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OfflineDigitalDuality
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Newbie out of the Loop.. i need help
    #2651994 - 05/08/04 01:12 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

anyways..

I haven't done anything except nicotine, caffine, and alcohol..for 8 years.

And needless to say i'm bored. I no longer have any friends that use anything whatsoever. Soo i have a few questions.

I found a online company that sells organics.. and i have no idea how safe it is to purchase through the net.

That being said, when i did use drugs, it was always "a friend had it" and i just purchased and used.. I never did any cultivation or anything.

So i'm interested in..
Amanita Muscaria--Fly Agaric Mushrooms 114g lower grade siberian
Salvia divinorum 10x Extract 1 gram Standarized Extract

If i were to purchase these.. would i need to do anything to them?

It's site linked through.. either the Shroomery or Ovegrow.. i can't remember... any help would be appreciate it.. as basic as it maybe.


Edited by DigitalDuality (05/08/04 01:14 AM)


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Re: Newbie out of the Loop.. i need help [Re: DigitalDuality]
    #2652009 - 05/08/04 01:16 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

you bored cuz ur bored or are you just ready to "step up" curiosity and experience something new?

Not to get you off your original topic or anything.....


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Re: Newbie out of the Loop.. i need help [Re: 0xYg3n]
    #2652014 - 05/08/04 01:17 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

it's both honestly..


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Re: Newbie out of the Loop.. i need help [Re: DigitalDuality]
    #2652201 - 05/08/04 02:05 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

where do you live?


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Re: Newbie out of the Loop.. i need help [Re: 0xYg3n]
    #2652225 - 05/08/04 02:09 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Georgia.


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Re: Newbie out of the Loop.. i need help - both are teachers [Re: DigitalDuality]
    #2652755 - 05/08/04 08:24 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I have a huge preference for salvia as a teacher plant.
though I love shroom, paticularly cubensis.
the particular mushroom you ordered I have no experience with.

the saliva experiment will take little time
2 hours of your life beginning with 6 minutes that will astonish you and may reshape your personality. after this 2 hours you will be refreshed for days - salvia is a huge tonic, you may quit vices from improved perspective etc.

the mushroom will take more time/commitment from you directly - maybe 10 hours during which 2 may be very intense, some body load is expected so afterwards some recovery will be involved - it may have lasting impact on your personality.

read about salvia at www.sagewisdom.org


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Re: Newbie out of the Loop.. i need help [Re: DigitalDuality]
    #2652855 - 05/08/04 10:21 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I dont know anything about amanitas, but If you want to dabble in salvia, you need to do research man. Constant, constant research. Read every thread you can. Prepare yourself, because its a very.... forceful(?) experience? Disorienting I guess. But the jist of it is, if you're not prepared, you will be tripping AND paniced :wink:

Heres the two threads the sparked my intrest in the plant.
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[url=http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=2419164&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&fpart=all&vc=1]and Is salvia fun?


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Re: Newbie out of the Loop.. i need help [Re: DigitalDuality]
    #2652919 - 05/08/04 11:25 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Amantias I have had no experience with, but from talking with people who have, I would say it is not really that nice of an experience, certainly not "entheogenic" in any sense...

Salvia.... well, my personal opinion is that it is worthless. it is weird, alien, intense, disorienting - and I personally have not gained anything from my numerous "break-throughs" with salvia. for me, salvia is 5 minutes of falling deep into a black hole, forgetting everything about everything, and then seeing strange and alien visions that don't relate to anything... then 10 minutes of coming back feeling a bit stoned and disoriented... then no matter how much i meditate upon the experience, i feel no connections developing.

My recommendation would be grow/hunt for some psilocybin mushrooms, assuming that is legal to do :smile:


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Re: Newbie out of the Loop.. i need help [Re: HarveyWalbanger]
    #2653025 - 05/08/04 12:25 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

... you say if not prepared.
yes do prepare with the even minded information that is at www.sagewisdom.org ( certainly not by getting all tense with other peoples' neuroses )
but real preparation for salvia (and all other entheogens for that matter) is to practice relaxing from different positions - in different life situations:
you can relax more when typing, when eating, when lying down etc.
you can relax when looking at a picture of war, and let go of your tensions too when looking at advertising with sexy girls.
if you can let go of tension (attachments) salvia is a supreme teacher plant
if you are only interested it for a ride, you will get one but you may not want to repeat it.


Edited by redgreenvines (05/08/04 12:27 PM)


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Re: Newbie out of the Loop.. i need help [Re: redgreenvines]
    #2662948 - 05/11/04 01:48 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

>>when i did use drugs, it was always "a friend had it"

What is "it"??


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Re: Newbie out of the Loop.. i need help [Re: Legoulash]
    #2663432 - 05/11/04 03:36 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Ive had several experiences with salvia, the firs which i thought was fairly crazy. All of my other experiences with salvia have not been as rewarding. I never really seem to get blasted away like everyone has said just a slight mind fuck, nothing to intense though. Dont know what my problem is but the 10x just doesnt seem to do it for me. Im going to experiment with higher extractions but dont know how successful im going to be.


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