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    #26510739 - 03/01/20 03:38 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

So I was gifted a gram of DMT at a private party last year. I was only smoking little bits here and there. I’ve had a lot of LSD and mushroom trips and they’ve definitely helped me prepare for this but they weren’t my main source of comfort..

I got a new torch for agar and such, and took a small hit.. put a solid amount in my pipe, got the heat perfect this hit and everything changed. Honestly, I wasn’t ready for it. I immediately knew I broke through, and holy shit. I couldn’t do anything but control my breathing. I tried to enjoy it but I blasted off and was literally somewhere else.

I understand what people mean about entities now. There was a male and female, definitely friendly alien type beings. I couldn’t even look, the male tried to calm me down and it helped some but all I could do was shove my face in my pillow and breath. I had tipper on and I couldn’t believe how in sync the music was. Everything was one but it was unexpected and I couldn’t fully enjoy it. It was the most beautiful thing I’ve ever seen, and I’m going to try it again tomorrow. I could tell I hit the peek, and I got this overwhelming sense that everything was ok. It was all a big joke and they were laughing at me, in a kind way. It felt so welcoming and warm but like I said it was too much and unexpected. What is interesting is a took a big rip off a vape while in a few tabs of L, and it seems it’s not as a drastic of a change since you’re tripping already but while sober it’s blast off within like 8 seconds

I started having semi uncontrollable shaking afterwards and that freaked me out a little.


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Re: First genuine DMT breakthrough [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic] * 1
    #26511743 - 03/01/20 05:22 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks for sharing your experience with a proper DMT dose, i smiled when you talked about how all your mushroom and lsd trips still didn't quite  prepare you for the dmt trip.  I cant think of anything that will prepare someone for a serious DMT ride :lol:.  My experience with DMT is the same, it is just such a different animal than other psychedelics.  It crushes my whole being when I smoke it and there's nothing I can do about it


I dont know about you but the place it takes me to feels like it has been there forever and will continue forever and I am just placed there briefly as a (grateful) observer.


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Re: First genuine DMT breakthrough [Re: Psicomb] * 1
    #26511900 - 03/01/20 07:46 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I got goosebumps when you said the place you go has been there forever. That’s exactly how I was feeling about it. I’m really intrigued about the “person” I met was, they were overly friendly. They were trying to get me to meditate and “talk” with them, but I just couldn’t do it. I was NOT ready to meet entities.

I started out by looking at my hands, and they were being moved telepathically into a meditative position. I was really trying to keep them there, but I was so far up and in a different reality, I was scared. He was trying to comfort me, and tell me it’s ok and he’s there for me. I got full body  goosebumps and slightly fighting back a tear just thinking about it. I just can’t believe I experienced that.

I want to try it again, and have a fuller experience but I’m nervous about it. It sounds crazy but I feel like I was rude and I just want to learn what he was trying to tell me. Thank you for your reply, I really wanted to talk to someone about it.


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Re: First genuine DMT breakthrough [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic] * 1
    #26511954 - 03/01/20 08:28 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, DMT is wild. I have had a few breakthroughs but I decided to stop because I have high blood pressure and spice makes it go through the roof. The entities I have encountered seem to be trying very hard to get me to notice and appreciate them. I like that. Otherwise they might be really scary, but they seem to care a lot about me.

The entire DMT experience is so far outside of normal reality, and even psilocybin reality, that it's impossible to describe. For one thing, you're seeing things at 10X the visual resolution you experience with your eyes in the physical world.

Psilocybin seems to be saying, "here's that connection you need," and DMT says, "Hey check out this crazy shit!"


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Re: First genuine DMT breakthrough [Re: Igloomis]
    #26512247 - 03/02/20 03:20 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Sounds like a pretty nice time OP.  :awesome:

That high res definition to the visions is amazing indeed. Even better when you get old and half blind, then you can suddenly see again.

Maybe if you push it just a little bit further. When you really break through you will completely forget that your body ever existed. You will know when you get back and notice suddenly you hear the music and sense your lungs again, nothing from this side but consciousness can cross the barrier to the realms.  :trippinballs:


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Re: First genuine DMT breakthrough [Re: Northerner]
    #26512279 - 03/02/20 04:24 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

And maybe a tip for music... Tipper is fantastic on acid and shrooms, but maybe a bit too intense for DMT. Some prog house or even light prog tech (both without vocals) is perfect for it ime. If you've got slow paced prog psy as well that can be really good. The visions will pulse and change in time with the bass which is just divine, but you don't get sudden changes and fucken weird random noises that can throw everything out of step.

Just my experience anyways.  :thumbup:


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Re: First genuine DMT breakthrough [Re: Northerner]
    #26512389 - 03/02/20 07:31 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks for sharing the experiences brother! I like how you say, that you'd like to go back because you feel like you were being rude:lol:

I've never tried DMT, nor have I ever met "entities". Closest thing I've had to meeting something divine was when I was tripping on mushrooms and this song came on.. and the mushrooms seduced me. As if there was a female entity devouring my mind and giving me all of these sensations. Pretty crazy shit.

I'm keeping than excited to keep tabs on your next adventure into the beyond. Be safe and let me know how they react when they have you FULL attention!


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Re: First genuine DMT breakthrough [Re: Northerner]
    #26512972 - 03/02/20 02:30 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I’m honestly astonished at how deep one could go. If I had a friend near me, and stick a vape and mouth and just tell me to take a rip I would’ve literally been having a full blown conversation with an entity if I wasn’t so unprepared for that. This is seriously intense stuff that I’m not ready for.

I have some work to do on myself first. I’m genuinely a good person, I have a deep connection to nature and animals. My girlfriend is a vegetarian and I’m going to be one too. I have a trouble being sober (weed, kratom) mainly and I feel like I’ll get a bunch of shit for it. Maby I’m wrong. I feel like entities could feel your subconscious, and if I wasn’t given such a warm, loving experience from this one (whom I rudely couldn’t even look at for more than a second,) I would’ve been terrified.

It’s weird though, I’ve smoked different extracts of DMT and this one feels different. Maby I’m making this up, but it seems less fractally and more “I’m going to send you somewhere.” I’ve been doing sub breakthrough doses and it always feels like that. Is that naive of me to feel like that?


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Re: First genuine DMT breakthrough [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26512983 - 03/02/20 02:35 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I understand what you’re saying about the mushrooms. Like most here, I grow my own (just started,) and I was planning on trying higher doses but after this experience I’m going to keep it around 3-4G tops for now. I was going to try to breakthrough yesterday, but I was too nervous and I can’t go into it like that. I felt it just wasn’t meant to be yet. As I think I mentioned, I was having involuntary body spasms after coming back, and I couldn’t stop thinking something was wrong with me. I read that a lot of people get that from blasting off, but still it was quite unpleasant.

Thank you for wanting to keep tabs on my experiences, that means a lot. But it’ll probably be a bit before I try again. Maby one weekend I’ll feel frisky, and good about myself and go for it. I’ll post it in this thread so it comes up for you when I do buddy.


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Re: First genuine DMT breakthrough [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26512996 - 03/02/20 02:48 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Hell yeah man. None of these types of drugs that alter your perception of what we call reality is not a force to be messed with. Especially when it comes to DMT - that stuff is another type of alien. Though I do feel at higher doses of mushrooms you can definitely get into that headspace.

I always feel like you'll be nervous before taking that hit. I've taken mushrooms a dozen times and still get that nervous sensation of "damn kinda scared idk what's going to happen" - though when I take them and get passed the anxiety.. I always wish I had taken more. Gotta stop letting ego win that war.

We're all our own worse critics.. we could be one of the best people in the world yet still downtalk ourselves for something. That's just apart of being human. We all make choices, good or bad - as well as life choices. It's all about how you handle yourself at the end of the day. If you can put your head to bed at night knowing you did something good for yourself that day.. I think that's all that matters.

When I quit smoking weed i found this crazy sense of clarity. Everything felt like it was falling into place. I have nothing against weed.. but it does most certainly fog up your brain. I feel like when you know it's an issue is when it needs to be addressed. I've done a pretty good job at kicking my habits of binge drinking on the weekends and quitting smoking cigarettes. I'm now in the process of getting all of my teeth fixed (they're not bad but a bit spaced and I need an implant where a tooth never grew). But the mushrooms definitely showed me to treat my body with tender loving care.

Invest in yourself brother. In the end, that's all you got. Spoil yourself and don't sell yourself short.. don't let something else make you march to the beat of their drum. This is your life. You control it brother!

I will definitely be coming back here when you build up the courage to go back. I don't blame you whatsoever on being hesitant! Just be safe!


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Re: First genuine DMT breakthrough [Re: Northerner]
    #26514511 - 03/03/20 12:12 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Northerner said:
nothing from this side but consciousness can cross the barrier to the realms.




OR...

Consciousness is something that has crossed from "the realms" into "this side" in the first place


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Re: First genuine DMT breakthrough [Re: individualist]
    #26514710 - 03/03/20 02:23 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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individualist said:
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Northerner said:
nothing from this side but consciousness can cross the barrier to the realms.




OR...

Consciousness is something that has crossed from "the realms" into "this side" in the first place



Possibly that too. :shrug:

Stuff can come this way for sure.


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Re: First genuine DMT breakthrough [Re: Northerner]
    #26517842 - 03/05/20 02:07 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

After salvia im scared to try dmt


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Re: First genuine DMT breakthrough [Re: nomad165]
    #26517851 - 03/05/20 02:16 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

One comment closer to the marketplace! Lol


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Re: First genuine DMT breakthrough [Re: nomad165] * 1
    #26517871 - 03/05/20 02:30 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Don't be scared of DMT man, it's not the soul crushing weirdness of salvia. It is a strange place, but it's also stunningly beautiful as well. The thing about it that you have to give up everything you think you know about the world around you. Depending on your mindset that can be pretty hard to do.


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Re: First genuine DMT breakthrough [Re: Psicomb]
    #26518103 - 03/05/20 07:24 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I feel like I’m in the minority in that I was prepared for my initial DMT experiences. I’d had many massive dose DPT experiences, and a couple 5 MeO-DMT experiences prior, and while both substances are quite different from DMT....as well as from each other, the intensity & totality of the change in consciousness is to the same degree. Didn’t make DMT any less mind blowing, but that was due to the quality & content of the experience less so than the intensity & change of realities/entity contact.

OP - wild stuff isn’t it? Blows my mind how so many people experience entity contact in that space. And also the theme that they are friendly, interactive, happy to see us.......and expecting us. Is it a real place? Is it just an abstract representation of something deep within us? No one knows, but it sure feels real. Also, as was said earlier in this thread, it feels like this place was here forever. That’s some interesting stuff. My first breakthrough I felt that I was “home”. Which is intriguing stuff, as it was a novel experience. In that same vein, my first trip ever was on a hefty dose of LSD. Way too much honestly, but it worked out well. The thing is though, despite it being my first experience of psychedelia, and the fact that it was so far beyond what I’d had expected from all of my prior research, it was so familiar! I knew that space, as if I’d been there before! Simple deja vue stimulated by the effect of the substance? Or had I legit been there before? Again, who knows for sure. No one! Fascinating substances these are....


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    #26518126 - 03/05/20 07:42 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

It's not so much of entities that I see but the energy of the universe. I literally become everything at once and feel pure freedom. I think everyone has their own idea what a breakthrough is.


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Re: First genuine DMT breakthrough [Re: Northerner]
    #26518154 - 03/05/20 07:57 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Don't be scared of DMT man, it's not the soul crushing weirdness of salvia. It is a strange place, but it's also stunningly beautiful as well. The thing about it that you have to give up everything you think you know about the world around you. Depending on your mindset that can be pretty hard to do.




Dude people lose their shit on dmt all the time. It's not nearly as bad as salvia but it still happens. Some people get depersonalization disorder and no longer think reality is real. Part of the problem is that everyone thinks you need to have a massive dose to have a meaningful experience. That's complete bullshit! You don't need 3 big hits. What the history books don't tell you is that Terence mckenna rarely tripped during the 90s when he was giving all of those speeches. He had horrible trips and he was afraid to even use these substances. Even his brother said he wouldn't use them anymore. We need to stop pretending like the dmt and mushrooms realms are friendly people places because they're not. It's random and completely unpredictable. I've never known a regular user of these substances that's never been burned at least once.


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Re: First genuine DMT breakthrough [Re: Shenmue]
    #26518391 - 03/05/20 10:58 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Shenmue said: I've never known a regular user of these substances that's never been burned at least once.




Idk man, i took Aya (oral DMT) daily/near daily for 4 years, i was never burned, in fact i came out of it all better than ever. But that's me.


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Re: First genuine DMT breakthrough [Re: Shenmue] * 1
    #26518405 - 03/05/20 11:06 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Don't be scared of DMT man, it's not the soul crushing weirdness of salvia. It is a strange place, but it's also stunningly beautiful as well. The thing about it that you have to give up everything you think you know about the world around you. Depending on your mindset that can be pretty hard to do.




Dude people lose their shit on dmt all the time. It's not nearly as bad as salvia but it still happens. Some people get depersonalization disorder and no longer think reality is real. Part of the problem is that everyone thinks you need to have a massive dose to have a meaningful experience. That's complete bullshit! You don't need 3 big hits. What the history books don't tell you is that Terence mckenna rarely tripped during the 90s when he was giving all of those speeches. He had horrible trips and he was afraid to even use these substances. Even his brother said he wouldn't use them anymore. We need to stop pretending like the dmt and mushrooms realms are friendly people places because they're not. It's random and completely unpredictable. I've never known a regular user of these substances that's never been burned at least once.



You can have bad experiences with any psychedelic if you don't know when to slow down, and quite often the only way to learn your limit is through experience. Testing those limits is a trial by fire that most psychedelic enthusiasts have to face. The places are beautiful but not always friendly. I've described them as a "magic mirror" and "a pool of reflections" before. It's all you, the process is internal. You get the warning signs before you get burned. The message comes loud and clear, it's the failure to listen and act on that message that causes issues. Especially when that message says something like "stop taking psychs and sort out x issue before coming back". It's easier to ignore that than deal with your shit, that's when you get your nose rubbed in it.

I've never had any time for McKenna or his whiny speeches. Doesn't surprise me to hear he wasn't practising What he preaches.


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