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Issue with making Changa * 2
    #26525028 - 03/09/20 06:20 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Hey friends of the DMT.

As of recently i'm getting into Changa with surprising and pleasant results.

However i observe an issue in my final product: A substantial amount of harmala freebase gets left behind on the sides and the bottom of the evaporation dish. This results in a lower yield than expected:

I'm using 1:1,2:1 ratio (DMT/Harmala/Plants) and thus when using 500mg DMT, 600mg Harmala and 500mg Leaves i should recieve 1,6g product. However it turns out to something like 1,3g, with residue left behind on the bottom of the dish.

I want to solve this problem, but to mee it feels like the leaves are not physically capable of absorbing as much powder. (Even though some use even 1,5x Harmala).
I'm making small batches as I'm still trying out Leave recipees i like. So far i have been using Caapi 50% and then a mix of CBD Weed, Blue Lotus and Calea. As of solvent, i'm using IPA in water bath (25ml for the above amounts, so roughly 40ml/g DMT) but consider switching to Acetone due to IPA shortness amongst the Corona pandemic.

So if anyone knows this issue or has some ideas me and my eternal spirit would appreciate.


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Re: Issue with making Changa [Re: SpearCaps] * 3
    #26525565 - 03/09/20 02:12 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

That's way too much harmala and you don't have any absorbent leaf on board, it won't stick properly.

Try 1:1:0.6  eg: 500mg leaf, 500mg DMT, 300mg harmala. Even 1:1:0.5 works pretty well also.

Try adding mullein as 30% of your leaf mix. It absorbs very well, makes the smoke smoother and helps it burn more evenly.

Cut your solvent levels way down too. Try using around 10-15ml. Mix it in a heavy bottomed shotglass in a bowl of hot water so you have some heat to help dissolve your alkaloids, then pour it on your leaf. Use an additional 1ml to rinse it after and pour that on too. Mix it all with a pointy metal thing a couple of times while drying. Then when dry add another 1ml of solvent to the mix and push the leaf around to mop up any stuck alkaloids from the dish.

I've made 1:1:1 mixes before and found them to be way too dreamy. It took away from the experience for me. Other people I gave it to also found it a bit much, not sure if they were asleep or what. Not the best imho.

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Re: Issue with making Changa [Re: SpearCaps] * 1
    #26526864 - 03/10/20 08:53 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

You can't really expect plant matter to absorb twice its weight in alkaloids. Maybe with mullein, that's pretty fluffy. But you'd have better results with a 1:1 plant:alkaloid ratio. Just will need to pack twice as much herb, but that's fine since you want to take your time with changa anyway.


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Re: Issue with making Changa [Re: Icon]
    #26527276 - 03/10/20 01:02 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

These are two very fine inputs.

It is also in concurrence with my previous two Changa batches, that all had too much Harmalas to get fully absorbed by the leafs.
I was following a Tek from the Nexus, that suggested even higher amounts of Harmala, so i felt scaling down to 1,2 would be fine.

I love Caapi and Blue Lotus, they give me a very smooth smoke. Hopefully i can find the mullein; not sure where to look though. Maybe in a tea shop?

I am gonna reduce the solvent for my next try and also try the parfuming Tek: Infuse the Solvent for a week in a closed dish with a fragnant herb, like lemongrass, peppermint or lavender (i will use the latter). This apparentely gives the Changa a nice smell.


Edit: You think i can use some more DMT and then less changa for the last, harmala heavy batch?


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Re: Issue with making Changa [Re: SpearCaps]
    #26527358 - 03/10/20 01:43 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I get mullein on ebay. :thumbup:

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You think i can use some more DMT and then less changa for the last, harmala heavy batch?



What do you mean? That's not really clear.


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Re: Issue with making Changa [Re: Northerner]
    #26534795 - 03/14/20 01:03 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Oh you are right.

I meant to ask, if i can "spice" up the harmala heavy changa with some more DMT, or if the absorption as at capacity?


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Re: Issue with making Changa [Re: SpearCaps]
    #26534982 - 03/14/20 02:20 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Have you tried it? It's probably already fire at your current ratio. 100mg of that hit slowly in one and then held for as long as you possibly can should catapult you into the realm. Remember to light as needed and chase the cherry, Don't hold the flame on it or you destroy the magic.

If you put too much spice the leaf will turn into hard lumps and lose it's ability to burn properly. Kinda defeats the purpose. The furthest I've been able to push it without it turning to rocks is 6:4:2  DMT:herb:harmalas. And that's with mullein on board. Still some hard bits but didn't need too much lighting.


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