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BLOOMBURG/SELF MADE LOL! * 1
    #26520400 - 03/06/20 10:41 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Bloomberg was born at St. Elizabeth's Hospital, in Brighton, a neighborhood of Boston, Massachusetts, on February 14, 1942, to William Henry Bloomberg (1906–1963), a bookkeeper for a dairy company,[3] and Charlotte (née Rubens) Bloomberg (1909–2011).[4][5] The Bloomberg Center at the Harvard Business School was named in William Henry's honor.[6] His family is Jewish. He is a member of the Emanu-El Temple in Manhattan.[7] Bloomberg's paternal grandfather, Alexander "Elick" Bloomberg, was a Polish Jew.[8] Bloomberg's maternal grandfather, Max Rubens, was a Lithuanian Jewish immigrant from present-day Belarus.[9][10] His maternal grandmother was born in New York to Lithuanian Jewish parents.

The family lived in Allston until Bloomberg was two years old, when they moved to Brookline, Massachusetts, for the next two years, finally settling in the Boston suburb of Medford, Massachusetts, where he lived until after he graduated from college.[11]

Bloomberg is an Eagle Scout.[12][13] He graduated from Medford High School in 1960,[14] and then attended Johns Hopkins University, where he joined the fraternity Phi Kappa Psi. In 1962, as a sophomore, he constructed the school mascot's (the blue jay's) costume.[15] He graduated in 1964 with a Bachelor of Science degree in electrical engineering. In 1966, he graduated from Harvard Business School with a Master of Business Administration.[16][17]

Bloomberg is a member of Kappa Beta Phi.[18] He wrote an autobiography, with help from Bloomberg News Editor-in-Chief Matthew Winkler, called Bloomberg by Bloomberg



What is it with the people who think these people in charge were "self made"? He had major opportunities and family that helped him along the way. Like Trump had a "small loan of a million dollars". :rolleyes: Yes, he worked hard and got his degrees, but he had the opportunities to do so, and the drive apparently. Why is it that the mainstream goal(s) in life pushed by media, TV, mags, and other forms of entertainment push these extravagant ways of living/being as the end all be all of living life? As we can plainly see there are not millions of millionaires or billionaires. There is only a hand full.

Wait, there's more than I thought, but still no that many compared to the population of the USA or the planet.


There are 2,604 billionaires in the world, according to the Wealth-X Billionaire Census 2019, and over a quarter of these ultra-high-net-worth individuals reside in the U.S. “North America was the only region to record an increase in billionaire population,” the report notes.

There are a total of 46.8 million millionaires worldwide, according to the report, and they collectively own approximately $158.3 trillion.



Quite a bit more, but still not a lot compared to the world. It's a small club and not everyone can get in, nor do some want to.


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Re: BLOOMBURG/SELF MADE LOL! [Re: tyrannicalrex] * 1
    #26520493 - 03/06/20 11:54 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

His father was a bookkeeper and his mother a stay at home mom. His grandparents migrated from Poland.

Have you ever been to Poland? These were not wealthy people

Now I dont know the guy but what I gather from this article is that his greatest asset is probably his intelligence, enabling him to get good grades and therefore moving through into higher education.

He worked at Salomon Brothers and made it to partner. You think thats easy? You think those are easy 32 hour working weeks? More like 70 hours a week and you are in constant competition with other guys trying to achieve the same positions.

He got layed off with 10 million and used that to create a multi-billion dollar business. That requires taking risk, hard work and great skill. Its fucking impressive actually.


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Re: BLOOMBURG/SELF MADE LOL! [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #26520513 - 03/06/20 12:10 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Lol the guy’s dad has a building named after him at Harvard.
He hasn’t lived in Poland.
Making billions from $10m is impressive, sure, but it ain’t no rags to riches story.

And then there’s the way he ran his first company....
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The culture of the company in the 1980s and 1990s has been compared to a fraternity, with employees bragging in the company's office about their sexual exploits.[29] The company was sued four times by female employees for sexual harassment, including one incident in which a victim claimed to have been raped.[30][31] To celebrate Bloomberg's 48th birthday, colleagues published a pamphlet entitled Portable Bloomberg: The Wit and Wisdom of Michael Bloomberg. Among various sayings that were attributed to him, several have subsequently been criticized as sexist or misogynistic.




And then there’s the outlandish shit he did when he was mayor, which can’t be summed up in a paragraph no matter how hard you try...


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Re: BLOOMBURG/SELF MADE LOL! [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #26520519 - 03/06/20 12:14 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Nope, it wasn't easy. I guess he may one of the very few who do that. I bet they had a way better life here allowing him to flourish more as well. I would love to see a lot of home pics and such to see exactly how poor they lived. Tuition was cheaper too, but so was everything else. His record is very impressive. BUT, like feldman said, it's not rags to riches, I'm sure he was very "poor".:rolleyes:

They WILL NOT let a poor person of the people for real in that office, it would drastically change the way things are done probably. There is only certain people that will get that job no matter what. It's a scam and fucked up.


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Re: BLOOMBURG/SELF MADE LOL! [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26520548 - 03/06/20 12:31 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Are you saying only the poorest of the poor people are allowed to say they worked hard?

Is getting a university degree already an unfair advantage? Serious question.


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Re: BLOOMBURG/SELF MADE LOL! [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #26520554 - 03/06/20 12:34 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Are you saying only the poorest of the poor people are allowed to say they worked hard?


No. BUT, I bet they work harder in more ways than a privileged person does.






Is getting a university degree already an unfair advantage? Serious question.




Yes. Especially a fucking Harvard degree! I bet he was a skull and boners frat fuck guy too.


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Re: BLOOMBURG/SELF MADE LOL! [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #26520556 - 03/06/20 12:35 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

No, we all agree he worked hard.

It’s the “self-made” thing that’s a stretch...

Do you think he ever lived in poverty?


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Re: BLOOMBURG/SELF MADE LOL! [Re: feldman114] * 1
    #26520592 - 03/06/20 12:56 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I think we need to define "self-made" first

If we are talking multi-billions (like Bloomberg) I think I would draw the line at upper middle class (family income $200K/year) and still call it self-made. If he came from poverty and achieved the same, it would be "self-made plus"

Going from upper middle class to millionaire I would not consider "self-made"

If the starting point is absolute poverty, I would already consider achieving upper middle class "self-made"

I dont think you would have to start at zero to be considered "self-made". It would be best "self-made" though


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Re: BLOOMBURG/SELF MADE LOL! [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #26520602 - 03/06/20 01:04 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, depends how you define self-made, I guess.

I feel like it should mean you start with nothing.
John Kehoe lived in a cabin in the woods - no electricity, no running water.
A year later he was a multi-millionaire.

Imo, that’s more impressive than going from millionaire to billionaire. But that’s just my opinion.


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    #26520636 - 03/06/20 01:24 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Yeah, depends how you define self-made, I guess.

I feel like it should mean you start with nothing.
John Kehoe lived in a cabin in the woods - no electricity, no running water.
A year later he was a multi-millionaire.


Imo, that’s more impressive than going from millionaire to billionaire. But that’s just my opinion.



Yes! I agree 100% here. That's my outlook on it as well. THAT is what I consider "self made". ANY ops had by the person no matter what that are an advantage over the common or very poor person, is an advantage. Period. IMHE.


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Re: BLOOMBURG/SELF MADE LOL! [Re: feldman114]
    #26520647 - 03/06/20 01:30 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Going from 10 million to 40 billion is an increae by factor 4000

To achieve the same percentual increase I would need to bring my meagre €200K net worth to a staggering €800.000.000

If John kelhoe increased his net worth to lets say 10 million, he would have had to start with $2500 to have a similar percentual growth


Now Im not saying Bloomberg isnt an asshole, and Im pretty sure he treated people like crap. I also know its easier to make money with money.


But aside from all that I think he achieved some pretty amazing things (as did Jeff Bezos) and the shit you give him for that is unwarranted imho


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Re: BLOOMBURG/SELF MADE LOL! [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #26520666 - 03/06/20 01:44 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I don't think it's "unwarranted". They are in the public eye and will be scrutinized mercilessly until they die. They chose this path, they get ALL that comes with it.:shrug: Fucking bezos was even MORE well off than bloomy baby.


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Re: BLOOMBURG/SELF MADE LOL! [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26520699 - 03/06/20 02:10 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I just feel that if you gonna hate on them, it should be for the right reasons :shrug:


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Re: BLOOMBURG/SELF MADE LOL! [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #26520712 - 03/06/20 02:19 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Meh, I can see your point partly, I hate on celebs too. I don't follow everything, but when I see a snippet and it reeks, I hold them accountable for those actions. You honestly think bloomburg is a fine upstanding citizen who has never fucked anyone over to get where he is and is a very good christian (whatever that means to you, it seems to mean something to a LOT of people here in USA, at least they claim it does) person, never did ANY wrong, and never did those things to ANY women? Am I innocent? fuck no! Have I done henious things? Yes, stealing mainly. Does that make me "better"? No. BUT, this person put themselves in the public eye and wants a job that is highly visible to the entire world. He deserves all he gets, good and bad.


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Re: BLOOMBURG/SELF MADE LOL! [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26520720 - 03/06/20 02:26 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah I totally agree with you (thats usually the case). He probably is a terrible human being and he fully deserves all shit poured on him. He puts himself out there as you say. he could easily have chosen a life of quiet anonimity on a faraway tropical island. But no, he wants to be mayor of New York and now president. Why anyone would ever want any of those jobs is beyond me, surely you will not have a moment of peace ever.

He is a good businessman though and achieved pretty amazing things in that regard. Most of which wasnt handed to him either. So self made billionaire and self made terrible person


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    #26520726 - 03/06/20 02:31 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Agreed, lol.:shrug:


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Re: BLOOMBURG/SELF MADE LOL! [Re: Tripsurfer] * 1
    #26520754 - 03/06/20 02:47 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

IMO the wealth growth factor is irrelevant, once you have 10mil you can make exponentially more money than someone with 10 grand.

I don't hate these people because I don't think they "earned" their wealth, I hate them precisely because they earned it by being selfish, narcissistic and greedy.

IMO no human deserves a billion dollars, and it is not possible to amass that amount of money without putting your own selfish desires above the health of the society and all the other people in it.


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Re: BLOOMBURG/SELF MADE LOL! [Re: Svetaketu]
    #26520771 - 03/06/20 02:53 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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IMO the wealth growth factor is irrelevant, once you have 10mil you can make exponentially more money than someone with 10 grand.

I don't hate these people because I don't think they "earned" their wealth, I hate them precisely because they earned it by being selfish, narcissistic and greedy.

IMO no human deserves a billion dollars, and it is not possible to amass that amount of money without putting your own selfish desires above the health of the society and all the other people in it.



Yes! Agreed 100%.


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Re: BLOOMBURG/SELF MADE LOL! [Re: tyrannicalrex] * 2
    #26520808 - 03/06/20 03:15 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Did you all hear where Brian Williams (former NBC news anchor) and some other woman were live on the air talking about how "Bloomberg spent 500 million dollars on his campaign, and there are 327 million Americans, which means he could have given 1 million dollars to each citizen and still had 173 million after that..."

Lol his and her math was just a tad off. 500 million dollars split between 327 million Americans actually comes out to $1.53 per person :lol:


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    #26520811 - 03/06/20 03:17 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

LOL, idiots!


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