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Lophophora
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Ridiculous fear of DMT 3
#26515767 - 03/04/20 02:34 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Just realized how absolutely ridiculous my fear of DMT is, I stepped on some thin ice while fishing today and went crashing through into the frigid water below but remained completely calm...put a dose of DMT in front of me and I'll immediately start sweating bullets and spend an hour prepping myself, makes absolutely no sense to me facing death scares me less than DMT and I've never even had an experience I'd even consider particularly difficult on it nothing compared to my rough LSD, shroom, aya trips and I'll dose those without a second thought. The hell is wrong with me.
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Re: Ridiculous fear of DMT [Re: Lophophora]
#26515779 - 03/04/20 03:19 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've had worse trips with L, mushrooms, etc. but so far, dmt has been chill.
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Re: Ridiculous fear of DMT [Re: Lophophora] 3
#26515785 - 03/04/20 03:27 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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It makes me hella nervous as well man. Nothing like the prospect of the destruction of consensus reality to give you the jitters.
I don't even prep for it if I'm gonna do it because it stresses me too much. Within 30 seconds of getting the idea I'll already be approaching the gates if I commit, don't even give myself a chance to doubt. Once through those gates the fear is gone.
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Re: Ridiculous fear of DMT [Re: Northerner]
#26515816 - 03/04/20 04:14 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Me too man, i've tripped countless times, i even guide others through their experiences with mushrooms but deemz has me shaking like a shitting dog even when im dosing other people.
I've had nothing but good vibes off it haha, i dont know what it is but i defo make it an issue.
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Re: Ridiculous fear of DMT [Re: Lophophora] 1
#26515836 - 03/04/20 04:40 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah I don’t think I much like it. I’m in the same boat to where I haven’t even got ‘there’. Something just doesn’t mesh, either maybe my head is in a funky place or I just don’t like it. Either way it just keeps never happening. Maybe I’m getting too old.
It’s weird because I used to have all kinds of wacky experiences with salvia, so that mechanism of ending up somewhere else was never an obstacle. My head just seems too fragile anymore, it’s sensitive to things that back in the day I wouldn’t bat an eye at. I think I may be a little too present, lucid, aware etc etc to ‘let go’ I guess you could say. I guess that makes sense. Maybe my heart’s just not in the game anymore..
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Re: Ridiculous fear of DMT [Re: Amanita86]
#26515844 - 03/04/20 04:50 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think the vasoconstriction gives your body an aversion. It's not the trip that's making people gunshy. Ever get the hiccups during a dmt trip it fucking blows
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Re: Ridiculous fear of DMT [Re: Amanita86] 1
#26515846 - 03/04/20 04:53 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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The thing with DMT is that the initial rush is so strong that it always takes me aback. Can be a chore taking another hit when you’re blasting off. “Nope, I’m good.” But as soon as the come up is done, which is super fast, it’s always been beautiful in my experience. But that doesn’t make it any easier, despite the number of times I’ve done it.
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Re: Ridiculous fear of DMT [Re: Dark_Star]
#26515886 - 03/04/20 05:37 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I always get "anxiety" before I smoke dmt. After the come up though I'm good
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Re: Ridiculous fear of DMT [Re: numnum59]
#26515893 - 03/04/20 05:46 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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You can call it "pre flight anxiety".
It proves that you do have huge respect of the implications (positive like negative) of taking this strong psychedelic. This results in a healthy respect and might indicate a healthy risk awareness. Also it means that you don't underestimate the Spirit Molecule.
For me this sounds good.
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Re: Ridiculous fear of DMT [Re: Dark_Star]
#26515900 - 03/04/20 05:55 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have a little of that with everything where going in I’m thinking “oh this sucks why do I keep doing this to myself, ughhh” and then on the tail end I’m thinking, “should have gone way harder bruh”.. It’s like some dueling banjos of the mind or something.
I will say this though, I’ve managed to let myself get comfortable with a heftier than necessary kratom habit and have become aware that it adds a pressure in your head that doesn’t mix well with how psyches make your head super sensitive to what is going on. So that could very well be playing into the problem. The last time I dabbled in dmt I was in my drinking days and alcohol fucks up your head in a different way but similar manner so maybe in a roundabout way the deems are letting me know I have to cut that shit out before we proceed any further. That probably plays a role in the whole thing.
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Re: Ridiculous fear of DMT [Re: SpearCaps]
#26515901 - 03/04/20 05:55 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Smoking dmt is weird, it's not a preference of mine, id rather take mushrooms or another dmt analogue orally, as well as much rather take DMT orally. It just doesn't last very long, you can't retain much information, and you don't really get anything out of low doses(mainly because it doesn't last very long) at least with another dmt analog you can get profound long deep experiences with low doses paired with meditation. The whole experience of smoked DMT feels like it's not something you should be doing, the one time I tried to break through and saw the white light of the after life, that was enough for me, I don't need to return there until I actually die
It's just too much at once, it's like trying to prepare to shoot yourself in the head with a shot gun, you can't really prepare for something like that. I'd rather take the cyanide pill if I'm going for total death. To each their own 🤣
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I had one level 5 experience with DMT. Shot out of a cannon. Tumbling, tumbling, tumbling. Time was obsolete. I wasn’t human anymore. In fact, I seemed to have lost all memory of ever being human. That was a year and a half ago. Since then, I tried a few times to vaporize very small doses of DMT, doses that I knew wouldn’t send me over to the other side, and still I was sweating bullets.
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Re: Ridiculous fear of DMT [Re: igorcarajo] 1
#26516123 - 03/04/20 08:52 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Changa, and a good way to pace yourself while diving into DMT waters.
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Re: Ridiculous fear of DMT [Re: Sabnock]
#26516490 - 03/04/20 01:12 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Guess in a way it does make a lot of sense, falling through the ice and thinking whelp this might be is isn't a weird feeling you just kind of feel numb trying to get your way back onto the ice against the current. With deemz you've got to think about it and as your sitting there with the dose in your hand or weighing it out even you start to obsess more than anything about what could happen even though 10 minutes later you'll be opening your eyes.
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Re: Ridiculous fear of DMT [Re: Sabnock] 1
#26516539 - 03/04/20 01:36 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sabnock said: Changa, and a good way to pace yourself while diving into DMT waters.

I agree mate. I tried straight freebase only once and didn't like it much. Much smoother experience with changa. Still get nervous beforehand, but at least the trips are multistage journeys rather than the psychedelic equivalent of mentos in coca cola.
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Re: Ridiculous fear of DMT [Re: Northerner]
#26516747 - 03/04/20 03:50 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I assume you basically die the only difference is your body doesnt cease to function, we basically die every night when we dream. From what ive heard you cant move, the scary part is probably the brain telling you youre awake id assume. I dont think you should let your fear decide whether you take dmt tbh but no one can tell you not to be afraid of it. The fear of going where no man has gone, I think its why were afraid to get mauled by a bear or eaten by a shark, its a fear every animal has probably, the fear of death. Dmt could be the reason every animal fears death, theres nothing scary about returning to a state before birth but a journey into the unknown? Its a nice thought...but then i think wait, insects dont have brains, not really anyways lol There must be no insects in the after life
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Re: Ridiculous fear of DMT [Re: Backbone]
#26517373 - 03/04/20 08:40 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I had my first entity experience this past weekend and I’m very nervous of doing it again. It’s insane how fast you go from sober to blast off. I have the best DMT I’ve ever vaped right now too which in a weird way makes me even more nervous. I think I’ll do it in the dark next time as having the lights on and having no clue where I’m at was surreal. I’m a decent person but I think bring good energy into it makes it more positive.
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Changa FTW for sure.......mix up some different blends and find the mix of harmalas that works best for you. You can completely control your blast velocity and bump it too when you like. And ripped in a bong you can get deep in one hit if that’s your thing.
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Re: Ridiculous fear of DMT [Re: SynKyd]
#26517520 - 03/04/20 09:44 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I need to do that then. It was my first genuine blast off too but still. 0-100 way too fast. I think it would be fun to be just below breakthrough, but be able To sustain it. Another random thought. Have you done DMT/Changa while on LSD? I feel it was easier to handle for some reason. It was still very powerful, but I personally feel completely whole on a few tabs, then smoking a little Changa would be great I’d assume.
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Changa on LSD is my all time favourite combo.
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