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OfflineSurf707
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First Grow Journal : Monotub * 2
    #26518532 - 03/05/20 12:10 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Hey, everyone. This is my first time growing. Any pointers are appreciated!!!

So I started this February 27th with agar dishes. I made three different strengths of agar using Brown Rice Flour using BODs tek. In the pic it shows Malt extract but I opted out of this. I had gotten some Penis Envy and Jedi Mind Fuck. I transferred in front of a flow hood I built and used a cork hole borer. I also pressure cooked some oats and used the water in my second batch of agar. I let the oats sit for 24 hours in water first. I noticed some hulls cracking so I think I went a little too long in the pressure cooker (2 hours). The second batch of agar is a more cyan ish color.

I started noticing growth on the third day for the agar. I think my room was a bit too cold (low 60s) because growth was slow. I put them in a 70ish degree room and overnight growth really took off. I ordered an incubator and that’s coming tomorrow so I’ll post pics this weekend.

I used agar wedges in my oats in hope of a G2G transfer soon. I had some questions though:

My dishes are having a lot of condensation in them, even though I poured them at 125 degrees. I also flip them upside down because it’s said to stop condensation, although that didn’t help. Any insight?

In the pic with the agar wedge in the jar, did I use too small of a piece? Kinda just winged it.

I made about 28 jars of oats, they’re drying on the table. I’m considering buying a bakers rack with 20 shelves for them to dry since I intend on doing ten tubs once I get the hang of it. How do my oats look? I think I cooked them for too long.

I also need to practice how much agar to pour. I believe i did it too much. Hmm, I’m totally stoned and had a bunch of other questions but I’ll bring them up as they come! Thanks everyone for the help!

Also my bad all the pics are lumped together. It’s difficult on my phone to piece them out, especially during my break :-p.



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Re: First Grow Journal : Monotub [Re: Surf707]
    #26522001 - 03/07/20 10:16 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Just got an incubator for the dishes and jars



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Re: First Grow Journal : Monotub [Re: Surf707]
    #26522082 - 03/07/20 11:25 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Looking good so far.

Next time use less oats per jar, helps with the shake at 30%. I usually fill halfway and then shake the jar after the PC cycle to distribute the grains.

Wedges in the transfer look a little bigger than I use, most people say 1 grain of rice size. I do about the size of my scalpel blade tip.

The oats look really good to me. There will be some hulls split anytime you boil grains, but they look plump and dry on the outside.  Nice work so far.


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Re: First Grow Journal : Monotub [Re: Sockadin]
    #26522579 - 03/07/20 05:44 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

So I took a few agar pics. The Jedi mind’s both appear to be spreading outward in what appears to be a very fluffy white. Is this normal? I only ask this because the penis envy are growing it what appears to be obvious lines reaching outward. You can see it on the pics.



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Re: First Grow Journal : Monotub [Re: Surf707]
    #26522686 - 03/07/20 06:53 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I fill my jars up about that much, and you can't "shake" at 30%. What you have to do is bang them on a tire or a pillow covering the edge of a piece of furniture to break them up. Not a big deal.


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Re: First Grow Journal : Monotub [Re: LongBeak]
    #26526101 - 03/09/20 08:17 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Just some updates. I’m seeing some rhizomorphic growth on some plates. Still the Jedi is growing out in a fluffy even growth. I’m going to try transferring tomorrow onto new dishes. I used the same technique for the envy’s and they seem to be doing fine so I’m hoping it’s just the way it grows.

I shook one of my jars that was in the incubator since it was about 30% colonized. Any thoughts on how they look? I’m definitely noticing quicker growth in the incubator as opposed to room temp.



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Re: First Grow Journal : Monotub [Re: Surf707]
    #26526188 - 03/09/20 09:09 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

All the extra parafilm is driving me crazy.. looks like it's coming along nicely tho

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Re: First Grow Journal : Monotub [Re: Mr Solo Dolo]
    #26527832 - 03/10/20 05:33 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

This is one of the jedis. Shook last night at 30% and it totally recolonized super fast. Since it hasn’t really been cleaned up in regards to clone selection, does this look normal. It’s pretty fluffy.
Penis envy appears to be colonizing much slower. I’d say it would take another week for it to get to the point the Jedi was at as of last night. I have maybe 10% colonization.



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Re: First Grow Journal : Monotub [Re: Surf707]
    #26528042 - 03/10/20 07:26 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

So you’re saying you went from spores to this in less than 2 weeks on your first grow, and you have a flowhood. 

I’m having some trouble with the facts here even in the best of conditions.


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Re: First Grow Journal : Monotub [Re: SynKyd]
    #26528075 - 03/10/20 07:45 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I think you got a case of the moldys.


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Re: First Grow Journal : Monotub [Re: Sockadin]
    #26528292 - 03/10/20 10:31 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Sockadin said:
I think you got a case of the moldys.




:whathesaid: Def in that last pic of that jar


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Re: First Grow Journal : Monotub [Re: SynKyd]
    #26528479 - 03/11/20 04:12 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

SinysterKyd said:
So you’re saying you went from spores to this in less than 2 weeks on your first grow, and you have a flowhood. 

I’m having some trouble with the facts here even in the best of conditions.




These were from agar dishes. I bought Two colonized dishes because I didn’t wanna play the genetic lottery with multi spores. I documented my process on the transfer of dishes to grain up top, including pics of the wedge transfers to other dishes and into the quart jar. Side note, I have a friend who inoculated some jars on the same date as me with some Amazonian multi spores and is just starting to notice the littlest bit of growth.

I don’t have my paper journal in front of me but from memory I sterilized and transferred into the quart jars, I believe, March 2nd or 3rd. So about 8 days. I also read that  contamination is one of the hardest things for new growers so I decided to build a flow hood and get things off too a good start. Apparently it didn’t work out since it’s moldy 😤


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Re: First Grow Journal : Monotub [Re: Surf707]
    #26528500 - 03/11/20 04:52 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah it’s definitely not easy to recognize clean when you first start.  Some of your original agar pics look like they might have condensation OR some fluffy mold on top, the one labeled JMF is suspect in hindsight.  Make a ton of plates now that you have a flow hood, you’ll figure it out.  Seems like you have the right ideas overall.  :cheers:


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Re: First Grow Journal : Monotub [Re: SynKyd]
    #26528510 - 03/11/20 05:05 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I had a TON of moisture. I thought I had poured it at 120 degrees but it was a sketchy baking thermometer. I think the JMF isn’t the best of genetics. I made six plates of the JMF. All became extremely fluffy and didn’t have any good points to clone off of compared to the 14 dishes of Penis envy (only 2 displaying anything clone worthy). I’m not sure if the condensation, which I had a bunch of, played any effect in this. I tried flipping the dishes upside down, but it didn’t help at all.

Also important to note you can’t pressure cook plastic Petri dishes. lol.


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Re: First Grow Journal : Monotub [Re: Surf707]
    #26530006 - 03/11/20 10:06 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Just some updates. Last ones definitely mold





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Re: First Grow Journal : Monotub [Re: Surf707]
    #26534735 - 03/14/20 12:37 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Just an update. So my JMF finished yesterday. Gonna attempt a g2g just to experiment. These are the agar pics. As you can see the penis envy is displaying noticeable rhizo growth. The JMF flattened out when I didn’t stack it up (it was In the middle of the stack). Condensation also decreased. Making some more dishes tonight to start selecting.



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Re: First Grow Journal : Monotub [Re: Surf707]
    #26539679 - 03/16/20 11:28 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

So I did a light malt extract agar last night and attempted a grain to grain transfer of two different jars of the JMF.

Definitely like the clarity of the LME. All of the JMF’s are displaying cottony growth. But I went back to my first plate of it, what was once extremely fluffy completely flattened out. Condensation also went away.



Here’s two pics of the most recent JMF agar samples:




Here’s two of the JMF after 24 hours from a g2g:



Finally this is the Penis envy taking its time. Put into the jar on 3/4 ish? Sorry don’t have my journal in front of me. Is it usual for this to take this much longer than other cubes? All of my other envy jars seem to be in the same stage of colonization.


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Re: First Grow Journal : Monotub [Re: Surf707]
    #26539943 - 03/17/20 05:00 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

One white hand, one black hand. Nice.


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Re: First Grow Journal : Monotub [Re: Thedenthead]
    #26540008 - 03/17/20 05:48 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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One white hand, one black hand. Nice.




You know you found the right girl when she’s hands on helping you learn and grow mushrooms 😁


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Re: First Grow Journal : Monotub [Re: Surf707]
    #26566367 - 03/30/20 01:16 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Just an update. Started having the substrate fully colonize from 3/21 and 3/22. I was able to throw one into a Monotub tonight. I’m doing four more tomorrow. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

I tried getting the surface area as even as possible and realized that my holes aren’t aligned perfectly.
Also the two bags that appear really dark I soaked in a weak coffee while hydrating just to see if it played a factor. Waiting on some gypsum once this corona virus stops screwing up all my mycology deliveries.

Substrate is coir 650g with 4 quarts water. This led me to field capacity using eco earth coir. Each bag contains 7 quarts at 210g dry weight a court. Plus two quarts of vermiculite mixed in at a total of 160 g. Bringing the total dry weight to 2280g. (Just to see how my BE is gonna come in).



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