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5-htp, SAMe, ect. For a healthier state of mind
    #2650942 - 05/07/04 07:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Anybody have much experience with either of these supplements? Having been interested in giving 5-htp a try for some time, I finally got around to picking up some up today. 

I had been been thinking about the possibility that maybe..since 5-htp is the precursor to serotonin..would it not also potentially promote the production of other endogenous tryptamines?  I have heard of people reporting moreso vivid dreams while taking this stuff..it being my first day taking it, I don't know if this is actually true or not..but if DMT for example plays a role in dreaming as has been suggested..perhaps there is a connection there?

After reading  this article..it does imply that 5-htp is not a direct precursor to DMT.  However, by supplementing your body with it, in theory, the brain should be able to spare more of its own tryptamine/tryptophan to put towards the production of DMT, Melatonin, and other related compounds.

Which then brings us to another supplementary compound, SAMe.  I don't know very much about this stuff..but to quote from the site:

"SAMe is the master tuner as far as the chemistry of connection is concerned. It donates ?methyl? groups and helps to make naturally occurring tryptamines that are part of the brain?s well-tuned chemistry. The methylation of tryptamine, for example, results in DMT. The body can and does make SAMe from the constituent of protein, methionine. Having enough vitamin B6, B12 and folic acid helps the body maximise its production of SAMe."

So, I guess this SAMe compound might be pretty much essential in the production of endogenous tryptamines?  I'm suddenly very interested in finding out if they have this stuff for sale around here..  :wink:


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Re: 5-htp, SAMe, ect. For a healthier state of mind [Re: ekomstop]
    #2651875 - 05/08/04 12:34 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Interesting, I never thought of it that way... by adding to your cache of tryptamine precursurs, maybe your brain can get satisfy its serotonin level with plenty more material left over for fun stuff like DMT :smile:


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Re: 5-htp, SAMe, ect. For a healthier state of mind [Re: ekomstop]
    #2652764 - 05/08/04 08:38 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

too bad ya can't get TRP (tryptophan) for human use in the USSA anymore...
(hmmm, lotta TPR in sunflower seeds...)(& of course, milk, & turkey... hooooboy am i sleeepy...)

there are other methyl donors available...
DMAE & DMG & TMC (betaine) come to mind...
SAMe sounds great but is sorta pricey for me, ususally...

you might want to consider taking "free-radical quenching" nutrients as well (vitamin & other anti-oxidant nutrients, mostly) since many of these Me- donors can initiate free-radical chain reactions...


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Re: 5-htp, SAMe, ect. For a healthier state of mind [Re: gnrm23]
    #2653442 - 05/08/04 02:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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gnrm23 said:
you might want to consider taking "free-radical quenching" nutrients as well (vitamin & other anti-oxidant nutrients, mostly) since many of these Me- donors can initiate fre-radical chain reactions...



Good point. Vitamins C & E, Selenium (trace amounts), Copper, Alpha Lipoic Acid & Beta Carotene are a few anti-oxidants that can be supplemented.


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