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    #26524940 - 03/09/20 03:54 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Hey shroomery, any other users of DAW such as Fl studios and Ableton to talk to and learn from on these threads?  Anyone with a music background that's willing to help someone learning music theory, mixing, and mastering let me know.


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    #26525564 - 03/09/20 02:11 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

This guy is great for FL Studio tutorials.

https://www.youtube.com/user/nfxbeats


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    #26525643 - 03/09/20 03:02 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I use FL Studio and Maschine to make LO-FI beats.


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    #26526201 - 03/09/20 09:20 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I have some experience with FL Stuido and with Audacity.


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Re: DAW users [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26526373 - 03/09/20 11:06 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Did you have an understanding of music theory before getting the DAW or did you learn as you learned the software?

I had some dusty knowledge from middle school band but on my own using videos I've learned much more about music than I have in my entire life.

I've been watching hours among hours of videos for FL studios and lessons on music theory and I am progressing at a satisfying rate I just know that the software has many features that you got to discover in order to use.

Any plug ins you would recommend? Im waiting until my funds are right to get serum because that seems essential. Are there any other essential plug ins i should look up? Ive only been at this since October.


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    #26526443 - 03/10/20 12:14 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Did you have an understanding of music theory before getting the DAW or did you learn as you learned the software?

I had some dusty knowledge from middle school band but on my own using videos I've learned much more about music than I have in my entire life.

I've been watching hours among hours of videos for FL studios and lessons on music theory and I am progressing at a satisfying rate I just know that the software has many features that you got to discover in order to use.

Any plug ins you would recommend? Im waiting until my funds are right to get serum because that seems essential. Are there any other essential plug ins i should look up? Ive only been at this since October.



Before making beats, I knew how to play the piano but other than that, I had no music experience what-so-ever, especially theory lol I did the same thing you're doing now, watching Youtube tutorials and studying the type of music I wanted to make. Just keep at it and you'll continue to progress. As for plugins, if you have the money to spend I'd recommend Waves and FabFilter; these companies make some of the best plugins on the market and you can buy the plugins in bundles, but you can make some great sounding music with the FL stock plugins, believe it or not. Native Instruments also makes some really great plugins like Battery and Kontakt.


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Re: DAW users [Re: Plain]
    #26526472 - 03/10/20 01:02 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Nah, i just went in with no knowledge of music. I literally played by ear. If the loops sounded good together, then i went along with addinf more to the track to try to make a song. More like trial and error. Would be cool to get education on music theory thou.

As mentioned above, FL Studio has a ton of awesome Plug Ins. I highly recommend exploring the stock plug-ins fist. Plently to play with. FL Studio has a pretty aggressive learning curve. Theres a lot u can do with it.

Im not sure about buy Plug-ins but im sure they are available. Maybe on FL Studios website? :shrug:


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Re: DAW users [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26526482 - 03/10/20 01:19 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I feel like the ability to play piano is a huge leg up in music production. When i first sat in front of some keys I couldn't even understand the keys. Now i can play some chords by memory. Its definitely a noticeable progression that makes me feel like this is a worthwhile effort.

Is there a big difference between stock filters and paid ones?

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Nah, i just went in with no knowledge of music. I literally played by ear. If the loops sounded good together, then i went along with addinf more to the track to try to make a song. More like trial and error. Would be cool to get education on music theory thou.

As mentioned above, FL Studio has a ton of awesome Plug Ins. I highly recommend exploring the stock plug-ins fist. Plently to play with. FL Studio has a pretty aggressive learning curve. Theres a lot u can do with it.

Im not sure about buy Plug-ins but im sure they are available. Maybe on FL Studios website? :shrug:




I have used the life out of the stock plug ins and everything i see online is people using Serum. Typically I use Flex but use the other stocks and a couple free VSTs i got.
Image-line.com is the site where Fl studios plug ins are purchase and there are a few free trial VSTs i would consider buying.

The stock plug ins would probably be great if i knew how to tweak sounds like a sound engineer but im no where near there. Might have to look up some tutorials on making stock sounds better.


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    #26526506 - 03/10/20 01:53 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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I feel like the ability to play piano is a huge leg up in music production. When i first sat in front of some keys I couldn't even understand the keys. Now i can play some chords by memory. Its definitely a noticeable progression that makes me feel like this is a worthwhile effort.

Is there a big difference between stock filters and paid ones?




If you know how to use them, paid-plugins can totally transform your music.

For example, Waves has tons of compressor and tape-machine plugins that are true emulations of vintage hardware, hardware used to mix some of the most well known albums of all time (Abbey Road, Thriller, Led Zeppelin IV, etc.)

You really get what you pay for and can get some AMAZING sound out of these plugins. But these are top of the line and can be pricey. FabFilter is another really good company; their plugins offer some of the craziest mixing control I've ever seen, especially with their ProQ EQ. And their distortion plugin is fantastic.


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    #26526509 - 03/10/20 02:03 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Exactly the info I needed.

Would you encourage learning stock filters more before purchasing new and possibly more complex software?
I have been so focused on music theory I haven't done much with mastering or effects.

I have seen Fabfilter uses in videos before. I have bought some stuff and it was worth the money for sure. I am looking for a Lo Fi hip hop sound and a modern EDM or pop sound. Although I aim to learn all genres when i get to a place in music theory where I feel tjat will not be as much of a challenge.


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Re: DAW users [Re: Plain] * 1
    #26526517 - 03/10/20 02:25 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah best way to learn is just play around and tweak all the settings. FL Studios has an awesome manual. If u havent, read it up. Lots of great info in there.

I find trial and error my favorite way to learn but tutorials work as well :yesnod:

What FL Studio do u have? Ever practiced mastering with Audacity?


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    #26526518 - 03/10/20 02:28 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I'd recommend learning the basic stock plugins first, just to get the hang of them so when you eventually do get the higher end plugins, you'll know exactly how to tweak them to get the sound that you want. And if you're looking for a wicked trick that changed my drums FOREVER, look up NY Compression (parallel processing) tutorial on Youtube. It makes you drums sound FAT AF. It works really well on basses and samples too.

Another tip (lol), if you find you have problems with keeping decent headroom, when your track is mostly arranged and you begin to mix it, reduce the volume on all the sliders you have sounds assigned to on the mixer and slowly increase the volume of each slider, one at a time (starting with the quietest elements in the track and ending with your loudest elements, your drums, for example. Use your ears and balance the sounds using the volume sliders).

Before I do this, my track can be maxing out at -1.5db, which is loud AF for mixing and offers very little headroom for mastering. When you apply the tip above, you can bring the overall volume of the track down to something like -5db, which is plenty of headroom for later mastering.

I hope that make sense lol


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    #26526522 - 03/10/20 02:35 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Indeed. Mix at a lower volume then when you amplify at the end (Mastering), its a lot easier to get a loud Master. I learned this recordinf music thru my DJ mixer.


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Re: DAW users [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 2
    #26526531 - 03/10/20 03:04 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I used FL Studio for about 6 years but I recently switched to Bitwig and I'm loving it!

I think the best way to learn is to just play with the program and watch some youtube tutorials. After you get the hang of it and know where most of the stuff is, I recommend going through all the effects and learning how to use them and how they work.
Synths you could learn a few, all of them or none depending on how much you like using them. I really liked N.I. Massive but I also loved some default fl synths.
It's very important to learn how the plugins work, not just how to use them.

Music theory is pretty important, that's why knowing to play an instrument is a huge win. I use a 16 pad midi drum machine for finger drumming and sometimes I play guitar/bass

I wouldn't recommend investing in paid effect plugins, most of them are mere variations of the stock ones and won't help you make better music. You could however get a synth if you find that none of the stock ones suit your needs. 3xOsc was the only one I really liked in fl and it's the most basic one


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Re: DAW users [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26526532 - 03/10/20 03:06 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Indeed. Mix at a lower volume then when you amplify at the end (Mastering), its a lot easier to get a loud Master. I learned this recordinf music thru my DJ mixer.



When I learned this trick, it made mixing SO much easier. Saves tons of hassle later on.


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    #26526539 - 03/10/20 03:16 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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I used FL Studio for about 6 years but I recently switched to Bitwig and I'm loving it!

I think the best way to learn is to just play with the program and watch some youtube tutorials. After you get the hang of it and know where most of the stuff is, I recommend going through all the effects and learning how to use them and how they work.
Synths you could learn a few, all of them or none depending on how much you like using them. I really liked N.I. Massive but I also loved some default fl synths.
It's very important to learn how the plugins work, not just how to use them.

Music theory is pretty important, that's why knowing to play an instrument is a huge win. I use a 16 pad midi drum machine for finger drumming and sometimes I play guitar/bass

I wouldn't recommend investing in paid effect plugins, most of them are mere variations of the stock ones and won't help you make better music. You could however get a synth if you find that none of the stock ones suit your needs. 3xOsc was the only one I really liked in fl and it's the most basic one




Have you tried Omnisphere? It's wicked for synths and pads.


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    #26526555 - 03/10/20 03:35 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I didn't try it but I've seen a few videos on it and I think it has some pretty awesome features


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    #26526560 - 03/10/20 03:40 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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I didn't try it but I've seen a few videos on it and I think it has some pretty awesome features



Yeah man, it's insane. You can mix and match sounds together to create totally new and crazy shit. You can even load in your own samples and mix them with synths, pads, psycho-acoustics, etc.

Their choir section is top-notch as well.


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    #26526571 - 03/10/20 04:05 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Bitwig sounds pretty awesome. Is it easy to use?

BooShow, for sure. Makes it so much easier. As long as your noise floor is low, its the best way to do it IMO.


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Re: DAW users [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26526644 - 03/10/20 05:38 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Bitwig sounds pretty awesome. Is it easy to use?




Yeah, i think that the GUI is very well designed and that's a big thing, especially for beginners. It has a workflow that is pretty similar to Ableton.

Modulations are "its thing" and it has an awesome stock modular poly synth called "The Grid"

Also a big selling point for me is the fact that it runs natively on linux, as well as windows and mac

If anyone wants to give it a try I believe there is a free demo version on their website that has all features enabled but you can't save projects.


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    #26529240 - 03/11/20 02:16 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

What are the best synth plug ins for lo fi hip hop and where can i find saws that dont sound so video gamey?

Is it possible to polish stock plugin sounds to an industry standard esque sound?


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    #26529376 - 03/11/20 03:45 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

There are many great and free VST plug-ins downloadable online.  Most have a graphic interface for you to tweak the sounds to your liking.

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    #26530282 - 03/12/20 05:01 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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What are the best synth plug ins for lo fi hip hop and where can i find saws that dont sound so video gamey?

Is it possible to polish stock plugin sounds to an industry standard esque sound?




There isn't really a best synth for a certain genre, you should just look at a few, try them out and see what you can and can't do with them

A saw is a pretty rough sounding osc, just by themselves many oscillators sound very "video gamey". The idea is to take that base sound and add different effects to it to make it sound more refined.

Some sounds you just won't ever be able to get with some synths, that's why some are better than others for certain things, but you still have A LOT of creative freedom just with the stock plugins

I found this website not so long ago called soundgym.co that has free video lessons on pretty much every aspect of digital music production(effects, synths, mastering). You could check it out if you want, I learned quite a lot of new things there.


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    #26530348 - 03/12/20 06:35 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Yes!

I was going to say, to get the sounr u want usually involves multiple "stock" plug ins working together at the same time. Like a Saw with a Reverb as an example.

I remember looking at the free FL Studio tracks, man so complex! Some sounds had like 3 or 4 effects for one loop track! U can get real creative when u mix up multiple effects/plug ins.


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    #26531962 - 03/13/20 12:44 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks for that advice I kind of got the idea on how to link a couple plug ins together I just wish I knew whst I was looking for as far as elementary aspects of adjusting sounds. Like i dont want to just memorize what im doing I want to know what I am doing.


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    #26532652 - 03/13/20 12:38 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Like i dont want to just memorize what im doing I want to know what I am doing.




The best way is just experimentation.  You may quite possibly end up creating things that surpass what you are pre-conceiving.


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    #26533690 - 03/13/20 11:38 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I have been going through a learning curve lately and a lot of this process is really clicking with me. I have learned a little more about effects and using two VSTs together to create more complex/ideal sounds.

I can now play some chords and melodies so I dont have to rely on modifying MIDI files. My stuff sounds very beginner but it is genuine progress from not knowing anything and self teaching with videos. I already had a background in percussion so beat making is natural for me.


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Re: DAW users [Re: Plain]
    #26533695 - 03/13/20 11:41 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Perfect! Youre on your way to learning how to make more complex sounds :thumbup:

As the old saying goes, practice makes perfect.


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    #26535216 - 03/14/20 05:14 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

That is definitely true. I have a couple pieces of music I have made myself that im impressed with and my girlfriend says some of them can be something. So I am about to put in mad hours trying to make something out of this.

Anyone here do any business or publishing with their music?


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    #26545104 - 03/19/20 04:23 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Quick question.

When mastering low and adjusting higher, how do you begin mastering low and not at default?


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    #26568647 - 03/31/20 08:50 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

just got my first studio monitors yesterday, hello fellow DAWers

I'm just now getting back into it but I've been happy with my first couple practice loops

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just got my first studio monitors yesterday, hello fellow DAWers

I'm just now getting back into it but I've been happy with my first couple practice loops

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Right on man! What kind of monitors did you get?


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Re: DAW users [Re: BooShow] * 1
    #26569726 - 03/31/20 06:23 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

yeah its been fun listening to all my old favorite music with some true sound quality for once

Got two Adam Audio T7V's. Was tempted to get the A7X's but I figure hey lets make more music before we go blowing that kind of money, if i ever want to upgrade I can just sell the ones I have now anyways.

Everybody on the internet was telling me I wouldn't need a subwoofer but thats definitely next on my list. these things have good bass no doubt but it lacks punch. That and a decent mic; I had this dream recently where me and a co-worker were 'singing' such a strange beautiful song together and its been killing me that I can't try to re-create it because my mic is so terrible.


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Re: DAW users [Re: Psilosopherr] * 1
    #26578268 - 04/04/20 10:33 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Everyday I seem to be getting a better understanding on how to play keys and an overall understanding of music theory in general.

This makes it easy to program simple chord progressions and melodies. I can work with the stock VSTs and be satisfied now that I have not put as much expectation into sounds.

I have found mixing sounds together can create unique higher quality sounds as was said in this thread, excellent and obvious advice I was hesitant to try.

My next goals are to develop sampling skills. I want to produce creative mixes with sounds and audio clips that can be mixed into an interesting track. I have Slicex, Newtime, and other stock plug ins to work with.


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    #26578503 - 04/05/20 01:12 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Sick! I also recommend Audacity for making samples, then importing into your DAW.


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    #26578574 - 04/05/20 02:06 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

May I ask why you recommend it? I have heard of it before and but did not know it was free.


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Re: DAW users [Re: Plain]
    #26578661 - 04/05/20 03:34 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Its easy to use and lots of features on it. Its really useful for recording things on the fly, like from a movie or TV show or YouTube, whatever it might be.

Its very versatile. But Im sure theres paid versions out there that are even better. But for free, you cant beat it.


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    #26578781 - 04/05/20 05:49 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

:whathesaid:
It's what I've been using since switching daws

When I used FL i  really liked slicex tho


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    #26591935 - 04/10/20 07:33 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Found a few Facebook groups full of people with experience that ranges from 1st day to professional. It has provided me with straight forward answers and a reference to where I am at in my process of learning. Highly recommend jumping on that for beginners. It is nice to have a a network of like minded people to bounce ideas off of.


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Re: DAW users [Re: Plain]
    #26592344 - 04/10/20 10:44 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

agreed, I've been getting a lot out of similar fb groups myself. There's some groups specifically for free VST/software I recommend joining

just today someone posted that izotope ozone elements 9 is free on sweetwater right now.

got my first real song in the works at the moment and I'm very pleased with it so far


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    #26601216 - 04/14/20 06:14 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Just requested to join both the groups i saw. Good looking out.

Got Ozone and ive been looking for this since i heard about it recently.

Im starting to learn more about mastering at the moment so its great timing for them to give this out for free. Ive been using maximus and the stock limiter and that has given me a decent foundation. Ozone does look like it would have been worth the pretty penny its worth.

What genre of music are you producing?


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    #26601305 - 04/14/20 06:44 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Well awesome :grin:

Me? I'm going for a churchy vibe right now, warm and soothing. this kinda thing is my inspiration


wanna get some opera style singing in there eventually kinda like this


Then on the other side I wanna do something I call 'island pop.' zany and silly. i don't have a good example of that on hand. i guess this kinda counts. that vocal at 1:20 just warms my heart


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    #26623666 - 04/23/20 11:44 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Subscribed to the channel.

So i got a 61 key midi and now that i have real keys to learn on I feel like its going to be a lot more work than what i had thought using my Akai Fire controllers note setting. Now i can set up an 32 pad FPC set up with FIRE controller and a chromatic key scale with a separate VST on my keys 16 pads for bass and chords/melodies to be played on the keys.  Still learning how to navigate using the MIDI so I can play more complex sessions with more layers.

Now i can throw together and jam out beats without constantly grabbing the mouse. Feels like im actually progressing in something since ive been lost in life for years. Makes me smile.

Given the pandemic and being "essential" I feel like I can maintain sanity throughout this whole ordeal balancing work and practice.  Got a bunch of free software and lessons with my keyboard so hopefully by the end of this pandemic ill be able to play like a solid pianist.


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    #26623677 - 04/23/20 11:52 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: DAW users [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #26635729 - 04/29/20 12:43 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Anybody know good places to get free sample packs? :begger:


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    #26640112 - 04/30/20 10:56 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Cymatics has plenty thats what I primarily use.

Their MIDI packs helped teach me fundamentals of composition.


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    #26663432 - 05/10/20 09:47 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Ive been trying to find better samples but most sound like stuff i can make by modifying the samples I have.
I have been seeking out serum presets if anyone knows of any worth while.

If anyone wants to possibly send a project back and forth and play with it each time lmk. I think that would be fun FL studios files are all I know how to work with.


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    #26663552 - 05/10/20 10:51 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah that'd be a fun idea, probably a good way to learn some tricks by looking at how other people do things. I still only have a beginning to a song though, been having a lot of trouble figuring out where to go with it.

Randomly had the idea to do something like this 'its always sunny in philadelphia' song but in a more musical way. Exclusively the 'go fuck yourselves' part.


Wish I could use the original recording but the piano would be mixed in with it


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    #26665394 - 05/11/20 08:31 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

That is made for someone to come in and do magic to.

I would need to see the final product.

I made a shitty mix of tiger kings joe exotic that will not ever see the light of day again but I had the best time making it. Laughing my ass off thuroughly.


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    #26696231 - 05/26/20 04:44 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Spitfire Audio is pretty amazing for free sample instruments: https://www.spitfireaudio.com/labs/


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    #26760553 - 06/20/20 07:55 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Here's that song I didn't know where to go with after the intro.
Constructive criticism is welcome, bearing in mind this isn't exactly polished, I have to completely re-learn mixing/mastering


p.s. thanks chronotype :thumbup:

Trying to make my first vocal heavy song atm so thought I'd post :wave2:


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    #26760674 - 06/20/20 09:03 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

You definitely have an idea of what you are doing. Mixing/ mastering are two things that each seem to have a learning curve to them. Spend lots of time sifting throughout all the good and bad information that you can on these subjects. Apply them as often as you are able, ESPECIALLY on tracks you dont plan to release. That way you may have less pressure for perfection and more of an ability to explore all the parameters of a plugin, effect, or even concept. Music is so broad most of it is learning fundamentals and then using the tools you acquire in that process to apply to the canvas of your DAW.

If you learn anything do not hesitate to leave the information here for other music producers, artists, and audiophiles.


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Re: DAW users [Re: Plain]
    #26768112 - 06/21/20 08:17 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks, that makes sense. Think I'm gonna spend a solid chunk of time just watching random fl studio tutorials/videos tonight to get me going. One thing I really hope is possible is for me to record something with my midi keyboard, but have Fl-studio convert what I recorded into piano roll so I can tinker with it.

And hey if anybody in the thread ever wants to swap .flp's I'm game

My vocal's didn't turn out so hot, was trying to do something forceful but I'm not much of a singer. My silly gibberish rap turned out pretty good on my first try though, think I'll try to develop that more tonight.

Ha, I hope I'm not hijacking your thread, I just like to talk about what I'm doing


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    #26774974 - 06/22/20 05:58 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I own a launchkey mk 2, 61 key midi keyboard and it is my favorite thing in the world. I link the parameters of serum to the controller to basically play on the virtual synth for hours of fun.

Recording on the keyboard has some latency issues for my system but like you said, with a quick touch up in piano roll and everything is sounding fine or even better than i can play since programing notes with a mouse still can actually be a handy creative tool to have.

I have a ton of files of music and only a couple people have heard them but i do plan on seeking out more feedback.

I do not have a mic or interface yet and those are my next goals so i can practice vocals and record my own sounds to sample. My goal is to build a studio with gear and instruments but now im getting sucked into modular synthesizers.

This thread is intended for all talks DAW and all things music production. So youre good.


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    #26977375 - 10/09/20 05:34 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Been getting into music again. Improvement is showing little by slow. How're y'all fairing?

I'm going to try making some electric drums, sounds surprisingly simple. Finally get some use out of that arduino that got left at my house.

Torn between going for the classic drumset design or just doing an all in one unit, like a box with multiple pads made to be played with hands instead of drumsticks. Not those tiny square pads you see on midi keyboards though, bigger than that.

Its been throwing me down an interesting rabit hole. Idk if you're familiar with 'that one guy,' a one man band where he plays this tall pipe he put strings and pickups into to play it like a standup bass, then sometimes its like he controls variables by just moving his hands in the air, like a theremin. Then he'll smack certain parts of the pipe that he's evidently installed electric drum pads into. Makes him very entertaining to watch, keeps you guessing as to what whimsical way he'll produce his next sound.

Then I keep seeing these components on the electric component sites that allows you to trigger things with a muscle sensor you put on your body. Can't quite think how I'd use it but it'd be sweet to be able to trigger effects on the drums by moving a certain muscle.


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    #26983724 - 10/13/20 05:12 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Sorry to double post but I just realized I could use my old rockband videogame drumset for this project which greatly simplifies it. I figure lots of us have those drumsets around and might want to get some use out of it.


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    #26991336 - 10/18/20 11:24 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I have been getting deep into the technology aspects myself and it even sparked an entirely new skill for me. I started teaching myself electronics and plan on building my own modular set up. Right now i am learning on software how to patch different sounds. I want to eventually build my own MIDI controllers and other electronic musical gadgets. Right now im on such a tight budget that everything is just a dream but it keeps me driven so. Circuit bending a rock band drum set would be really cool i got a yamaha dd9 i may do something with in the future if i dont just keep it as is.

Feel free to post the drum pads here when you get them built. Im very geeked about all things DIY electronic instruments.


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    #27190825 - 02/07/21 01:25 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

Revive o musicians of the shroomery. (imagine the knights of Ni demanding a shroomery rather than a shrubbery)

I come to recant me recent endevours that you may share yours weary travelers. I've decided to put DAW work on the backburner and have instead been playing at least one real instrument every day. I find having a variety of instruments helps keep my interest over the weeks, guitar bass drums and keyboards.

I also recorded a cover of Beware by Death Grips I was relatively proud of. I'm not a vocalist, even less a rapper with the animosity of death grips, but for it being my first time recording a full song of vocals I'd say it turned out pretty good. I used pantyhose stretched over a coat hanger as a pop filter, worked quite well. Definitely need to get a better mic though, You had to practically have your lips on this one to get it loud enough, couple that with accidentally grazing it with the popfilter and it got frustrating


I've asked everyone close to me to come jam with me or start a cover band for fun, but no takers. I've been considering going to craigslist for a band/jam buddy so I can really learn how to play alongside others, but it just feels risky. I'm not having some rando over so he can scope out my equipment and make plans to steal it. Perhaps I'm overly paranoid. Plus I'm also just self conscious of my relatively low skill level were I to encounter some truly skilled people

Additionally I've taken to collecting other random instruments, I got something called a tremolo harmonica. It has 2 reeds in each hole, one of which (in each hole) is slightly off tune. These produces a lovely chorus effect and the two notes will then warble/tremolo together. Been thinking about getting a jaw harp

Then my mother got me the best gift anyones ever gotten me, a freaking didgeridoo! Very unique instrument insofar as how you play it, its very new to me but I can make the basic droning tones.

I'm still debating which of the more expensive instruments to purchase next, I lean for a saxophone, or an accordion, a banjo, or something more exotic. Some bongos. Any suggestions?


Perhaps the gem of all my recent experience: I'd never really tried to play my emotions on an instrument, or if I did they were always cheerful. But I've been very depressed lately, and I consistently find that when I pick up an instrument and translate my sorrow into music it makes me feel a LOT better. Perhaps this is an elementary lesson of music, but y'all should try it, play your anger, play your fear, your sorrow. Suddenly those emotions become fun, you're just having fun playing a sad song on your guitar and singin the blues

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I have been getting deep into the technology aspects myself and it even sparked an entirely new skill for me. I started teaching myself electronics and plan on building my own modular set up. Right now i am learning on software how to patch different sounds. I want to eventually build my own MIDI controllers and other electronic musical gadgets. Right now im on such a tight budget that everything is just a dream but it keeps me driven so. Circuit bending a rock band drum set would be really cool i got a yamaha dd9 i may do something with in the future if i dont just keep it as is.

Feel free to post the drum pads here when you get them built. Im very geeked about all things DIY electronic instruments.



Getting into that aspect of things also interests me. At least I think it'd be nice to have intimate knowledge of how sound electronics work. I Found a vein a while back, think it was on instructables or on the arduino website, that was all about making midi controllers and the like. At a glance I recall it appearing simple, but I haven't soldered since high school and may be wrong.

The rockband drums still sit unfinished, a shame because it really wouldn't take much work to complete them but I haven't been this depressed since I was a teenager. I've been considering buying a retail electronic drumset but the frugal DIY'r in me protests

Most of the videos on how to make these rockband drums used needlessly complicated methods, integrating arduinos and such. Then I found this other video where the guy just plugs an unmodified drumset into his computer usb and then simply used a program that interprets signals from gaming controllers and was just able to map out his sounds that way without altering the device itself. Maybe somebody here with a little more wind in their sails could try it and report back :lol:


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Re: DAW users [Re: Psilosopherr] * 1
    #27302228 - 05/09/21 10:54 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

My vote is for Saxophone.

I'll pick one up eventually. I'm a pianist but I also dabble in drums, guitar, and bass.

If you don't have any synthesizers, that's a pretty fun way to get into electronic music production. Being able to manipulate parameters in real time is always much more exciting than virtual instruments in my experience.

Cool to see other members discussing music. Seems i'm a bit late to the party but there's not a lot of talk about this on the forums.


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    #27302326 - 05/10/21 01:53 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Keep forgetting to look at synth models, idk what I'd get. I'm makin more money nowadays so have been wanting to spoil myself with something.


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