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OfflinePsilosopherr
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: igorcarajo] * 2
    #26509703 - 02/29/20 12:18 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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These kind of threads make me nervous. Dude is a depressed walking pharmacy, then doubles his dose because he isn’t feeling enough. Then, if this post follows the normal course of things... we won’t ever get an update. I am forced to assume he is probably dead. :frown:


i say this in the kindest way possible but wtf are you talkin about


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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Shr00mEater]
    #26509890 - 02/29/20 03:14 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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GreggTC said:
Earth to Snizz40...

How's the view? ��������







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Earth to Snizz40...

How's the view? 💜💜💜😊





Lol, hopefully he posts back.

These kind of threads make me nervous. Dude is a depressed walking pharmacy, then doubles his dose because he isn’t feeling enough. Then, if this post follows the normal course of things... we won’t ever get an update. I am forced to assume he is probably dead. :frown:

Off topic but; Fuck Michael Pollan, hopefully op gets what he is after.


Snizz40! We demand a trip report!!!!! :mushroom2:




Hey guys.

          If I learned something really important last night, is you have to approach shrooms with a lot of respect.

When I was tripping last night, I did a very impulsive move by taking 3 more grams. Unfortunatly, impulsivity is one of my few weaknesses.

At one point, the euphoria was so overwhelming that my body became very tense. I started to have muscular spasms. The anxiety went in. I went to urinate, had trouble to stand up, my coordination was falling apart. My head was very lightheaded, and I started to fear an interaction with my pharmacology.

I was finally able to take over and calm myself, but I decided to be préventive and took my Seroquel and clonazepam. Buzz shutdown like 30 min later.

Next Time, my medication Will be tappered.
I still have 14g of Hanoi Vietnam Blue shrooms, more potent. Il make sure to not make the same mistake twice.

Thanks all for the support, so yea Im still pretty much alive, lol.


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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Snixx40]
    #26509893 - 02/29/20 03:20 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Take a break, stay clear of the meds a bit if you can, maybe try microdosing to ween off them, then take like 3g at night alone and wait.

See how it goes, ride it out either way, get a benchmark.

Thats my advice.

Let go of the idea of control, you gotta give that up completely.

Rest easy knowing its all meant to be. No matter what happens you can learn from it and even in the most difficult times if you can let go and accept things and stop fighting it, you may be very surprised what is experienced and revealed.

You learned valuable lessons already with the mushroom.

Part of the journey inward.

Welcome, wish the best for you


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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Enkidu] * 2
    #26509903 - 02/29/20 03:27 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

The thing with mushrooms is...the more you try to be behind the wheel, the more likely you are to get lost.
Get in the passenger seat, man. The mushies will get you where you NEED to go, not where you WANT to.

I know that sounds like a bunch of hippie BS, but it’s the best advice I’ve ever gotten.


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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: feldman114]
    #26509915 - 02/29/20 03:40 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

As said, letting go is paramount.
If you push, it will push back harder.

Some anxiety/paranoia is common. But, you'll find that succumbing to the experience will quiet it as the effects start to cradle you.

Before you next take it, do some research into your medications and the possible interactions they may have.
Psilocybin mushrooms have rather harmless substances, pharmacologically speaking. The most trouble usually comes from psychosomatic reactions.
Be confident before you take them that they won't hurt you.


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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Snixx40]
    #26509998 - 02/29/20 04:32 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks for the update. I appreciate it. Did anything substantial come up during your trip? What was the part you liked the most?

Enkidu, glad to see you posting again and giving good advice. :smile:


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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Shr00mEater]
    #26510129 - 02/29/20 05:46 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Thanks for the update. I appreciate it. Did anything substantial come up during your trip? What was the part you liked the most?

Enkidu, glad to see you posting again and giving good advice. :smile:




Well, waves on walls and everything was pretty amazing. Also when I looked at the Mirror and looked at myself intensively, its hard to explain, but I was kind of unbound of my physical body. Also a bit later, the way I was seeing things, It was like a shattering Mirror, like a honeycomb view. When I was closing my eyes, it was like hundreds of quartz, with different colors. Also when I was tripping hard, my closet  became the whole wall, There were things that keeped disappearing and reappering, but as said above from the experimental shroomers, I started to try to take control, and wasnt able to abandon myself completely.


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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Shr00mEater]
    #26510349 - 02/29/20 08:14 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Enkidu, glad to see you posting again and giving good advice. :smile:




Howdy :hatsoff:

No mindfuck op? Im hearing lots of visuals


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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Enkidu]
    #26510804 - 03/01/20 05:34 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Snixx40, when I read threads like this or hear stories like yours in real life, I worry. The big problem with hallucinogenics like mushrooms is that our current draconian laws have them neatly tucked into a Schedule I status, at least in most places in the States, except maybe Colorado. Still, particularly on a Federal level, the Schedule of mushrooms is such that they are even considered worse than opiates, since according to the FDA and DEA, there is literally no medical benfefit to their use in any way. Obviously, this is complete and utter bullshit, but the reason I bring it up is that, since they are deemed to have absolutely no medicinal or nutritional supplement value whatsoever by our backward society, this poses an interesting quandary, particularly with your situation.

Because neither Big Pharma nor the nutritional supplement industries have any financial gain in funding University-based, control group studies for publication, with regard to their efficacy or use. So, my understanding is that with so few empirical studies on these drugs, particularly drug interactions, synergy, and contraindications while using other medications, I am forced to wonder how safe they really are for someone like you, who is taking a small medicine cabinet of medications that effect your central nervous system.

I am not saying don't do them, of course. But be aware that drugs have a myriad of interactions with one another, and since psilocybin is considered medically and nutritionally useless by our myopic, oppressive society, it begs questions about their safety when combined with your medicine regimen.


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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: LSA Woodrose]
    #26511219 - 03/01/20 11:10 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

OP your post is a cry for help.

Go to a men's health clinic and get a prescription for testosterone replacement therapy (TRT).

Go to www.reddit.com/r/testosterone and read all the accounts of men who were on SSRI/anxiety meds for years and still felt like dog shit. 4 months of TRT and they feel like the men they always knew they could be.

You doctor who throws meds at you like candy is a jackass and doesn't know shit. Start reading about TRT, look it up on youtube. It will change your life. It is the answer you are looking for.

They even have telemedicine clinics now where you do the doc appt via skype and then they mail you the medicine and the equipment.


Edited by SeekingAnswers (03/01/20 11:13 AM)


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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: SeekingAnswers] * 1
    #26511269 - 03/01/20 11:41 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Read the thread title much?

No guy in his 20s is low on T.
OP is 40 and depressed for 20 years.


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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: feldman114]
    #26511278 - 03/01/20 11:48 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Try waiting longer in between trips next time, 2 weeks is usually good. The effects really are quite diminished if you dose multiple days in a row.


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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: feldman114]
    #26511341 - 03/01/20 12:35 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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feldman114 said:
Read the thread title much?

No guy in his 20s is low on T.
OP is 40 and depressed for 20 years.




Do YOU know how to read? I was telling the 40 year old OP that he should get a script for TRT.

Also, there's 20 year olds on TRT (legally with a script). You know nothing.


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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: SeekingAnswers] * 1
    #26511365 - 03/01/20 12:55 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Do YOU know how to read? I was telling the 40 year old OP that he should get a script for TRT.

Also, there's 20 year olds on TRT (legally with a script). You know nothing.




I'm positive that feldman114 read your post just fine. You were the one misrepresenting his response to you. He was saying that, since his depression started 20 years ago, while the OP was in his 20's, that your e-diagnosis of low serum testosterone is a pretty ham-fisted attempt at doling out completely unwarranted medical advice.

He was correlating his sequelae of symptoms from his 20's as an ongoing problem, and asserting, quite rationally, that the chance of a guy barely out of his teens having low testosterone is slim to none.

While we're on the topic, how the hell are you diagnosing low T in a 40 year old man or in a his 20 year old counterpart? Moreover, in what universe are you qualified to make the determination that you should advise him to get a script for HRT? Are you privy to a blood panel that may or may not include DHT, Total Serum Testosterone, epi-testosterone, Free Testosterone, etc.? (Although epi is used almost exclusively for doping tests) Honestly, its pretty irresponsible to tell someone so definitively that they must have low test, based solely on symptoms of depression.

Not to suggest the OP doesn't have lowered test levels, particularly with all the meds he is taking. But how about we let his doctor order some blood tests before advising him to go on anabolic steroids, okay?


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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: LSA Woodrose]
    #26511381 - 03/01/20 01:06 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

A script means you get diagnosed by a doctor.

The only way a doctor gives you a script is via a low T diagnosis based on a blood panel.

It is ENTIRELY possible the OP has had low T since he was 20. I did.

I shouldn't have to spell this out.

Any man that's at the point of consuming illegal drugs to treat medical symptoms should have no hangups about exploring the testosterone angle with a qualified doctor (you GP is *not* qualified on the TRT issue). Your GP (all of them really) will ignore the TRT option and throw you SSRIs and benzos like its Halloween candy. You need to find a doctor that specializes in TRT.

Testosterone is not trenbolone, so stop trying to scaremonger by mentioning AAS/roids. Testosterone is bio-identical, your body knows exactly what to do with it, it is not a foreign substance like an SSRI is.

This place is weird.

One last note, with all the pharmaceuticals the OP has been taking, and for the length of time he has, I'd bet good money on his T levels being majorly FUCKED.


Edited by SeekingAnswers (03/01/20 01:18 PM)


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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: SeekingAnswers]
    #26511397 - 03/01/20 01:18 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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SeekingAnswers said:
A script means you get diagnosed by a doctor.

The only way a doctor gives you a script is via a low T diagnosis based on a blood panel.

It is ENTIRELY possible the OP has had low T since he was 20.

I shouldn't have to spell this out.

Any man that's at the point of consuming illegal drugs to treat medical symptoms should have no hangups about exploring the testosterone angle with a qualified doctor. Testosterone is not trenbolone, so stop trying to scaremonger by mention AAS/roids.

This place is weird.




Yes, but my point, and I suspect feldman's as well, was you didn't say all this. You said, twice by the way, that he should run to a clinic and get a script for testosterone. Now, let me be clear about something. I am in the medical field. I'm a doctor of chiropractic. Now, while I am the first to admit that this, in and of itself, does not make me an expert on pharmacology or endocrinology, I have made extensive studies on topics like this, particularly since I am an avid fitness buff, amateur bodybuilder, and fanatical cyclist.

So here's the thing you may or may not realize, and pay attention to this because it matters: These men's health clinics, both brick and mortar offices and the online services where you send in your bloodwork, pay a "script fee" and order hormones are NOT the most judicious entities. Many border on being quite feckless with regard to their prescribing hormones like testosterone, HCG, HGH, IGF-1, and a whole host of other anabolics and performance enhancers. My point is that you don't have to actually need testosterone for these dubiously labeled "Life Extension" or "Men's Health" Clinics to give you drugs. For reasons passing understanding, it is absurdly easy for these clinics to get you drugs like anabolic steroids, even with normal, healthy levels of serum testosterone. And I have seen MANY, many, many bodybuilders get androgens and other anabolics with perfectly fine serum testosterone levels, because the doctors, who are basically glorified salesmen, know how to ask the right leading questions to elicit fabricated symptoms that allow them to write scripts irrespective of bloodwork.

So, again, when you said "go get a script," perhaps you meant "Go get an exam, some bloodwork, and a diagnosis, and only then ask your doctor to write a script."

But that isn't what you said, now is it?


Edit: Oh and "scaremongering by mentioning 'roids?" Really? Just what, precisely, do you think anabolic sterioids are? Any ester of Testosterone, in case you weren't aware. Whether boutique drugs like Deca, anadrol, anavar, Sustanon, etc., or ANY hormone med with the word "Testosterone" in it. Such as Testosterone Cypionate, Testosterone Enthanthate, Testosterone Proprionate, and every other testosterone compound prescribed by a doctor...lol or gym rat.


Edited by LSA Woodrose (03/01/20 01:27 PM)


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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: LSA Woodrose]
    #26511413 - 03/01/20 01:29 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

OP, I'm not wasting time on that LSA guy. You cried out for help, and I gave you the answer that personally worked for me.

Get your T levels checked. You need to get total T and free T checked. Insurance will cover it if you have your GP doctor order the blood panel test.

Good luck man.


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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: SeekingAnswers] * 1
    #26511421 - 03/01/20 01:38 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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OP, I'm not wasting time on that LSA guy.




I don't think you're allowed to talk about me and then claim you're not wasting time on me.

Just saying. :laugh:


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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: SeekingAnswers] * 1
    #26511465 - 03/01/20 02:04 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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You doctor who throws meds at you like candy is a jackass and doesn't know shit. Start reading about TRT, look it up on youtube. It will change your life. It is the answer you are looking for.

They even have telemedicine clinics now where you do the doc appt via skype and then they mail you the medicine and the equipment.




Thought I would quote the ‘roided up claim that was made, just in case anyone forgot what was said.
It’s also mildly funny.  :grin:

Can I get some opiates and benzos thru telemedicine too? :crazy2:


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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Shr00mEater]
    #26511884 - 03/01/20 07:28 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Taking 3 g then taking qnother 3g is dangerous. Please listen yo the advice we al give about dosage. Next time let it go and last the whole duration. There are phases that happen, the last third seems to be the biggest mind fuck


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