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Re: First-Time Brown Rice Flour TEK Question / Pic [Re: BigSkyMind]
#26469365 - 02/04/20 09:53 PM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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I wouldnt recommend straw. Coir is much better.
And throw out the trich cake. It happens sometimes 
Also, make sure your SGFC is moist, not wet and not dry.
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Re: First-Time Brown Rice Flour TEK Question / Pic [Re: A.k.a]
#26469404 - 02/04/20 10:34 PM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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I've read several of Shoebox teks and none seem to apply to my situation, with two BRF cakes (one with some mold on it) that I want to mix with coir and place in a shoebox. I also don't want to buy a whole bunch of new things--I've already bought a digital scale, food dehydrator, heating mat, coffee grinder, space heater, plus all the other stuff the PF tek requires--spores, SGFC, etc.
So, I'm just going to follow your simple instructions below, which are simple, very simple. I don't have much hope for these cakes anyway.
I'm planning to repeat the whole BRF Tek process with another five jars and hopefully get a better result this time. From researching this site I think where it went wrong was the colonization was way too slow because ambient temps weren't high enough; so much time had passed beyond what was described as normal in EM666's tutorial that I opted to transfer them to the SGFC too soon, before the jars were fully colonized and consolidated.
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A.k.a said: Just read shoebox teks there’s a few.
All you do it hydrate the coir then break up the cakes as much as possible and mix them in, then level it out and put another thin layer of coir on top.
Then put the lid on and wait
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Edited by BigSkyMind (02/04/20 10:36 PM)
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Re: First-Time Brown Rice Flour TEK Question / Pic [Re: BigSkyMind]
#26469412 - 02/04/20 10:41 PM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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Do not use the moldy one, it’ll insta kill the tub.
Whatever you end up doing just use about twice as much coir. Maybe three times if you’re feeling lucky.
The heating mat will prob hurt more than anything.
I feel you though I kept buying more and more shit lol, you can use literally anything for a container and just put foil over the top.
And yeah from what I’ve seen fruiting a partially colonized cake won’t end well.
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Re: First-Time Brown Rice Flour TEK Question / Pic [Re: A.k.a]
#26478744 - 02/10/20 03:12 PM (4 years, 6 days ago) |
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I've finally gotten coir, and shoebox. Question re: the following coir tek, which I'm using as a guide: It says "1/6 coir by weight 5/6 water by weight 0/6 coffee 0/6 vermiculite."
I understand the water-to-coir ratio, but what possible meaning does "0/6 coffee and 0/6 vermiculite" have? I'm no math whiz, but in my calculus, 0/6 = 0, nada. So why mention coffee? or vermiculite? Does the mix need coffee or not, and if so, how much?
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24077162/fpart/all/vc/1
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A.k.a said: Do not use the moldy one, it’ll insta kill the tub.
Whatever you end up doing just use about twice as much coir. Maybe three times if you’re feeling lucky.
The heating mat will prob hurt more than anything.
I feel you though I kept buying more and more shit lol, you can use literally anything for a container and just put foil over the top.
And yeah from what I’ve seen fruiting a partially colonized cake won’t end well.
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Re: First-Time Brown Rice Flour TEK Question / Pic [Re: BigSkyMind]
#26478830 - 02/10/20 03:55 PM (4 years, 6 days ago) |
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Number 3 is toast. Definitely some mold growing in it
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Re: First-Time Brown Rice Flour TEK Question / Pic [Re: Sockadin]
#26479262 - 02/10/20 08:33 PM (4 years, 6 days ago) |
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Another question: I’m planning to inoculate another five jars of BRF soon. Can I reuse the perlite in the SGFC? Do I need to disinfect it, or throw it out entirely?
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Re: First-Time Brown Rice Flour TEK Question / Pic [Re: BigSkyMind]
#26479269 - 02/10/20 08:38 PM (4 years, 6 days ago) |
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I like to boil mine, but not a necessity because unless you had something nutritious land on it there is zero chances of growing contamination on it. Also when you are at that point in the process your are basically fruiting in open air and if fully colonized the cakes will not allow a contamination to take hold.
You could run really hot bathwater and just rinse it in your SGFC.
BTW I like the apron in one of the pictures.
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Re: First-Time Brown Rice Flour TEK Question / Pic [Re: BigSkyMind]
#26479345 - 02/10/20 09:59 PM (4 years, 6 days ago) |
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I just rinse my perlite in a bunch of water
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Re: First-Time Brown Rice Flour TEK Question / Pic [Re: Sockadin]
#26480640 - 02/11/20 04:39 PM (4 years, 5 days ago) |
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Thanks. I’ll try the hot bathwater. As for the apron, I made it myself. Or, at any rate, I added the lace trim to an otherwise plain apron.
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Sockadin said: I like to boil mine, but not a necessity because unless you had something nutritious land on it there is zero chances of growing contamination on it. Also when you are at that point in the process your are basically fruiting in open air and if fully colonized the cakes will not allow a contamination to take hold.
You could run really hot bathwater and just rinse it in your SGFC.
BTW I like the apron in one of the pictures.
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Re: First-Time Brown Rice Flour TEK Question / Pic [Re: BigSkyMind]
#26480712 - 02/11/20 05:34 PM (4 years, 5 days ago) |
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Looks dope!
Yeah to the CVG I usually eyeball it at this point so I'm not going to give good information on that topic. At some point withs subs you get so use to it you stop measuring things and it's only eyeball. But I always measure everything else, BRF mixtures and Agar when you start that process. Measurements are important.
So my coir... Chunk of a brick. Add hot water till it looks right couple of handfuls of vermiculite. I don't use coffee or anything else because you will HAVE to Sterilize it. I do not care what anyone else says coffee in your sub means you need to Sterilize it.
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Re: First-Time Brown Rice Flour TEK Question / Pic [Re: Sockadin]
#26482312 - 02/12/20 04:49 PM (4 years, 4 days ago) |
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Thank you for your information. I’m going to try to get this stuff mixed tomorrow afternoon. Thought it was going to be able to be done today, but I was overwhelmed by a tyranny of errands. I hope the mycelium in the cake is still good.
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Sockadin said: Looks dope!
Yeah to the CVG I usually eyeball it at this point so I'm not going to give good information on that topic. At some point withs subs you get so use to it you stop measuring things and it's only eyeball. But I always measure everything else, BRF mixtures and Agar when you start that process. Measurements are important.
So my coir... Chunk of a brick. Add hot water till it looks right couple of handfuls of vermiculite. I don't use coffee or anything else because you will HAVE to Sterilize it. I do not care what anyone else says coffee in your sub means you need to Sterilize it.
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Re: First-Time Brown Rice Flour TEK Question / Pic [Re: BigSkyMind] 1
#26487375 - 02/15/20 05:06 PM (4 years, 1 day ago) |
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Okay, about 48 hours ago I mixed 3.6 oz. coir with 18 oz. boiling water, mixed and let it sit for 15 minutes. Then I mixed in two handfuls of vermiculite. I broke up the sole remaining good BRF cake I had and mixed it in, after it had cooled down about 15 - 20 minutes. Then I put the mixture into a plastic shoebox. I'd separated out about a cup or more of the coir+verm mix to put on top, and I put that on the top layer. I did pat it down but very lightly. Since then I've kept the lid on, unlatched, and kept it under light in an approximate 12 on 12 off cycle. Questions: Anything more I should be doing? Should I take the lid off? Does it need overhead grow light or should I leave that off?
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Re: First-Time Brown Rice Flour TEK Question / Pic [Re: BigSkyMind]
#26487429 - 02/15/20 05:54 PM (4 years, 1 day ago) |
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I'm sure it's fine, but I usually let my CVG cool longer before adding cakes or spawn. So I'm old school and apparently the new school of thought is to put it in 12/12 and let it start to fruit?
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Re: First-Time Brown Rice Flour TEK Question / Pic [Re: Sockadin]
#26487475 - 02/15/20 06:25 PM (4 years, 1 day ago) |
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Yeah, I wondered about whether I should let it cool longer. And, I’m not using gypsum.
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Re: First-Time Brown Rice Flour TEK Question / Pic [Re: BigSkyMind]
#26487488 - 02/15/20 06:32 PM (4 years, 1 day ago) |
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Not sure if mycelium can handle high temps. I woukd think 90F is around the safe limit.
Once in the shoebox, u just wait and check on it once a day, and spray water if needed. But dont soak it. Just a light misting.
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Re: First-Time Brown Rice Flour TEK Question / Pic [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26487535 - 02/15/20 07:14 PM (4 years, 1 day ago) |
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I never use gypsm it's just a PH stabilizer.
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Re: First-Time Brown Rice Flour TEK Question / Pic [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26488621 - 02/16/20 03:49 PM (4 years, 13 hours ago) |
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Here’s a pic I took today, almost 72 hours after setting the box up. I notice A couple areas of white fuzziness. I haven’t felt the need to spray it yet. I’ve seen signs of condensation on the inside and top of the box.

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LogicaL Chaos said: Not sure if mycelium can handle high temps. I woukd think 90F is around the safe limit.
Once in the shoebox, u just wait and check on it once a day, and spray water if needed. But dont soak it. Just a light misting.
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LogicaL Chaos said: Not sure if mycelium can handle high temps. I woukd think 90F is around the safe limit.
Once in the shoebox, u just wait and check on it once a day, and spray water if needed. But dont soak it. Just a light misting.
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Re: First-Time Brown Rice Flour TEK Question / Pic [Re: BigSkyMind]
#26488701 - 02/16/20 04:53 PM (4 years, 12 hours ago) |
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You shouldn't be spraying that at all fyi.
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Re: First-Time Brown Rice Flour TEK Question / Pic [Re: mushboy]
#26490220 - 02/17/20 02:57 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ok, thanks, good to know.
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Re: First-Time Brown Rice Flour TEK Question / Pic [Re: BigSkyMind] 1
#26519291 - 03/05/20 06:28 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Three & a half weeks ago I put up this shoebox of coir, verm. and the sole remaining uncontaminated BRF cake. Until about a week ago I'd maintained the temp at 70 - 75 degrees in the room, and then I started overloading a circuit repeatedly due to the space heater, so I stopped using it. Nothing appeared to be happening with this box anyway. The ambient temp is usu. about 59 - 67 F in there since then.
I have not misted this box at all. There has always been signs of condensation inside the side of the box.
Is it time to throw this away? I'm seeing a sign of what could be mold on some mycelium and nothing seems to be happening with this anyway. I'm SO discouraged with all my shroom growing efforts since November, I just need to vent. Why did I think shroom growing would be easy? Will have to give up further efforts until mid-April because I'm going out of town for about three nights in April.
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Edited by BigSkyMind (03/05/20 06:30 PM)
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