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TheDuckMan
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First time grow Golden Teacher Log and asking for opinions.
#26524839 - 03/09/20 12:26 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hey guys, long time lurker here, first time poster, also a first time grower so forgive me if I'm a bit ignorant.
Inoculated 2 all in one grow bags that I had bought off of Amazon on Feb 26th. Yes I realize now this is not the most cost effective way to grow shrooms and I will be trying out the PF-Tek for my next attempt.
I shook (for almost 2 mins) and sterilized the syringe needle and injection points with alcohol wipes and injected 5cc's of Golden Teacher spore solution into each bag and have been doing my best to keep the temp in a range between around 74 to 78°F
Now, 12 days later one bag seems to be doing pretty well, while the other shows no signs of growth whatsoever. I'm trying not to lose hope because I have read online it can take up to 3 weeks in rare cases to show growth. So what do you guys think? Is it a dud and should I just kinda give up on it?
Regardless I'm super happy something is growing in one of the bags and this is something I'm finding enjoyment out of so give me y'alls expert opinions and show me the ropes please!
Here are some pics of my bag showing growth

Please let me know what yall think. The other one has nothing of interest to even show but if yall wanna see it I'll show you. Thank you! Happy shrooming
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Re: First time grow Golden Teacher Log and asking for opinions. [Re: TheDuckMan]
#26524893 - 03/09/20 02:01 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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From my experience, these type of deals fail more often than not. Maybe things have changed, but when I was first figuring things out (the way you are now) lots of years ago, I would see maybe 3 failures for every one of "hey look! -I think it's working!". Even though some people got a few or bit more shroomes, most peeps just got lots of mold. It looks like you are comfy with moving bags of substrate around (obviously), so next time just use a coir monotub. I think that PF tek is too labor intensive which results only in mediocre yields. If you have a way to sterilize jars (and maybe you don't, which is cool -we all start at the beginning) , that is definitely the way to go.
Welcome to the Shroomery! Lot's of interesting stuff to explore here. In your case you should probably start exploring the different teks. Lot's of smart/solid growers in these parts.
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Re: First time grow Golden Teacher Log and asking for opinions. [Re: scarabaeus]
#26525223 - 03/09/20 09:31 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thank you for your input! Yeah, I don't think I'm going to use these all in one bags ever again, it seemed like the easiest way to get into it but that DEFINITELY comes with a catch.. Whatever, I just hope this bag does okay, and if it doesn't I won't be too discouraged, I looked at some coir monotub teks and found a very promising one on this site, I'll probably get that started while I wait for this bag lol, I haven't thought much about the best way to sterilize jars, I have a big pot I was thinking I could boil them for some time and let them cool to sterilize.
Anyway, I'll post any progress (or contams that'll probably pop up) related to this grow here 
Thanks again for the help
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Re: First time grow Golden Teacher Log and asking for opinions. [Re: TheDuckMan]
#26533174 - 03/13/20 05:43 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Alright. 16 Days in and this is what my bag looks like. My other bag grew mold and had a pretty bad bacteria presence (no surprises there). I'm actually surprised the mycelium has even gotten to this point.


i'm not sure if its growing at a healthy rate or not, also, I kind of wanna mix the bag up but its not exactly at 50% yet, also does this look like healthy growth? please let me know what you guys think, thanks!
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Re: First time grow Golden Teacher Log and asking for opinions. [Re: TheDuckMan]
#26533246 - 03/13/20 06:16 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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It’s grown enough to be mixed up.
Whether it recovers or not who knows. It looks good in some spots and bacterial in others to me, but that could also be cuz I don’t use bags or straw myself.
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Re: First time grow Golden Teacher Log and asking for opinions. [Re: A.k.a]
#26533274 - 03/13/20 06:28 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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The deed is done.
Thanks for your input!
also, I love your grows! I aspire to be that good one day lol.
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Re: First time grow Golden Teacher Log and asking for opinions. [Re: TheDuckMan]
#26533451 - 03/13/20 08:25 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Lol thanks man.
It’s super easy you’ll get it in no time. My first grow was five months ago, just follow the teks and ask questions and take lots of pictures and you’ll be set.
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Re: First time grow Golden Teacher Log and asking for opinions. [Re: A.k.a]
#26543084 - 03/18/20 05:13 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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3 weeks in, Mixed the bag up almost 5 days ago.


some of this fuzz on top is making me nervous, i cant identify if this is mycelium or not. doesn't help that my camera sucks.






got me some half pint jars, some verm & brown rice, just waiting on some spores and its time to start grow #2!
Just an update, feel free to let me know what you think
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Re: First time grow Golden Teacher Log and asking for opinions. [Re: TheDuckMan]
#26543766 - 03/19/20 12:57 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hello mr. duck. The bags that show star-like, strand-like growth are looking A OK. It's called rhizomorphic growth and is the step fungus takes before it starts to form pinheads which then grow into shroomies.
I totally get how you don't have the cash right now to buy an American brand (ideally) pressure cooker. There was a time in my life where if I had enough $ to buy grains to begin with I would have eaten it before I would feed it to some shrooms lol.
Read the stuff that is here in ShroomeryLand to contemplate your next move. What I mean is that it looks like you might get some shrooms from what you got growing and then you can take spore prints which you can use down the line. In the short term, I guess it would be best to follow the advice of the vendor that sold you the bags. So far a couple of yer bags look promising.
A side note to your post, not meant for you the OP in particular, but for anyone who reads this. Decades ago before all this growing info was so ez-lee available, I pasteurized straw (nowadays peeps use coir) and always had the best success with a chop of 1 inch or smaller. Anything larger than that resulted in incomplete colonization. and eventual contams. Strw also has other problems that coir does not. But that is time best spent in another thread.
Good luck friend
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Re: First time grow Golden Teacher Log and asking for opinions. [Re: scarabaeus]
#26568072 - 03/30/20 08:18 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thank you for the advice Scarabaeus!
I will def not be using straw in future grows and plan on switching to coir instead.
A month in and its starting to fruit! i see about 4 or 5 pins total... doesn't look fully colonized to me so that is worrying, I wanted to originally use a SGFC to fruit but since its doing it earlier than i thought (and im worried its not done colonizing yet) i might just fruit it in the bag and harvest whatever spores i can get to start a PF-Tek using shoeboxes and coir for fruiting, anyway any advice in what i should be doing in this situation would be great. I'm worried about contams since it doesnt seem like a full cake yet but it wants to fruit.
also idk if this would make a difference but yesterday all day it was 70F because my GF lowered the temp in the whole apartment and i didn't realize maybe that triggered fruiting??
since it started fruiting i moved the bag beside a window, not quite in direct sunlight, but next to it.
anyway here are some pics. I'm super excited to make spore prints lol




EDIT: Also F because they are all pinning on the sides -_- is there any way i can encourage them to pin on the top instead??
Edited by TheDuckMan (03/30/20 08:23 PM)
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Re: First time grow Golden Teacher Log and asking for opinions. [Re: TheDuckMan]
#26573114 - 04/02/20 11:35 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I have decided I will make a LC out of the sexiest mushroom that grows off of this using Creamcorn's easy to follow Tek: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5874305/fpart/all/vc/1
aswell as some spore prints when their ready to do their thing, I got all the supplies ready and on hand, including a tub i plan on turning into a SGFC VERY SOON to get ready for the second flush this thing will (hopefully) have. this is a 5 pound cake, im not sure how dunking and rolling will work out for this bad boy but fuck it i guess ill give it a try. this is by far the most exciting thing i've done in a while. should have picked this hobby up a few years back!
once i get that LC up and running im gonna try this shoebox Tek for my second grow, using BRF cakes!
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26009662/fpart/1/vc/1/nt/28
here's more pictures! I didnt capture all of them, but i've counted at least 8 mushrooms/pins that are growing, with TONS of hyphal knots, especially on the top of the substrate.

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Re: First time grow Golden Teacher Log and asking for opinions. [Re: TheDuckMan]
#26582956 - 04/06/20 10:47 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hello friend! I very much would like to help you out step by step but my career is in health care, and there is this pandemic thing going on you may have heard about? (I'm joking}. I wish you the best of luck; right now I barely have time to take a shower and trim my mustash , mustouch, mustouche? You get my point! I'm saying so long to my internet friends for a while and didn't want to leave you out. Hope you get a rockin' flush. I'm outa here...
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