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Re: Should billionaires exist [Re: RJ Tubs 202] 2
#26519919 - 03/06/20 03:12 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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The thing is Billionaires affect the lives of a ton of people. Take Jeff Bezos. His greed affects all his employees who work for Amazon. In comparsion, a hobos greed for booze money only really affects himself and his childern/family if he has them. Huge difference in impact. The scaling is just way different to say "greed is greed". In my opinion, thats an oversimplification of the issue.
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Re: Should billionaires exist [Re: RJ Tubs 202] 1
#26520243 - 03/06/20 09:05 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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RJ Tubs 202 said: Let's not condemn billionaires more than the drunkard who lives under a bridge. Greed is greed - right?
It's so easy to hate the rich! It's a form of hatred we embrace in our hypocritical society.
It's not about hating billionaires, it's about changing the system that enables them to abuse their wealth at the expense of the bottom 80% that are suffering as a result.
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Re: Should billionaires exist [Re: qman] 2
#26520381 - 03/06/20 10:23 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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RJ Tubs 202 said: Let's not condemn billionaires more than the drunkard who lives under a bridge. Greed is greed - right?
It's so easy to hate the rich! It's a form of hatred we embrace in our hypocritical society.
It's not about hating billionaires, it's about changing the system that enables them to abuse their wealth at the expense of the bottom 80% that are suffering as a result.
You beat me to it. 
No one hates the rich for being rich. We hate that they pay less in taxes now than the bottom 50%.
America's richest 400 families now pay a lower tax rate than the middle class
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That shit is absolutely horrid. Is it because of Trump?
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Re: Should billionaires exist [Re: Pinkerton] 6
#26521919 - 03/07/20 09:29 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's because of Reagan but trump is making it worse. Of course, so have all the other presidents since.
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Re: Should billionaires exist [Re: ballsalsa]
#26521946 - 03/07/20 09:47 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Should billionaires exist [Re: RJ Tubs 202] 3
#26522724 - 03/07/20 07:13 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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RJ Tubs 202 said: Let's not condemn billionaires more than the drunkard who lives under a bridge. Greed is greed - right?
It's so easy to hate the rich! It's a form of hatred we embrace in our hypocritical society.
#Shitpost
I will condemn billionaires far more scornfully, and viciously, than the drunkard under a bridge. Billionaires hurt far more people than homeless bums. Billionaires, and the wealthy elite collapse otherwise thriving economies. The fabulously wealthy are the reason South America has Banana Republics.
It's hypocritical to say that you support a democratic society, and simultaneously support an ever growing number of billionaires that thwart the Democratic process.
You know, if we didn't have fucking billionaires, we'd have far less drunkards living under bridges.
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Re: Should billionaires exist [Re: qman] 1
#26522733 - 03/07/20 07:16 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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RJ Tubs 202 said: Let's not condemn billionaires more than the drunkard who lives under a bridge. Greed is greed - right?
It's so easy to hate the rich! It's a form of hatred we embrace in our hypocritical society.
It's not about hating billionaires, it's about changing the system that enables them to abuse their wealth at the expense of the bottom 80% that are suffering as a result.
Nah, fuck that. Hate the rich. The union busting, environment crushing, marginalizers of modern society. Hate the rich, the leach, the Capitalist.
I despise them, as they despise those who are not rich.
We are at war folks, and many of you are under the illusion that it's airsoft.
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Re: Should billionaires exist [Re: Bigbadwooof] 3
#26522767 - 03/07/20 07:40 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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qman said:
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RJ Tubs 202 said: Let's not condemn billionaires more than the drunkard who lives under a bridge. Greed is greed - right?
It's so easy to hate the rich! It's a form of hatred we embrace in our hypocritical society.
It's not about hating billionaires, it's about changing the system that enables them to abuse their wealth at the expense of the bottom 80% that are suffering as a result.
Nah, fuck that. Hate the rich. The union busting, environment crushing, marginalizers of modern society. Hate the rich, the leach, the Capitalist.
I despise them, as they despise those who are not rich.
We are at war folks, and many of you are under the illusion that it's airsoft.
Yes, once the wealth is acquired, it likely sets up the inevitable abuse you're referring to in the above statements. With that being said, lets focus on the mechanisms which enables that wealth to accumulate and eliminate it. Taxation is perfect solution, that's why they freak out on the suggestion of it.
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Re: Should billionaires exist [Re: qman] 1
#26522770 - 03/07/20 07:43 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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qman said: ...lets focus on the mechanisms which enables that wealth to accumulate and eliminate it. Taxation is perfect solution, that's why they freak out on the suggestion of it.
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qman said: ...lets focus on the mechanisms which enables that wealth to accumulate and eliminate it. Taxation is perfect solution, that's why they freak out on the suggestion of it.

Yeah... I've discovered, when we're not talking about race issues.. Qman is my motherfucker.
I really love most of your posts dude. I just updated your rating, which I assumed was 0 shrooms, but I already rated you 5 in 2015 lmao.
Here's to another 5 years of political horse shit, my brother!

I will say though, fuck billionaires, I'm for the proletarians they rode in on.
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Re: Should billionaires exist [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#26523575 - 03/08/20 08:48 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Before we lump everyone together, lets recall that FDR was rich. And I'm not saying that all his motivations were pure. But he helped the poor and the middle as much as the rich.
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Re: Should billionaires exist [Re: Brian Jones]
#26523774 - 03/08/20 11:28 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Of course, but FDRs are hard to come by. Like once in a generation if we're lucky.
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Re: Should billionaires exist [Re: ballsalsa] 1
#26523783 - 03/08/20 11:34 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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If your worried or angered or even don't want billionaires to exist your perspective is ridiculous and you should stop being a victim
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Re: Should billionaires exist [Re: bodhisatta] 4
#26523813 - 03/08/20 11:53 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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The victim mentality is the one that acquiesces to the inevitability of an over-class of fabulously wealthy capitalists and an underclass of everyone else. I don't care if there has always* been the equivalent of Royalty or Nobility in some form or another. That doesn't mean I have to like it.
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Re: Should billionaires exist [Re: ballsalsa]
#26523940 - 03/08/20 01:20 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Not enough court intrigue to be like it's always been, maybe not enougn suspicious deaths in this lastest round of nobility, fucking slackers.
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Re: Should billionaires exist [Re: bodhisatta] 4
#26523946 - 03/08/20 01:25 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: If your worried or angered or even don't want billionaires to exist your perspective is ridiculous and you should stop being a victim
That's a pretty broad statement. What makes you think that the desire for a more equitable resource distribution is ridiculous or that it's some sort of victim mentality?
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Re: Should billionaires exist [Re: Enlil]
#26524077 - 03/08/20 02:54 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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There's no suffering because billionaires exist. There's systematic blockades preventing those with little wealth from maintaining wealth that need to disappear for redistribution of wealth to ever make sense.
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Re: Should billionaires exist [Re: bodhisatta]
#26524079 - 03/08/20 02:55 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Great. Can you answer my question?
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Re: Should billionaires exist [Re: Enlil]
#26524086 - 03/08/20 03:01 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think people should want more wealth and wealth for everyone. That's not ridiculous. Thinking billionaires have anything to do with it is ridiculous. I think if you're reasoning is getting rid of billionaires is helping your wealth situation you're trying to be a victim of "misdistribution" of wealth
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