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The ontology of Mete Ŋal
    #26508598 - 02/28/20 05:05 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Has anyone heard of the ALL WE ALL (THEM OF) community?

A friend of mine recently showed me a little pamphlet he got from them and I went to their website (allweall.info) which referenced philosophical ideas like "micro-limited perspectives" within a macrocosmic experience, non-existence and existence as co-dependent, and ideas about "dimensional transcendence"). They've also got some weirder (and seemingly gnostic) views but I can't find discussions on this anywhere. There's a "public dialogue" on the website but I am specifically looking for anything from a third party to better understand who and what it is.

Also just curious if anyone knows how to get a physical copy of those pamphlets.


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Re: The ontology of Mete Ŋal [Re: abraxasdisciple]
    #26510282 - 02/29/20 07:24 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Congratulations on your first post! :yesnod: :cheers:


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Re: The ontology of Mete Ŋal [Re: abraxasdisciple]
    #26510305 - 02/29/20 07:40 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I went to that site owing to my own Gnostic interests. Why did you not ask your friend how he obtained the pamphlets? If you subscribe, they ask for a one-time $1.00 contribution and a PayPal page. THAT is immediately suspicious to me. Why does anyone sell something, sight unseen for $1.00. Personally, I remain with classic literature to which Abraxas/Abrasax belongs among the Basilidian Gnostics.


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Re: The ontology of Mete Ŋal [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #26511243 - 03/01/20 11:25 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

He got it from a bookshop in Philadelphia (not sure what shop, looked like a zine)...
I've been on a three day hunt through mysticism/spirituality/cult forums for any information outside of just their website. I ended up paying the $1.00 and there was some narrative poetry and fiction on the site (along with some mythology and cosmology stuff too). I'm interested in it because I kinda just want to be entertained by a story and maybe get to glean something along the way for my own path. The site only had book one but the material I first was shown was book six. That's majorly why I'm looking.


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Re: The ontology of Mete Ŋal [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #26511359 - 03/01/20 12:52 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks Markos!

I love the classics, just curious about modern retellings and allegories using these motifs is all.
You seem to know and care a lot about the gnostics.


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Re: The ontology of Mete Ŋal [Re: abraxasdisciple]
    #26511794 - 03/01/20 06:06 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I don't rightly know anyone at all who identifies as Gnostic to care about. I do possess an inner-directed orientation with regard to insights which has ontological priority over many mainstream theological interpretations. I have read a number of classic texts and I was introduced to Gnostic religion "when I was back there in seminary school" decades ago. As life improved over my lifespan I moved from a life-denying Gnostic attitude to a more life-affirming one so that Gnostic religion yielded to a more Kabbalistic attitude wherein instead of fleeing life I have actually  participated in its restoration (Tikkun) through my roles as counselor, psychotherapist and hypnotherapist.


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Re: The ontology of Mete Ŋal [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #26512335 - 03/02/20 06:03 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I'm fairly new to all of it myself. Only have been reading about the gnostics for a little over a year. I grew up in a Christian commune and had tried to put all religion and spirituality behind me for the past decade until more recently. I read Carl Jung's "The Red Book" and got turned on to gnosticism through him. I'm most interested in non-dual ideologies. Trying to find philosophies and ideas through metaphors or allegories which connect two opposites as singular (and I'm interested in explanations of the macrocosmic). I've never read or heard about Tikkun but that sounds very interesting to me.
I found a copy of Hans Jonas' "The Gnostic Religion" in a used book store that has helped as an overview. And have read much of Nag Hammadi Library.
Before this year, the only interest I had in all of it was from Herman Hesse or Nikos Kazantzakis in classical fiction literature (which is still my preferred genre for reading).


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Re: The ontology of Mete Ŋal [Re: abraxasdisciple]
    #26515452 - 03/03/20 08:33 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Well you seem like you're well on your way (where to I cannot Know).
Tikkun, as a major aspect of Kabbalah puts one in a kind of cosmic participation as a bringer of Light. I just bought yet another book (Kabbalah and Meditation by Aryeh Kaplan) but I realize that I am more interested in Hermetic Qabalah than Jewish Kabbalah owing to my Hebrew school drop-out status at age 11. A working knowledge of Hebrew really is necessary for anything but a superficial understanding of the specifically Jewish form. This is a late-life re-introduction to Judaism since a long-lost friend visited me and later mailed me two books on transmigration of the soul (gilgul) in esoteric Judaism. It is HUGE among the Kabbalists and Hasidim although rarely heard among mainstream Jews.

Jonas' book is one of those classics along with R.M. Grant's Gnosticism and Early Christianity and R. McL. Wilson's The Gnostic Problem: A Study of the Relations between Hellenistic Judaism and the Gnostic Heresy. Elaine Pagels' The Gnostic Gospels may be too young but will probably become a classic as well as her following books).

Here is a resource for you: www.gnosis.org


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