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OfflineBabylon
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Re: Treating mushrooms as a sacrament, and the ramifications for cultivation [Re: Northerner]
    #26520011 - 03/06/20 05:24 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Why is everyone posting about dealer shrooms?  Nobody cares about them, none of you posters do, you've been clear on that and I don't either.  Tell me about the sacred.


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Re: Treating mushrooms as a sacrament, and the ramifications for cultivation [Re: Babylon] * 2
    #26520031 - 03/06/20 05:58 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I think that the geometry of molecules has an inherent effect on the fabric of reality which is primitively linked to consciousness itself and the grand super-conscious. It's like you're a computer being forced data from a long dated coding system


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Re: Treating mushrooms as a sacrament, and the ramifications for cultivation [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #26520153 - 03/06/20 07:51 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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I think that the geometry of molecules has an inherent effect on the fabric of reality which is primitively linked to consciousness itself and the grand super-conscious. It's like you're a computer being forced data from a long dated coding system



:thumbup::thumbup: Great post/quote!


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Re: Treating mushrooms as a sacrament, and the ramifications for cultivation [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26524768 - 03/08/20 11:03 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Well yeah, of course  -but wut 'bouts the 'spiritual' aspect (if any) implied by the OP?


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Re: Treating mushrooms as a sacrament, and the ramifications for cultivation [Re: scarabaeus]
    #26524806 - 03/08/20 11:41 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Are we talking legal ramifications or the ramifications on your psyche? :musky:


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Re: Treating mushrooms as a sacrament, and the ramifications for cultivation [Re: Shiithead]
    #26524811 - 03/08/20 11:44 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Just treat them like a sacrament and you will be good psyche and legal wise


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Re: Treating mushrooms as a sacrament, and the ramifications for cultivation [Re: theRealrollforever]
    #26524830 - 03/09/20 12:08 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Yup! That's the way I see it anyway .


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Re: Treating mushrooms as a sacrament, and the ramifications for cultivation [Re: Shiithead]
    #26524858 - 03/09/20 12:49 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Shiithead said:
Are we talking legal ramifications or the ramifications on your psyche? :musky:





no.  I'm asking about raising them in sacred ways, to make them better for use as a sacrament.


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Re: Treating mushrooms as a sacrament, and the ramifications for cultivation [Re: Babylon] * 1
    #26525219 - 03/09/20 09:28 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I think it's a bit nonsensical...

What each person considers "sacred" is subjective.

To you, "raising them in sacred ways" might mean playing good music, giving good vibes, talking to them maybe? Ect.

But to me it might mean blasting death metal, insulting them as they grow, and sacrificing a hamster over the finished product for good luck  :devil:

Point being, is any of that really going to have an effect on the shrooms? You think they're gonna remember the hamster and give me gnarly visions about angry hamsters? Don't think so.

Shrooms are shrooms. Effects are determined by genetics, no amount of singing to them in the moonlight is going to produce a better quality trip.

It's cool when you have a personal connection to how they were grown, but that doesn't affect the shrooms... Just your psyche.
The current state of your psyche will affect the trip, but it has nothing to do with the shrooms or where they came from.


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Re: Treating mushrooms as a sacrament, and the ramifications for cultivation [Re: Svetaketu]
    #26525243 - 03/09/20 09:42 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

It doesn’t affect the shrooms it affects your psyche
This I’d have to agree with


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Re: Treating mushrooms as a sacrament, and the ramifications for cultivation [Re: theRealrollforever]
    #26525512 - 03/09/20 01:29 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Sorry to burst the bubble but psilocybin grown well is the same no matter who grew it or with what intentions.


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Re: Treating mushrooms as a sacrament, and the ramifications for cultivation [Re: Svetaketu]
    #26525992 - 03/09/20 07:07 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Svetaketu said:
I think it's a bit nonsensical...

What each person considers "sacred" is subjective.

To you, "raising them in sacred ways" might mean playing good music, giving good vibes, talking to them maybe? Ect.

But to me it might mean blasting death metal, insulting them as they grow, and sacrificing a hamster over the finished product for good luck  :devil:

Point being, is any of that really going to have an effect on the shrooms? You think they're gonna remember the hamster and give me gnarly visions about angry hamsters? Don't think so.

Shrooms are shrooms. Effects are determined by genetics, no amount of singing to them in the moonlight is going to produce a better quality trip.

It's cool when you have a personal connection to how they were grown, but that doesn't affect the shrooms... Just your psyche.
The current state of your psyche will affect the trip, but it has nothing to do with the shrooms or where they came from.




Why do you say "just" your psyche?  Set and setting can make a bigger difference than alkaloid content.  You admit that in the last sentence but then claim that has nothing to do with the shrooms or where they came from, why not?  If I buy shrooms off a meth dealer I'm going to be paranoid, he might be a good clean grower, I'm still likely to have a bad trip.  If I grow them with care I'm going to have a better trip, even if that meth dealer is actually better at growing shrooms than I am.  I'm not asking about making shrooms grow better with sacred teks, I am asking about incorporating the sacred to effect the psyche.  That can be Crystals and kumbaya, it can be death metal and animal sacrifice.  I just want to know what people have done and how it's worked for them.


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Re: Treating mushrooms as a sacrament, and the ramifications for cultivation [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #26525995 - 03/09/20 07:09 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Seriously_trippin said:
Sorry to burst the bubble but psilocybin grown well is the same no matter who grew it or with what intentions.





Sorry to bust your bubble buddy, but set and setting are just as important as the quality of the shrooms.


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Re: Treating mushrooms as a sacrament, and the ramifications for cultivation [Re: Babylon]
    #26526224 - 03/09/20 09:37 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

The only time I’ve ever paid for shrooms is in Amsterdam. I grew up in Louisiana, so they grow wild in ever cow pasture in the state pretty much year round if you know where to look. When I got tired of tearing shirts and pants on barbed wire, I started growing my own. I understand there are some religions out there that use shrooms as a sacrament. I’m not looking for religion though.


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Re: Treating mushrooms as a sacrament, and the ramifications for cultivation [Re: Supernova]
    #26526227 - 03/09/20 09:39 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Mushrooms will be more rare. And more loved


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Re: Treating mushrooms as a sacrament, and the ramifications for cultivation [Re: Fiery]
    #26526626 - 03/10/20 05:07 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Extremely negative vibes are the only way to a full canopy :shrug:
Also mushrooms make you gay


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Re: Treating mushrooms as a sacrament, and the ramifications for cultivation [Re: Babylon]
    #26526641 - 03/10/20 05:29 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Babylon said:
I am asking about incorporating the sacred to effect the psyche.  That can be Crystals and kumbaya, it can be death metal and animal sacrifice.  I just want to know what people have done and how it's worked for them.




There used to be some corny fucker here who would ask if the mushroom wanted to be eaten. He would literally talk to the mushroom. LOL

I'm pretty much against this shit, we want mainstream acceptance, how does acting like a mushroom cult get us there? Its been 50 years since the hippies and people still equate psychedelic use to hippy nonsense. The experience already has lots my mystical attributes, you don't have to have to rituals.


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Re: Treating mushrooms as a sacrament, and the ramifications for cultivation [Re: Babylon]
    #26527671 - 03/10/20 04:11 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Babylon said:
Quote:

Seriously_trippin said:
Sorry to burst the bubble but psilocybin grown well is the same no matter who grew it or with what intentions.





Sorry to bust your bubble buddy, but set and setting are just as important as the quality of the shrooms.



Agreed set and setting is just as important but it doesn't change the psilocybin inside the mushrooms if they are grown for profit


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