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First timer with pf tek, sgfc questions * 1
    #26513876 - 03/03/20 02:06 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Hello, i've been reading and browsing a lot in the forum, in the past months before embarking in this hobby... I've started with pf tek last month, and was good 'till now, the most unclear part of the tek for me, which is fruiting... I constructed my sgfc with a tote i found but i'm not sure the size is right, seems to tall to me...



I'm also not totally sure if added enough perlite, i have an extra bag and if some of you feel it should have more of it i'll try to add it in...
I'm asking since this is what my cakes looked like 2 days ago







and this is what they look like now, they seems like they're drying up a little, right?





Last thing, the fuzzy thing that's seems like is coming out of the cakes, is it normal? Does it just need more fae or is it contam?
I know that for some of you this will look like amateur work or like i'm asking silly questions, and I apologize for opening a new topic for this, I tried only searching for info in the forum but i just wanted to be sure of what i'm doing... :grin:


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Re: First timer with pf tek, sgfc questions [Re: Unwound]
    #26513884 - 03/03/20 02:27 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

the fuzzy stuff seems like mycelium to me..I can’t tell if theres any contam at all though... as long as you see clean white and no cobweb or mean green, I think you’ll be alright for the most part, but I am also a noob, just prefer the Monotubs , I’m sure someone else will give their opinion:stoned:


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Re: First timer with pf tek, sgfc questions [Re: ToxicMush]
    #26513886 - 03/03/20 02:31 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Gonna wanna keep misting it all looks good though


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Re: First timer with pf tek, sgfc questions [Re: Ovoidhunter]
    #26513888 - 03/03/20 02:38 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah? no need to add some perlite then? I ask because from the pics i seem to find on the internet all the totes seem smaller or with more perlite than i thought...


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Re: First timer with pf tek, sgfc questions [Re: Unwound]
    #26513899 - 03/03/20 02:51 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

You have enough perlite that's putting out humidity but not real moisture to your cakes. Get a mist bottle an just keep the surface moist. Don't spray enough to wash away the casing layer tho just enough to to where water is always evaporating off. Triggers pinning.:thumbup:

That's also gonna allow your casing layer to be better colonized by the mycelium.


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Re: First timer with pf tek, sgfc questions [Re: Ovoidhunter]
    #26513933 - 03/03/20 04:14 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Mist more and move your cakes closer together. The fuzzy is good, it means the cakes are recovering and growing out on the vermiculite. You can add more perilite if you want. I would because you have so few cakes in such a large SGFC you might benefit from the extra perilite.


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Re: First timer with pf tek, sgfc questions [Re: Sockadin] * 1
    #26514004 - 03/03/20 05:50 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Will do, i'll add more perlite tomorrow and try and mist better... :smile:


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Re: First timer with pf tek, sgfc questions [Re: Unwound]
    #26514166 - 03/03/20 08:23 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Definitely add more perlite. I like my perlite half way up the chamber.


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Re: First timer with pf tek, sgfc questions [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26514297 - 03/03/20 09:44 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I never did SGFC but would it help here to pile extra perlite up on the sides since there’s so much space?

Or would that screw up the airflow/evaporation


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Re: First timer with pf tek, sgfc questions [Re: A.k.a] * 1
    #26514476 - 03/03/20 11:41 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

PF Tek calls for 5 inches of perlite with an even surface. Can't tell from your pic, but grab a ruler and measure. I can't imagine adding more than 5 inches would hurt (I am new though so don't take my word as gospel), but you definitely don't want to be under 5 inches.


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Re: First timer with pf tek, sgfc questions [Re: A.k.a]
    #26515565 - 03/03/20 10:13 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I doubt it would mess up the aerodynamics of it.

I use about 6inches of perlite. Works great!


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Re: First timer with pf tek, sgfc questions [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26515743 - 03/04/20 02:03 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Added more perlite this morning, and also put a humidificator in the room since i'll be gone 'till the evening and won't be able to mist... I noticed that the sides of my cakes seemd a little dry, hope this will help!


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Re: First timer with pf tek, sgfc questions [Re: Unwound] * 1
    #26515840 - 03/04/20 04:45 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Just to understand, since they've been in the sgfc for a few days now, how long can i keep 'em in there hoping they will fruit? couple of weeks?


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Re: First timer with pf tek, sgfc questions [Re: Unwound]
    #26515945 - 03/04/20 06:36 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

If you're worried about the perlite drying out, it will last longer than you'll ever need. You can just replace lost moisture through misting. That's actually more than you need. The cakes would perform muchbbetter if the sgfc were crowded with cakes. I hate sgfcs. Consider crumbling cakes to hydrated coir in a shoebox.


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Re: First timer with pf tek, sgfc questions [Re: Neowynd8]
    #26515977 - 03/04/20 07:12 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I haven't really read how to do brf to bulk... Would this be the case? Is it still possible in case i don't see any pins in the next week?

Thanks to all the replies, btw...


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Re: First timer with pf tek, sgfc questions [Re: Unwound]
    #26516084 - 03/04/20 08:16 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Those cakes will pin give it time. It's to late for brf to bulk because of being out in open air so long and the unsterilized verm casing. Maybe cut back on fae by covering some of those holes if it's drying out on you. It is a big tub for just four cakes. Should be fine tho.


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Re: First timer with pf tek, sgfc questions [Re: Ovoidhunter]
    #26516104 - 03/04/20 08:38 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Ok then, thanks... I guess i only needed some reassuring... :tongue:


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Re: First timer with pf tek, sgfc questions [Re: Unwound]
    #26516266 - 03/04/20 10:38 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I’m pretty sure you could still shred them to coir if you wanted. I also hate cakes though, shoeboxes are way easier.


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Re: First timer with pf tek, sgfc questions [Re: A.k.a]
    #26516370 - 03/04/20 11:57 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Don't shred them now. To late, went into consolidation. They will fruit. And I wouldn't humidify the room. You want dry air outside and  it will increase you RH by the normal design of the SGFC. Also blocking off holes will probably impeed the design of the SGFC. Just mist more when you can. Cakes always start to look dry before pinning. Surface evaporation is you #1 pinning trigger.


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Re: First timer with pf tek, sgfc questions [Re: Sockadin]
    #26516640 - 03/04/20 02:32 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Unless I'm missing something, nothing looks contaminated to me. I would add some more perlite, but other than that it looks good. Timing on how long cakes take to pin and fruit is inconsistent. Just keep misting and fanning and you should see results soon.


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