general idea) and those knots where the fruiting bodies are each have their own genetics.
if you want something fairly reliable and consistent you gotta either harvest em all at once, dry em all, then blend em into powder, and mix well, then figure out that big batch of powders potency, at which point it's consistent (for that batch), or you gotta take a tiny piece of a mushroom you like the looks of, pray its got good genetics, perform sterile cloning procedures and clone it, let it grow out a bit, take a slice of the network that grows out, let that grow out, repeat and repeat until you get a nice separation that indicates you got a single genetics, then grow that out and see if you got good genetics or a bunk grow. rinse and repeat until you get a shroom culture you like. this is basically getting into "fun guy" territory though.
or again, pick a shroom variety like penis envy that's fairly consistently strong (and uh... go a bit lighter on it. cause those suckers pack a punch. like 1.5-2x as strong as normal cubes usually.) and even then you're still going to get genetic lottery... but less likely to get a dud. just more likely to get a supershroom.
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Re: First grow, first trip, no effect [Re: Psion] 1
#26671387 - 05/14/20 08:26 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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yeah. 5-7g masa’s from a MS grow was trippy and cool, sometimes dark and scary, other times light and insightful and euphoric with great illusions and fantastical hallucinations.
5- 7 of cloned APE was like journeying through the Uber soul’s cosmic mystical labyrinth to find an opening to a secret inter-trans-dimensional portal to the control room for reality wherein the workers were on break and I was free to look & play around to my heart’s content.
Sometimes non-dual ecstatic Union with the All, and sometimes things truly ineffable where even metaphor and analogy fail to convey the slightest sense of it.
The Mind of Cosmos is the ultimate hyperspace Dreamtime, Psychedelics are like living sacramental tools to some.
-------------------- Give me Liberty caps -or- give me Death caps
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Re: First grow, first trip, no effect [Re: The Blind Ass] 1
#26671443 - 05/14/20 09:08 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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lol, uncut penis envys were the first time i ever really saw true visuals, although it was more visions than anything else - like daydreaming but so clear it was almost like i was seeing it as clear as day. i did get some actual open eye visuals though, more than i ever did before. definitely more visual than other shroom varieties, and more fun.
and to think i just picked the variety cause i felt it was my gay pride duty. :P
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Re: First grow, first trip, no effect [Re: Psion]
#26673684 - 05/15/20 09:35 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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The dose should have been sufficient for some effects. Must be the genetics. It's a bummer but not a show stopper. Keep at it.
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