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Re: what would it take to rid you of the belief that time is passing? [Re: thealienthatategod]
    #26516522 - 03/04/20 01:30 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Personally, I stopped believing time was passing when I realized I had the same experience as my mom's twin sister (by DNA, my mom.)

She saw her husband who was across the world standing in front of her for a few seconds, completely sober.

When I was about 8, I saw what I thought was my dog eating out of the food bowl in my room, until I realized my dog was across the room. I looked over quickly, then back to see that "ghost" gone. Thinking back to it later, it looked like the first dog I ever had.

The conclusion of time not existing comes from my aunt's belief on the subject. The way she explains it, it makes sense.

Of course, my mind is open to all possibilities & I don't take this as the full answer, or the correct answer for that fact. Literally, anything is possible.


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Re: what would it take to rid you of the belief that time is passing? [Re: faerie] * 1
    #26519380 - 03/05/20 07:07 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

"The conclusion of time not existing comes from my aunt's belief on the subject. The way she explains it, it makes sense."

Ok...and how is aging or simply stubbing your toe, or any cause & effect event explained?


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Re: what would it take to rid you of the belief that time is passing? [Re: laughingdog]
    #26519384 - 03/05/20 07:09 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

You can attempt to explain anything, and the probability of it being true is still 1/10000, even science. Nobody really knows what the fuck is going on. Just guesses.


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Re: what would it take to rid you of the belief that time is passing? [Re: thealienthatategod] * 2
    #26519387 - 03/05/20 07:11 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

If I sit on the porch on a sunny day then my belief in time desists.


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Re: what would it take to rid you of the belief that time is passing? [Re: ChRnZN] * 1
    #26520401 - 03/06/20 10:42 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

If i am tripping hard sometimes i will enter a state where it seems time does not exist anymore.

A bunch of weird stuff will happen like electronics malfunctioning and this feeling that i have to will reality to be normal, like really focus on stuff to make the next moment happen somewhat normally.

Ive had the strangest perceptions in this state, things like we are all just in some perpetual hypnosis and think things are 'normal' but in reality (the tripped out no time reality) we are just unaware cattle, hoarded for some higher life forms pleasure/food, playing in a fake reality they created and hold the keys too.
Its a terrifying feeling which can happen if i dont have the perfect setting and am able to do something I KNOW will rehypnotize me... like watch an old movie or listen to some music i know exists.
One of the scariest trips i had was when i got puddled at a festival (not the type of festival where you camp, just different artists playing from like noon till midnight throughout the weekend) everything actually started off great...then i hit a nitrous balloon and had an out of body experience, felt like i was floating really high above everyone and slowly floated back down. Things were still cool, but i began to notice something off about everything.
So decided to walk around the festival grounds with my best friend at the time. We go through this huge waterfall thing that completely soaks me and when i emerge from the water on the other side, i got this weird sense..i could feel anxiety creep up when i was previously uninhibited, and i tried to ignore it but as i walked through the crowd, i began seeing literal zombies, they had a dull energy and seemed to be mindlessly walking , bumping into each other...some people had golden auras that the zombies bubbled around in the crowd as they walked, my friend and i had one of these and the crowd just seemed to bubble around us as well..
I felt a soul level fear creep up but, knowing i was on shit tons of acid, decided i was just tripping and sought some reassurance from my friend.
"Dude are you seeing what i am seeing?" I said, hoping he would respond with some worldly answer like "ya hot girls everywhere!" Or "ya snoop dog up ahead!".
Instead, he replies "oh you mean the zombies?"
To which i reply "dude you see them too? I cant handle this i cant believe this is happening..."
The fear nearly took over and i almost had a full blown panic attack.
As the fear grew, my golden aura shrank, and some of the zombies(people)seemed to be bumping into me way more. I did some breathing exercises i learned to help stay calm, and the aura expanded.
a As this was happening, as i wrestled with my consciousness to stay calm in the face of this unknown reality my friend says something a long the lines of,
"well they dont seem to be trying to hurt us or anyone, but uh where are we even going?"
It was like we were walking in some infinite loop with no destination, like a high-tech hamster wheel for unaware consciousness.

i kept wondering when we would get to our destination so i could get out of the zombie crowd and steer my trip to happier waters. Then he asks me this and all of a sudden i dont have any clue where we were going either and i began to notice it seemed like i kept passing the same trees and booths, and the music was so weird and seemed to transition endlessly and perfectly as we walked , unlike anything i remember hearing since.
  At this point, the fear began to win the fight for my consciousness. I somehow lost my friend and did not even realize it, it was like he disappeared and all i could see was zombies, bumping into each other, moaning. I saw armed guards surrounding the crowd on the other side of a fence.
There was a slight opening (was one of those fences that you stand and connect together) where the fence wasnt connected, so i make my way from the crowd to the fence and slide through the opening.
Immediately , event staff stops me, and tells me i need to return.
This is where things get even weirder. In the sky i could see multiple HUGE saucer UFOs hovering overhead and all around. The dude that stops me has a constantly morphing face.
I try to play it cool and say "na man its okay im just leaving, thats okay right?"
"You cant leave this way. Go back to festival."
The zombies are still churning.
"Why cant i leave this way?"
I can plainly see a road not even a block away, it just does not make sense to me why he will not let me go.
We argue for a bit more. In my half panicked tripping state, i just couldnt understand why i could not simply walk away, who cares if it wasnt a "designated" exit. I am a human with rights god damn it!!
I attempt to explain this further to the dude. "Im not going back in there. I am a human being. I can walk away if i want to..the other side of this fence is public property and i have a RIGHT to walk on it as i please!!"
So the guy calls some actual police over. I could see that i had to play the rest of this interaction right or i could end up totally screwed.
I had this dual perception where i understood i was tripping and that there were real consequences to my actions, yet also there was this hidden reality going on that i could plainly see and that i refused to partake in.
The cop basically tells me to get back to the festival grounds or he would arrest me.
I spout off something about being a human being with rights again...the cop grabs my hand and pulls out his cuffs.
Time slows, not in a passing sense, literally everyone actually began moving in very slow motion. All of a sudden, I felt like i was in control of my immediate reality to a degree i hadnt thought possible.
It was like multiple choice reality or something.
This gave me huge confidence. I realized i needed to quit freaking out, find my friend, and just stay confident even amongst all the horror, otherwise i was doomed to go to jail (i thought literal hell).

The cop puts one of my hands in the cuffs and tries to turn me around and arrest me. With my newfound awareness, i stopped that reality dead in its tracks through sheer belief that i could. As he tries to pull my arms together, i said
"No"
And i turned back around slowly moving my arms back apart and faced him. 
"Im just going to sit down on this curb here, and wait for my friend. Okay?"
I overhear some onlooker say "he thinks he superman" or some thing like that as i literally removed the cuff from my wrist and simply sat down on a street curb. I had no idea where my phone was, nor where my friend was but i felt so condident that i was going to make what i wanted to happen, happen.
I felt like a magician.
I wanted to call my friend and not knowing his phone number nor having a phone would stop me.
Next thing i know, an ambulance arrives and paramedics come over. I have no idea what happened to the cop or the original event staff dude.
i think because i wasnt actively trying to leave anymore nor was i ever loud or violent, they probably just realized i wasnt a major threat and called an ambulance over to make sure i wasnt overdosing on whatever drugs i took.
In my tripped out state, it all seemed to happen at once. Event staff/cop/or paramedic, take your pick, is what it seemed like. I picked paramedic.
"Listen man, idk what happened but i took a lot of acid and honestly i am freaking out. I cant go back in there alone. I need to find my friend, please help."
I once again thought i "willed" this into reality , next thing i know, the paramedic hands me a phone and my friend was on the other line.
As im explaining whats going on, him and his girlfriend popped up out of the crowd and rescued me. Also around this time, event staff realizes none of us have wristbands and escort us out of the concert (we did sneak in)..literally was like a 30 second walk from where i was. As we walked through the crowd, everyone returned to normal, and it seemed like the infinite treadmill i was on had dissolved into actual reality.
The whole thing still doesnt make much sense but when i think about "time not existing" im always brought back to this trip...
Similar things have happened other times but this one was so blatantly weird that i had to share.


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Re: what would it take to rid you of the belief that time is passing? [Re: hTx]
    #26520404 - 03/06/20 10:44 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Time is all we have and it doesn't fucking exist. Stay chubby


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Re: what would it take to rid you of the belief that time is passing? [Re: ChRnZN]
    #26521069 - 03/06/20 06:06 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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ChRnZN said:
If I sit on the porch on a sunny day then my belief in time desists.




Einstein says it becomes apparent sitting on a hot stove.  I could buy that.  Movement and change are happening.  Any sense of coherency will produce a conception of then, now, and later.  Memory, thought, even the senses of the body contributes.  Time is like a recording.


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Re: what would it take to rid you of the belief that time is passing? [Re: Yellow Pants]
    #26521942 - 03/07/20 09:43 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

some views of time's effects can be like a recording, especially if you stream events. (eg video record or audio record on a device).

our minds retain impressions of our experiences and the linkage between them is instant, but we can reconstruct a sense of time in memories by how memories in succession are different.

we have an ability to determine succession, but it is easily disrupted when the resonance of any moment of experience  is extended.


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Re: what would it take to rid you of the belief that time is passing? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26523656 - 03/08/20 09:43 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

later or now, if someone were to kill time, then would they live forever?


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Re: what would it take to rid you of the belief that time is passing? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26524137 - 03/08/20 03:32 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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redgreenvines said:
some views of time's effects can be like a recording, especially if you stream events. (eg video record or audio record on a device).

our minds retain impressions of our experiences and the linkage between them is instant, but we can reconstruct a sense of time in memories by how memories in succession are different.

we have an ability to determine succession, but it is easily disrupted when the resonance of any moment of experience  is extended.




Resonance as in intensity ? Sitting on a stove top would bring the mind into the eternal now.  Being chased by a bear on the verge of starvation should definitely disrupt the mental associations.

I do think regular, less savage experiences can also bring the present into view.  Standard meditation, things of interest, and whatever else.


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Re: what would it take to rid you of the belief that time is passing? [Re: thealienthatategod]
    #26524175 - 03/08/20 03:52 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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later or now, if someone were to kill time, then would they live forever?




I think so, even when they die, it’s hard to argue that something as absolute (if that’s the right word) would be ruined simply because they dead.  Is now a function of ourself or something we tap into ?


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