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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
    #26524241 - 03/08/20 04:36 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Dr Campbell calls it "the worst epidemic since the Spanish Flu" today and is getting increasigly concerned with the reactive approach taken in the west.



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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26524264 - 03/08/20 04:50 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I find it very interesting at this moment how different people react to this.

Some people see one or two questionable charts and decide it's the same as the flu. If you aren't worried about the flu, you should forget about this either.
Other people love to express their opinion on how stupid everyone who stacks supplies is. It's just a laugh for them. Until it isn't anymore.
Some would probably rather get corona instead of putting the mask on their face in public and standing out in the crowd.
Any other groups I missed?

Also, I feel really disappointed in Elon Musk's tweet 'The corona virus panic is dumb' and not saying anything else. 1.6m likes on the post too. Sure, panic is dumb, but should you really make it a joke? I'm pretty sure those 1.6m people will now be laughing at anyone who's concerned about the virus and will be referencing that tweet. The guy's a genius, so he must be right...

Exponential growth video shared on the previous page of this thread is the best approach to look at the virus imo. I'd like to share it in social media, but I'm even afraid to be ridiculed by those groups of people.

Just look at what's happening in Wuhan and in Italy now, probably soon in Iran and other countries too. It's great for those of us who aren't directly affected by it, but it can reach us too pretty quickly. Making it a laughing material isn't helpful in any way.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: 2bilas] * 2
    #26524294 - 03/08/20 05:14 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

As Enlil put it in a discussion, which was spot on (paraphrasing)

Seasonal flu has about 0.1% mortality, Covid 3.4% so if Covid was "just a flu" the death rate now would be 100, and not over 3000.

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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: Asante]
    #26524514 - 03/08/20 07:51 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

What's the increase in cases in Holland today since yesterday?


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: RebeccaBlack] * 1
    #26524585 - 03/08/20 08:38 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Ha!

188 --> 265

Us be f :shitfan: cked

At this rate, a few more days and we got 1000



Why has Italy 4.95% mortality?


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26524604 - 03/08/20 08:48 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Demographics?


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: Ahab McBathsalts] * 1
    #26524649 - 03/08/20 09:17 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Because they likely have way more infected people in reality and only the sickest people get tested early on. It makes the mortality rate artificially high


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: RebeccaBlack] * 1
    #26524888 - 03/09/20 01:52 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

they keep eating pizza


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: RebeccaBlack]
    #26524889 - 03/09/20 01:55 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Daijo said:
Because they likely have way more infected people in reality and only the sickest people get tested early on. It makes the mortality rate artificially high




Hopefully so because if the current predictions for this CFR are correct then that would be really, realllllly bad news. (Some are estimating an average ov 2%, with others coser to 4% fatality.)  Especially for anyone who has a grandparent or more alive. I think the problem exists not in the virus itself, at least for most of us, although that threat is obviously severe to the 60-70-or-especially 80y/o+ populations as well as anyone dealing with other serious medical concerns.

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The ethical things to do, at least in my mind:

Realize this will continue to spread.

Not be more scared of a virus than your fellow humans.
And don't be scared of your fellow humans either, unless they prove otherwise.
Wash your filthy ass hands properly F.F.S.
We have proven as a species that we can be heroes or monsters. 
It's your choice, but please...be good bois, and stay away from the elderly & infirm.

Panic would absolutely suck and I really hope we rise up against bulltshit as best we can in our local communities and with our voices across our webz.

...just watch this and tell me COVID-19 couldn't be way worse:

Contagion

Gwyneth Paltrow
Matt Damon
Laurence Fishburne
Jude Law
Kate Winslet
Bryan Cranston
Demetri Martin
etc...
directed by Steven Soderbergh y written by Scott Z. Burns


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: unam sanctum] * 1
    #26524890 - 03/09/20 01:57 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Just when you thought things couldnt get any worse...


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: tomnl]
    #26524958 - 03/09/20 04:14 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Flu has killed 20K Americans including 136 children so far this season, CDC says


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: RebeccaBlack]
    #26524963 - 03/09/20 04:20 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Ahab McBathsalts said:
Demographics?





One would think, but Japan is just as old and only 3.3%


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Because they likely have way more infected people in reality and only the sickest people get tested early on. It makes the mortality rate artificially high





Thats my guess.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: Asante]
    #26524982 - 03/09/20 04:47 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: trees]
    #26524983 - 03/09/20 04:47 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Flu has killed 20K Americans including 136 children so far this season, CDC says




Yeah that’s what gets me about all of this. COVID-19 hits & all the sudden there’s this push for hygiene, hand washing signs all over, hand sanitizer all over. How about paying attention to hygiene all the fucking time?


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [COVID 19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka "Wuhan Coronavirus"] [Re: Asante]
    #26525029 - 03/09/20 06:21 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

We're learning, Dark_Star. It takes Covid to shake us awake but, we're learning.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Asante]
    #26525104 - 03/09/20 07:37 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)



Refined specs:

20% asymptomatic
60% mild illness
15% serious illness
5% critical illness

1-14 days incubation time

3-5x as contagious as the flu

Dry cough, fever, nausea
diarroea, achy muscles
fatigue.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Asante]
    #26525162 - 03/09/20 08:44 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I'm going to say something very terrible: I believe that the COVID pandemic will cause a massive die-off among the HIV infected, especially in developing nations where these diseases are endemic, possibly leading to a sharp reduction of the number of HIV infected worldwide.

I mean, if smoking matters for the degree of lethality, don't you think AIDS will?


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Asante] * 2
    #26525258 - 03/09/20 09:52 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I'm going to go ahead and get COVID-19 now while there are still open hospital beds.


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Crazy_Horse]
    #26525268 - 03/09/20 10:03 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I'm pretty sure you can get sick multiple times, though only one case like that has been confirmed so far, so who knows.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/27/japanese-woman-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-for-second-time


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: 2bilas] * 1
    #26525270 - 03/09/20 10:04 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

So last year 37,000 Americans died from the common Flu. It averages between 27,000 and 70,000 per year. Nothing is shut down, life & the economy go on. At this moment there are 546 confirmed cases of CoronaVirus, with 22 deaths. Think about that!


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