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Re: Cleanest Grains in 2020? [Re: gizmo1]
    #26524764 - 03/08/20 10:52 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Fair enough.


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Re: Cleanest Grains in 2020? [Re: LongBeak]
    #26524765 - 03/08/20 10:53 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

thats going to be tough to find as i dont see it on the southern states website. but i will find it.

Have you used the "Triple Crown triple cleaned premium oats?"


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Re: Cleanest Grains in 2020? [Re: LongBeak]
    #26524767 - 03/08/20 10:59 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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What sort of issues have you run into with oats? I haven't tried anything else as reference, but so far they are easy and consistent.



I mean I kinda covered it at one point in the thread.  Some batches of them are bacterial as fuck. 2 hours at 20 psi wouldn't cut it.  I've also had a batch or two come with rice weevils, though I'm not sure that's necessarily an "oat" issue.


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Re: Cleanest Grains in 2020? [Re: Inocuole]
    #26524832 - 03/09/20 12:10 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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What sort of issues have you run into with oats? I haven't tried anything else as reference, but so far they are easy and consistent.



I mean I kinda covered it at one point in the thread.  Some batches of them are bacterial as fuck. 2 hours at 20 psi wouldn't cut it.  I've also had a batch or two come with rice weevils, though I'm not sure that's necessarily an "oat" issue.



Nope just a grain issue.


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Re: Cleanest Grains in 2020? [Re: gizmo1]
    #26524845 - 03/09/20 12:34 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

9.99 for 7 lbs is expensive but it is a clean grain that is easy to use. Prepped these similar to Fooman, (also nice to see you)  the thing I like is that it hydrates nicely, but I don't rinse after the simmer. This seed will change colors when hydrated.

Kizzle did a run with it, but I think they might have been overhydrated for that go.

Also Producers Pride always seems to do ok for me. Mostly clean a little corn every once in a while. What's the price point on the Purina brand?

Here is drying fermented 7 day soaked oats.


And lastly the cheapest grain around. Deer Corn, I'm still experimenting with this one. It's a bitch to get hydrated.



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Re: Cleanest Grains in 2020? [Re: Sockadin]
    #26524875 - 03/09/20 01:16 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Deer corn's a little too starchy innit?


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Re: Cleanest Grains in 2020? [Re: Inocuole]
    #26524884 - 03/09/20 01:43 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I’m new but I read a lot, so many different opinions that I think an updated experiment is due.
Maby there has been one I didn’t see or can’t recall. I agree with the “Love it or hate it” regarding oats. I’ve see that said so many times.

I did 11 jars of MS Syringe to WBS and had no contams, it had too much corn in it for my liking as well. I may be off, but it seems like rye would be quite consistent, no? I’d like to try that as I really don’t like looking at the nasty corn.


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Re: Cleanest Grains in 2020? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26524895 - 03/09/20 02:19 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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I did 11 jars of MS Syringe to WBS and had no contams



Statistically that is just highly improbable.  Probably didn't have any serious contams.  But if you find yourself getting less than a dry ounce per quart jar of spawn, you probably have a bit of bacteria or something else going on in the mix.

And maybe that doesn't apply to you, but guaranteed, it applies to somebody.


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Re: Cleanest Grains in 2020? [Re: Inocuole]
    #26524898 - 03/09/20 02:27 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

The only time I've run into issues it was because I cut a corner. :rasta:


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Re: Cleanest Grains in 2020? [Re: Inocuole]
    #26524934 - 03/09/20 03:39 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Deer corn's a little too starchy innit?



They way I prepped that batch was hard rolling boil. I actually used my presto and put the lid on with the vent off. Got it super hot. The dumped deer corn in and left the heat on. 15 minuets until the water started to change colors and then drained and dryed.

Hydrated grains that are dry on the outside. No sticky messy clumps.


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Re: Cleanest Grains in 2020? [Re: Inocuole]
    #26525070 - 03/09/20 07:16 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Oh my bad it was late and I didn’t explain myself well. I meant to say I didn’t think that was normal, and yes I had one jar that looked bacterial. I didn’t mean to spread misinformation. I didnt mean to do that.


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Re: Cleanest Grains in 2020? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26525227 - 03/09/20 09:34 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Have you tried local natural stores?

I prefer Wheat Berries. Such as these: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hard-Red-Spring-Wheat-Berries-CHEMICAL-FREE-Non-GMO-Vacuum-Sealed-Grain-23-lbs/253540976041?hash=item3b083845a9:g:n9cAAOSwSlpb7ZyI



Got me googling.... Apparently there's an organic farm about 45 mins from me that sells 50 pound bags of HRS wheat berries for $22.  Sent them an email already, hopefully going to swing out there after work and grab some. 

Oats are $52 for 50# but they're organic food grade for making flour so they're super clean.  Grabbing a 15 pound bag for $20 with my wheat.  These are avena nuda hulless oats, anyone worked with them before?

FWIW my last few runs have been 50/50 wheat/oats with some coffee grounds added.  Seems to have sped up colonization times across the board compared to straight oats or oats with coffee.


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Re: Cleanest Grains in 2020? [Re: F-Bomb]
    #26525246 - 03/09/20 09:45 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I’ve used feed corn you can get it for free if you know where to look


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Re: Cleanest Grains in 2020? [Re: F-Bomb]
    #26525265 - 03/09/20 10:00 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Oats are $52 for 50# but they're organic food grade for making flour so they're super clean.  Grabbing a 15 pound bag for $20 with my wheat.  These are avena nuda hulless oats, anyone worked with them before?



No bit anything food grade will work pretty damn good and hulless is good because it's the hull that causes problems with oats. For that price I'd just stick with the wheat though.


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Re: Cleanest Grains in 2020? [Re: gizmo1]
    #26525280 - 03/09/20 10:09 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I love millet, it’s cheap. I just rinse, skim floaters, load in jars cover with just enough water to cover the seeds and pc 15psi 90mins and the grain absorbs all the water. I add like a teaspoon of gypsum to each jar but I ran out and started using a little wood ash instead which seems to work well.


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Re: Cleanest Grains in 2020? [Re: Smoothcat]
    #26525298 - 03/09/20 10:23 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Wheat>all other grains

Feed store wheat is 12 bucks for 50lbs and the prep is dead simple.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26326713/page/1


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Re: Cleanest Grains in 2020? [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26525345 - 03/09/20 11:13 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Wheat>all other grains

Feed store wheat is 12 bucks for 50lbs and the prep is dead simple.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26326713/page/1





Any particular brands of wheat? Sell at feed store?

Looks like it time to play with some wheat. Nice share. Ty.


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Re: Cleanest Grains in 2020? [Re: shevanel]
    #26525365 - 03/09/20 11:28 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Wheat>all other grains

Feed store wheat is 12 bucks for 50lbs and the prep is dead simple.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26326713/page/1





Any particular brands of wheat? Sell at feed store?

Looks like it time to play with some wheat. Nice share. Ty.



Whatever you got TBH.  I'm working with a bag I bought maybe 5 years ago off Amazon to grow as cat grass.  Stopped germinating but it grows fungi like a champ.


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Re: Cleanest Grains in 2020? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26525415 - 03/09/20 12:10 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Oh my bad it was late and I didn’t explain myself well. I meant to say I didn’t think that was normal, and yes I had one jar that looked bacterial. I didn’t mean to spread misinformation. I didnt mean to do that.



Dude.  Chilllll.  I'm just laying down what I know.  If you had good luck with your grows minus a little bacteria that's all good and well. :thumbup:


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Re: Cleanest Grains in 2020? [Re: Inocuole]
    #26525427 - 03/09/20 12:30 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

So what's the list look like?
Wheat
Rye
Oats
Barley
WBS
Millet
Corn feed or popcorn
Safflower Seed
Rye grass seed

What else am I missing?


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