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tripdawg420 said: you should average 10 dry ounces off 5 qts of spawn in 2 flushes 
I had some Cambodian genetics that would do that but their potency was weak. I've never seen anything over 5.5 dry zips from anything else I've grown. Using 5 jars or 9 jars it's always the same. I won't even say how many tubs a year for how many years this low average has been my reality.
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Re: Max yield per quart [Re: rumfor69]
#26614547 - 04/20/20 07:37 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I average 1.5 to 2 oz dry from each quart of spawn. I use 2 quarts of spawn with 3.5 quarts of Coir/ver/gyp in 11x22 seedling trays. Each tray yields 3-4 oz over 3 flushes.
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Re: Max yield per quart [Re: PiggyPig]
#26614730 - 04/20/20 09:13 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I would stop using lc, if it’s not totally colonizing the sub it’s probably dirty.
G2g would prob be safer.
I’ve run like 15 clones and only had 2 that weren’t way above the average ms grow, but they still weren’t bad.
That’s weird man if it’s going three flushes and you’re still not getting much. Conditions maybe?
My guess is spawn then conditions.
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Re: Max yield per quart [Re: A.k.a]
#26615043 - 04/20/20 11:19 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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My spawn always looks and smells perfect. Rarely even see so much as a metabolite drop. I've done it all ways for conditions misting, fanning, only misting, only fanning, polyfill, Micropore, no fanning or misting 2" up to 5" thick subs nothing matters. I think it's genetics.
One thing I'm curious of is I NEVER get good rhizo growth. Always fuzzy tomentose mycelium. 6 different varieties of cubes on agar MS and clones not one rhizo in any of it. I get a few rhizos on grains amd some in the tubs but nothing aggressive. I dunno...there's nothing I can do about it
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Re: Max yield per quart [Re: A.k.a]
#26615045 - 04/20/20 11:19 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Here what I’d do, take a high yielding strain some information on this throughout forum one I’m formulated with is ToC (treasure coast) get a MSS syringe, knock up like 20 plates and start isolating the sectors you will have to fruit these see which ones a winner and clone the biggest or out of cluster and run that in LC I figure this is the only way to capture dusted yields, I’ve also read that when you go 4 generations out of LC you lose the strength so you have to repeat the above process or reset the genetics via spore print.
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It's way less work to just keep using what I have and make a couple extra tubs that rotate quickly
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Re: Max yield per quart [Re: A.k.a]
#26615862 - 04/20/20 05:16 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: I would stop using lc, if it’s not totally colonizing the sub it’s probably dirty.
G2g would prob be safer.
I’ve run like 15 clones and only had 2 that weren’t way above the average ms grow, but they still weren’t bad.
That’s weird man if it’s going three flushes and you’re still not getting much. Conditions maybe?
My guess is spawn then conditions.
Ive had the same issue when Ive done G2G... only do that when I run out of LC but ive got about 9 500 ml bottles going at any time now so hopefully I dont run out lol.
From the time I spawn till I see pins are about 7 to 10 days... and then by day 14-17 Im harvesting my flush. I think it just goes gung ho with the colonization and doesnt put enough energy into fruiting cause its just trying to run its coarse so quickly? I dunno. Would it behoove me to try not fruiting from spawn and give it some time before I introduce FAE? I have noticed that After first flush I havent been soaking... Ive been doing some pretty hefty spraying and then spraying a bit every day after... even if its been a bit moist. so sometimes by the second flush the sub starts becoming a bit water logged. Im trying to just do a light mist now whenever I see the little sparkly beads gone... But I only go to the spot to do my thing once a day so its hard to keep an eye on it.
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PiptheGreAtest said: ToC (treasure coast)
TOC is Texas Orange Cap and TC is Treasure Coast
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How long are they making it before molding out?
If you’re doing that many grows it would be worth devoting one or two to experimenting with colonization periods or anything really.
Has it all been the same culture??
I’ve had like two or three tubs pin before getting fully colonized but were also healthy and went past three flushes.
Any other time it’s pinned premature was contaminated.
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Re: Max yield per quart [Re: A.k.a]
#26615906 - 04/20/20 05:38 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: How long are they making it before molding out?
If you’re doing that many grows it would be worth devoting one or two to experimenting with colonization periods or anything really.
Has it all been the same culture??
I’ve had like two or three tubs pin before getting fully colonized but were also healthy and went past three flushes.
Any other time it’s pinned premature was contaminated.
sometimes it takes 2 flushes till It gets trich, sometimes its 3. but I dont think it usually goes past 3. I think the oldest tub I had just tossed was from 2/27... But ya, I was thinking today when I go im gonna try to colonize them a bit longer before I open the holes for FAE...
Yes, its all been the same culture. Ill see if I can take a few pics of the tubs that are gonna be coming up for harvest here. I basically have been setting and forgetting it... so changing the process that will require me to do anything more than what Ive been doing will be a LOT more work. But if it means I can double or triple yield I might consider it.
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Re: Max yield per quart [Re: A.k.a]
#26615921 - 04/20/20 05:49 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Mine colonize 100% in just about a week. They look how they do in my sig. I get about 4-5 flushes this Texas/PE6 flushes all the first 3 at once staggered together then I get one or two more after that. Mine don't even usually mold out they just shrivel and dry out and stop. Once in awhile they might get a tiny green spot at that ending on the surface.
I've done a series of different printing and cloning on agar with them over the years trying to get them to be better but they're always the same. This last time I made 5 different dishes from the MS dish and they all grew identical lol I'm done trying with them.
I have some lizard king, AA+, Ban Nathon, PE, and a different PE6 that I'm going to be mixing into tubs soon. But they were all fuzzy tomentose across 4 dishes with 4 syringe drops on each dish to give me 16 dice rolls. All looked identical with each variety lol We'll see I guess
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Re: Max yield per quart [Re: rumfor69]
#26617637 - 04/21/20 12:16 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Just for reference here are some tubs that I have going... things look good but there doesnt seem to be consistency with the pinset, even under the same conditions.

This one is a decent flush (I harvested some matured ones the day before in the top left corner) but I dont know how to have all of them fill out like this.

And yes I know its a little late on the harvest but its not at my place so its hard to time everything lol.
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