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40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. 1
#26508536 - 02/28/20 04:26 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hey guys,
this is my first post on this forum. I came here to tell you my story, in a short text.
So to be brief, Im a 40 years old dad, one son, still with the wife. I work in the healthcare domain. Ive Been diagnosed with major dépression and general anxiety 20 years ago.
Yes, Im on medication. Venlafaxine 150 mg daily, 300 mg of Bupropion daily, 150 mg of Seroquel 150 mg XRT daily. Nice mix.
So I started to Read about psylocibin like a month ago.Im an impulsive personnes, so on that month, I did some deep research. Read about the interactions , how they work on serotonin and other hormones. Let me Tell You that my serotonin is frigging low. Never happy, never having fun, always tired, etc.
So There I go. Last night, I took 1.5g of some 920 Room Golden teacher, very potent. Needless to Say, I started with 0.5mg to see how my body would react. Took one gram and hour later. Had à mellow feeling with a couple Smiles, high but I had all my normal senses. I had some vibrants colors, clearly because my pupils were fully dilated.
Smoked two bong hits from some OG Lindsay. Felt very comfortable for 2 hours. And then I thought about tomorrow.
I skipped my 150mg effexor and my 150 Seroquel XRT today. I plan to redo the trip tonight, starting with 2 grams. I sleep in a room in the basement because Im snoring like a bear.
Very dark, il light a candle. Got Spotify with some playlists, 4 bottles of Perrier, 2 mg of clonazepam, 50 mg of Seroquel in case I would lose control. But I dont think it Will happen, did a lot of introspections in the past years, I know my Fears and I can control them.
Sooo my question : Do you think 2 grams is too low if you check my pharmacology ? I didnt tappered anything yet, just skipped my effexor and Seroquel this morning.
Thanks for reading me!
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Snixx40] 1
#26508566 - 02/28/20 04:47 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ugh, I resent the American healthcare “industry” for putting people on so many medications.
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Snixx40]
#26508573 - 02/28/20 04:51 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Seeing as you got pretty normal effects from 1.5g, I'd imagine 2g would be adequate for a little more psychedelic effects - not too much more, but maybe some mild hallucinations like walls breathing, pronounced textures and shadows, and maybe trails of light or silhouettes. 2g almost certainly won't put you in a place where you feel out of control.
I should preface that with saying that I'm surprised that you had any effects with those medications - many will find they need to have them out of their system for months before noticing any effect. Also, many experience a tolerance buildup when taking similar strength doses consecutive days in a row. So, if you are looking to take them tonight, you may want to take more towards 3g.
What is it that you're looking for with taking them?
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Snixx40]
#26508577 - 02/28/20 04:53 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Snixx40]
#26508578 - 02/28/20 04:53 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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2g is okay. little increase is nessesary with such a short break between trips. good luck
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: footpath]
#26508583 - 02/28/20 04:59 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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footpath said: Seeing as you got pretty normal effects from 1.5g, I'd imagine 2g would be adequate for a little more psychedelic effects - not too much more, but maybe some mild hallucinations like walls breathing, pronounced textures and shadows, and maybe trails of light or silhouettes. 2g almost certainly won't put you in a place where you feel out of control.
I should preface that with saying that I'm surprised that you had any effects with those medications - many will find they need to have them out of their system for months before noticing any effect. Also, many experience a tolerance buildup when taking similar strength doses consecutive days in a row. So, if you are looking to take them tonight, you may want to take more towards 3g.
What is it that you're looking for with taking them?
Thanks for your response. What Im looking for, is a deep introspection, with maybe flashes of some memories, that would help me , in long term, to cure a part of my depression. Diminish my meds in a close future, and have good experiences that Will increase my mood for a couple Weeks.
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Snixx40]
#26508614 - 02/28/20 05:13 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I agree with the recommendation of using 3 grams instead of 2 with your previous dose 24 hours ago. That is a very good way to go into the mushrooms experience beforehand. Taking time to focus on what it is you want to improve on in life, and what you need to overcome mentally that is holding you back. As you get into a stronger, more conscious/aware head space remember your intent, if something unpleasant from the past comes up there is a reason; don't fight it but let yourself give in in order to overcome it.
Enjoy YOUR time, and happy to read you have chosen this route for self improvement!
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: O_Dweeds]
#26508745 - 02/28/20 06:55 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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O_Dweeds said: I agree with the recommendation of using 3 grams instead of 2 with your previous dose 24 hours ago. That is a very good way to go into the mushrooms experience beforehand. Taking time to focus on what it is you want to improve on in life, and what you need to overcome mentally that is holding you back. As you get into a stronger, more conscious/aware head space remember your intent, if something unpleasant from the past comes up there is a reason; don't fight it but let yourself give in in order to overcome it.
Enjoy YOUR time, and happy to read you have chosen this route for self improvement!
Thanks for your thoughts! Il go with 3g, and Im really looking forward to go with the flow! Going to ingest them at 10:30 pm , easthern Time. Il keep you guys updated .
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Snixx40]
#26508846 - 02/28/20 08:17 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I believe you will see after the trip how much more medically powerful shrooms are than any drug to make u 'feel better'.
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Cosmic Eye]
#26508870 - 02/28/20 08:41 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Typically want to wait 2 weeks between trips unless you microdose. Hope it goes well for you, it may be underwhelming with tolerance and meds.
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Cosmic Eye]
#26508874 - 02/28/20 08:45 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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As far as your original question about dosage, everyone else here handled it nicely. But as far as the process you have planned to cure your depression, I am hesitant. It seems as if you are placing too much importance on the drug (shrooms) itself rather than the process. Your talk about brain chemistry indicates to me that you want the drug to cure you. The drug, by itself, wont solve anything. But used in the right context, it can help you get a new perspective. I would recommend waiting at least a week or two and focus on the journey, rather than the drug.
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I agree with the recommendation of using 3 grams instead of 2 with your previous dose 24 hours ago. That is a very good way to go into the mushrooms experience beforehand. Taking time to focus on what it is you want to improve on in life, and what you need to overcome mentally that is holding you back. As you get into a stronger, more conscious/aware head space remember your intent, if something unpleasant from the past comes up there is a reason; don't fight it but let yourself give in in order to overcome it.
O_Dweeds touched on this, but this is really just the the start. Good luck. Do what you got to do, and it's totally fine if you trip tonight or tomorrow, but just keep this in mind.
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Raccoon]
#26508950 - 02/28/20 09:54 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Didn't check if your meds were SSRI's but be aware that i think its a bad idea to mix ssri's and psychedelics, can't remember why or if being off them for one day is enough but just pointing out you might want to double check. i could be wrong
I'd also vote for 3 grams instead of two. You sound confident in your ability to handle anything unpleasant if it arises, and especially since you have an emergency benzo, at least im assuming that drug you listed was a benzo. Taking more could be a tad overwhelming at first but once you get used to it the benefits will be more potent, in my opinion.
I'm sure you're well aware, thousands of people have cured their depression/anxiety/etc with psychedelics. I'm one of em and am very happy to hear you're taking the step and by the sound of it you did your homework well and should be in for some very pleasant times. A depth of happiness you might not have known was possible that'll bleed into the rest of your life.
And I suppose you could check out the 'how to trip' link in my sig. Some good tips and links to other guides in there
And I think i can kinda see what racoons saying. While it is entirely possible that you have some sort of anatomically disfunctional brain that causes your depression/fatigue, I think for most people diagnosed with depression that is just a narrative. I mean, do they ever measure your brains transmitters? Based on the process of my own diagnosis, you pretty much just tell them you're sad all the time so they just give you a prescription when really its just bad mental habits and an incorrect perspective that makes you sad. (im pretty sleep deprived, its possible im not making sense any more and am on a tangent)
TLDR: Its possible you could benefit from looking at it in a different way, trying to see that maybe your brain is not broken and needs pills or a chemical reset via shrooms to make it happy but rather needs a perspective shift. A perspective shift that mushrooms are very effective at giving you, of course.
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Psilosopherr] 1
#26509039 - 02/28/20 11:35 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Psilosopherr said: Didn't check if your meds were SSRI's but be aware that i think its a bad idea to mix ssri's and psychedelics, can't remember why or if being off them for one day is enough but just pointing out you might want to double check. i could be wrong
I'd also vote for 3 grams instead of two. You sound confident in your ability to handle anything unpleasant if it arises, and especially since you have an emergency benzo, at least im assuming that drug you listed was a benzo. Taking more could be a tad overwhelming at first but once you get used to it the benefits will be more potent, in my opinion.
I'm sure you're well aware, thousands of people have cured their depression/anxiety/etc with psychedelics. I'm one of em and am very happy to hear you're taking the step and by the sound of it you did your homework well and should be in for some very pleasant times. A depth of happiness you might not have known was possible that'll bleed into the rest of your life.
And I suppose you could check out the 'how to trip' link in my sig. Some good tips and links to other guides in there
And I think i can kinda see what racoons saying. While it is entirely possible that you have some sort of anatomically disfunctional brain that causes your depression/fatigue, I think for most people diagnosed with depression that is just a narrative. I mean, do they ever measure your brains transmitters? Based on the process of my own diagnosis, you pretty much just tell them you're sad all the time so they just give you a prescription when really its just bad mental habits and an incorrect perspective that makes you sad. (im pretty sleep deprived, its possible im not making sense any more and am on a tangent)
TLDR: Its possible you could benefit from looking at it in a different way, trying to see that maybe your brain is not broken and needs pills or a chemical reset via shrooms to make it happy but rather needs a perspective shift. A perspective shift that mushrooms are very effective at giving you, of course.
Hey phylo, wow thanks so much for caring.
Effexor is an snri, it could interfere, but in the medical pharma, 150 mg of Let's Say effexor, its nothing. So the risk is practically non exitant.
So hey about my trip took 3g at 22h15, 23h15 nothing. Took another gram, went outside, 2 bongs of Grandpa's breath ( OG Kush x Granddadyurple) Man lol Im really having trouble typing right now hahahahhha,
Anyway taking the pot fuclng did it. Man my pillow is a moving sea, Jimmy Hendrix is all around me,like a Hurricane.
But I want sooo Much more. So took 3 more g. My face is hurting, glued smile from ear to ear. Euphoria is almost overwhelming keep ya updated love yall hey also had to urinate look at myself in the Mirror I had the Feeling of seeing a complete stranger. Last time I felt so happy was when I was 16. Peace
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Snixx40]
#26509112 - 02/29/20 01:21 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Earth to Snizz40...
How's the view? 💜💜💜😊
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Snixx40]
#26509149 - 02/29/20 02:35 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Just to stop any potential worries, there is no interaction between SSRIs and psilocin. The SSRIs block the 5-HT2a receptors used by psilocin, so will diminish a trip, or stop the trip happening at all.
SNRIs are newer, so I can not confirm whether or not there are any interactions. A colleague of mine though took 5 dried grams of Golden teachers while also taking SNRIs, and had a great trip with no problems. I had done some research on his behalf, and nothing bad came back from Google.....
Regarding the comments that you should focus on the integration to cure depression, and not not the drug, I absolutely agree. HOWEVER, regardless, the drugs will make you feel better afterwards for a while, the so-called “after-glow”. I have been on a regimen of 3.8g dry B+ every two weeks. It got to the point where my depression is not at the forefront of my thoughts, and the after glow is lasting weeks. I’m now taking a few months off mushrooms to fully integrate the last few months’ worth of trips.
Good luck with your journey, DJ Ed
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: GreggTC]
#26509220 - 02/29/20 05:05 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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GreggTC said: Earth to Snizz40...
How's the view? 💜💜💜😊
Lol, hopefully he posts back.
These kind of threads make me nervous. Dude is a depressed walking pharmacy, then doubles his dose because he isn’t feeling enough. Then, if this post follows the normal course of things... we won’t ever get an update. I am forced to assume he is probably dead. 
Off topic but; Fuck Michael Pollan, hopefully op gets what he is after.
Snizz40! We demand a trip report!!!!!
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Shr00mEater]
#26509311 - 02/29/20 07:13 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hope all is well for you
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Enkidu]
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: HamHead]
#26509424 - 02/29/20 08:53 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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He might be napping.
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Shr00mEater]
#26509686 - 02/29/20 11:59 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Shr00mEater said: Off topic but; Fuck Michael Pollan
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: igorcarajo] 2
#26509703 - 02/29/20 12:18 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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These kind of threads make me nervous. Dude is a depressed walking pharmacy, then doubles his dose because he isn’t feeling enough. Then, if this post follows the normal course of things... we won’t ever get an update. I am forced to assume he is probably dead. 
i say this in the kindest way possible but wtf are you talkin about
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Shr00mEater]
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GreggTC said: Earth to Snizz40...
How's the view? ��������
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GreggTC said: Earth to Snizz40...
How's the view? 💜💜💜😊
Lol, hopefully he posts back.
These kind of threads make me nervous. Dude is a depressed walking pharmacy, then doubles his dose because he isn’t feeling enough. Then, if this post follows the normal course of things... we won’t ever get an update. I am forced to assume he is probably dead. 
Off topic but; Fuck Michael Pollan, hopefully op gets what he is after.
Snizz40! We demand a trip report!!!!! 
Hey guys.
If I learned something really important last night, is you have to approach shrooms with a lot of respect.
When I was tripping last night, I did a very impulsive move by taking 3 more grams. Unfortunatly, impulsivity is one of my few weaknesses.
At one point, the euphoria was so overwhelming that my body became very tense. I started to have muscular spasms. The anxiety went in. I went to urinate, had trouble to stand up, my coordination was falling apart. My head was very lightheaded, and I started to fear an interaction with my pharmacology.
I was finally able to take over and calm myself, but I decided to be préventive and took my Seroquel and clonazepam. Buzz shutdown like 30 min later.
Next Time, my medication Will be tappered. I still have 14g of Hanoi Vietnam Blue shrooms, more potent. Il make sure to not make the same mistake twice.
Thanks all for the support, so yea Im still pretty much alive, lol.
Edited by Snixx40 (02/29/20 03:28 PM)
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Snixx40]
#26509893 - 02/29/20 03:20 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Take a break, stay clear of the meds a bit if you can, maybe try microdosing to ween off them, then take like 3g at night alone and wait.
See how it goes, ride it out either way, get a benchmark.
Thats my advice.
Let go of the idea of control, you gotta give that up completely.
Rest easy knowing its all meant to be. No matter what happens you can learn from it and even in the most difficult times if you can let go and accept things and stop fighting it, you may be very surprised what is experienced and revealed.
You learned valuable lessons already with the mushroom.
Part of the journey inward.
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Enkidu] 2
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The thing with mushrooms is...the more you try to be behind the wheel, the more likely you are to get lost. Get in the passenger seat, man. The mushies will get you where you NEED to go, not where you WANT to.
I know that sounds like a bunch of hippie BS, but it’s the best advice I’ve ever gotten.
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: feldman114]
#26509915 - 02/29/20 03:40 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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As said, letting go is paramount. If you push, it will push back harder.
Some anxiety/paranoia is common. But, you'll find that succumbing to the experience will quiet it as the effects start to cradle you.
Before you next take it, do some research into your medications and the possible interactions they may have. Psilocybin mushrooms have rather harmless substances, pharmacologically speaking. The most trouble usually comes from psychosomatic reactions. Be confident before you take them that they won't hurt you.
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Snixx40]
#26509998 - 02/29/20 04:32 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks for the update. I appreciate it. Did anything substantial come up during your trip? What was the part you liked the most?
Enkidu, glad to see you posting again and giving good advice.
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Shr00mEater]
#26510129 - 02/29/20 05:46 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Shr00mEater said: Thanks for the update. I appreciate it. Did anything substantial come up during your trip? What was the part you liked the most?
Enkidu, glad to see you posting again and giving good advice. 
Well, waves on walls and everything was pretty amazing. Also when I looked at the Mirror and looked at myself intensively, its hard to explain, but I was kind of unbound of my physical body. Also a bit later, the way I was seeing things, It was like a shattering Mirror, like a honeycomb view. When I was closing my eyes, it was like hundreds of quartz, with different colors. Also when I was tripping hard, my closet became the whole wall, There were things that keeped disappearing and reappering, but as said above from the experimental shroomers, I started to try to take control, and wasnt able to abandon myself completely.
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Shr00mEater said: Enkidu, glad to see you posting again and giving good advice. 
Howdy 
No mindfuck op? Im hearing lots of visuals
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Enkidu]
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Snixx40, when I read threads like this or hear stories like yours in real life, I worry. The big problem with hallucinogenics like mushrooms is that our current draconian laws have them neatly tucked into a Schedule I status, at least in most places in the States, except maybe Colorado. Still, particularly on a Federal level, the Schedule of mushrooms is such that they are even considered worse than opiates, since according to the FDA and DEA, there is literally no medical benfefit to their use in any way. Obviously, this is complete and utter bullshit, but the reason I bring it up is that, since they are deemed to have absolutely no medicinal or nutritional supplement value whatsoever by our backward society, this poses an interesting quandary, particularly with your situation.
Because neither Big Pharma nor the nutritional supplement industries have any financial gain in funding University-based, control group studies for publication, with regard to their efficacy or use. So, my understanding is that with so few empirical studies on these drugs, particularly drug interactions, synergy, and contraindications while using other medications, I am forced to wonder how safe they really are for someone like you, who is taking a small medicine cabinet of medications that effect your central nervous system.
I am not saying don't do them, of course. But be aware that drugs have a myriad of interactions with one another, and since psilocybin is considered medically and nutritionally useless by our myopic, oppressive society, it begs questions about their safety when combined with your medicine regimen.
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: LSA Woodrose]
#26511219 - 03/01/20 11:10 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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OP your post is a cry for help.
Go to a men's health clinic and get a prescription for testosterone replacement therapy (TRT).
Go to www.reddit.com/r/testosterone and read all the accounts of men who were on SSRI/anxiety meds for years and still felt like dog shit. 4 months of TRT and they feel like the men they always knew they could be.
You doctor who throws meds at you like candy is a jackass and doesn't know shit. Start reading about TRT, look it up on youtube. It will change your life. It is the answer you are looking for.
They even have telemedicine clinics now where you do the doc appt via skype and then they mail you the medicine and the equipment.
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: SeekingAnswers] 1
#26511269 - 03/01/20 11:41 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Read the thread title much?
No guy in his 20s is low on T. OP is 40 and depressed for 20 years.
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: feldman114]
#26511278 - 03/01/20 11:48 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Try waiting longer in between trips next time, 2 weeks is usually good. The effects really are quite diminished if you dose multiple days in a row.
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: feldman114]
#26511341 - 03/01/20 12:35 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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feldman114 said: Read the thread title much?
No guy in his 20s is low on T. OP is 40 and depressed for 20 years.
Do YOU know how to read? I was telling the 40 year old OP that he should get a script for TRT.
Also, there's 20 year olds on TRT (legally with a script). You know nothing.
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: SeekingAnswers] 1
#26511365 - 03/01/20 12:55 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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SeekingAnswers said: Do YOU know how to read? I was telling the 40 year old OP that he should get a script for TRT.
Also, there's 20 year olds on TRT (legally with a script). You know nothing.
I'm positive that feldman114 read your post just fine. You were the one misrepresenting his response to you. He was saying that, since his depression started 20 years ago, while the OP was in his 20's, that your e-diagnosis of low serum testosterone is a pretty ham-fisted attempt at doling out completely unwarranted medical advice.
He was correlating his sequelae of symptoms from his 20's as an ongoing problem, and asserting, quite rationally, that the chance of a guy barely out of his teens having low testosterone is slim to none.
While we're on the topic, how the hell are you diagnosing low T in a 40 year old man or in a his 20 year old counterpart? Moreover, in what universe are you qualified to make the determination that you should advise him to get a script for HRT? Are you privy to a blood panel that may or may not include DHT, Total Serum Testosterone, epi-testosterone, Free Testosterone, etc.? (Although epi is used almost exclusively for doping tests) Honestly, its pretty irresponsible to tell someone so definitively that they must have low test, based solely on symptoms of depression.
Not to suggest the OP doesn't have lowered test levels, particularly with all the meds he is taking. But how about we let his doctor order some blood tests before advising him to go on anabolic steroids, okay?
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: LSA Woodrose]
#26511381 - 03/01/20 01:06 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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A script means you get diagnosed by a doctor.
The only way a doctor gives you a script is via a low T diagnosis based on a blood panel.
It is ENTIRELY possible the OP has had low T since he was 20. I did.
I shouldn't have to spell this out.
Any man that's at the point of consuming illegal drugs to treat medical symptoms should have no hangups about exploring the testosterone angle with a qualified doctor (you GP is *not* qualified on the TRT issue). Your GP (all of them really) will ignore the TRT option and throw you SSRIs and benzos like its Halloween candy. You need to find a doctor that specializes in TRT.
Testosterone is not trenbolone, so stop trying to scaremonger by mentioning AAS/roids. Testosterone is bio-identical, your body knows exactly what to do with it, it is not a foreign substance like an SSRI is.
This place is weird.
One last note, with all the pharmaceuticals the OP has been taking, and for the length of time he has, I'd bet good money on his T levels being majorly FUCKED.
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: SeekingAnswers]
#26511397 - 03/01/20 01:18 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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SeekingAnswers said: A script means you get diagnosed by a doctor.
The only way a doctor gives you a script is via a low T diagnosis based on a blood panel.
It is ENTIRELY possible the OP has had low T since he was 20.
I shouldn't have to spell this out.
Any man that's at the point of consuming illegal drugs to treat medical symptoms should have no hangups about exploring the testosterone angle with a qualified doctor. Testosterone is not trenbolone, so stop trying to scaremonger by mention AAS/roids.
This place is weird.
Yes, but my point, and I suspect feldman's as well, was you didn't say all this. You said, twice by the way, that he should run to a clinic and get a script for testosterone. Now, let me be clear about something. I am in the medical field. I'm a doctor of chiropractic. Now, while I am the first to admit that this, in and of itself, does not make me an expert on pharmacology or endocrinology, I have made extensive studies on topics like this, particularly since I am an avid fitness buff, amateur bodybuilder, and fanatical cyclist.
So here's the thing you may or may not realize, and pay attention to this because it matters: These men's health clinics, both brick and mortar offices and the online services where you send in your bloodwork, pay a "script fee" and order hormones are NOT the most judicious entities. Many border on being quite feckless with regard to their prescribing hormones like testosterone, HCG, HGH, IGF-1, and a whole host of other anabolics and performance enhancers. My point is that you don't have to actually need testosterone for these dubiously labeled "Life Extension" or "Men's Health" Clinics to give you drugs. For reasons passing understanding, it is absurdly easy for these clinics to get you drugs like anabolic steroids, even with normal, healthy levels of serum testosterone. And I have seen MANY, many, many bodybuilders get androgens and other anabolics with perfectly fine serum testosterone levels, because the doctors, who are basically glorified salesmen, know how to ask the right leading questions to elicit fabricated symptoms that allow them to write scripts irrespective of bloodwork.
So, again, when you said "go get a script," perhaps you meant "Go get an exam, some bloodwork, and a diagnosis, and only then ask your doctor to write a script."
But that isn't what you said, now is it?
Edit: Oh and "scaremongering by mentioning 'roids?" Really? Just what, precisely, do you think anabolic sterioids are? Any ester of Testosterone, in case you weren't aware. Whether boutique drugs like Deca, anadrol, anavar, Sustanon, etc., or ANY hormone med with the word "Testosterone" in it. Such as Testosterone Cypionate, Testosterone Enthanthate, Testosterone Proprionate, and every other testosterone compound prescribed by a doctor...lol or gym rat.
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: LSA Woodrose]
#26511413 - 03/01/20 01:29 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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OP, I'm not wasting time on that LSA guy. You cried out for help, and I gave you the answer that personally worked for me.
Get your T levels checked. You need to get total T and free T checked. Insurance will cover it if you have your GP doctor order the blood panel test.
Good luck man.
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: SeekingAnswers] 1
#26511421 - 03/01/20 01:38 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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SeekingAnswers said: OP, I'm not wasting time on that LSA guy.
I don't think you're allowed to talk about me and then claim you're not wasting time on me.
Just saying.
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: SeekingAnswers] 1
#26511465 - 03/01/20 02:04 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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SeekingAnswers said: You doctor who throws meds at you like candy is a jackass and doesn't know shit. Start reading about TRT, look it up on youtube. It will change your life. It is the answer you are looking for.
They even have telemedicine clinics now where you do the doc appt via skype and then they mail you the medicine and the equipment.
Thought I would quote the ‘roided up claim that was made, just in case anyone forgot what was said. It’s also mildly funny. 
Can I get some opiates and benzos thru telemedicine too?
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Shr00mEater]
#26511884 - 03/01/20 07:28 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Taking 3 g then taking qnother 3g is dangerous. Please listen yo the advice we al give about dosage. Next time let it go and last the whole duration. There are phases that happen, the last third seems to be the biggest mind fuck
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Cosmic Eye] 1
#26511960 - 03/01/20 08:35 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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All that matters in the end is that he replied with his update and said how phenomenal of a time he had. The advice that was given on this thread was nothing shy of great.
Advice led him to success - which is what he has been looking for.
I'm glad you were able to experience the magic of the mushrooms! They can love you and fuck you harder than any women has ever had. So when I say this.. I mean it.. tread lightly buddy.
Sometimes mother mushroom gets a little too freaky and tries to probe you. Can be very offputting. Or she can kiss you down with her gentle lips and let you see the beauty within...
Tread lightly brother.
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
#26512057 - 03/01/20 10:42 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hi guys ! Sorry to interrupt the party, but Im reading a lot of divergences of opinions, which is fine I guess.
But hey, I'm mature enough to accept the consequences of my actions. I mean look, Ive been on thèse meds for like 5 years, exceptionnel the Bupropion, which I just began.
I did a shitload of coke with alcool, today Im sober but once upon a time not too far away, I was drinking à bottle of scotch or gin,.between 50-60% , per week.
Ive Been on opioids, on/off. Cannabis and hashich fan. So yea if you look at the picture,I am.fucking lucky I had no psychosis, delirium, mentals trauma, or schyzophrenia symptoms.
Snorted Dilaudid, Morphine and Codeine.
That Said, I am tired to be a walking zombie. My medication is screwing Up the connection with my soul, my spiritual canal, everything related to my mind. Yea, Im tired to be like this.
February 8 2020, I tried to commit suicide. Could have died but my wife Found me. After this épisode, I was desperate and started to look for alternatives to help against my depression. One of these was Psylocibin. And Im really Willing to give it a try. I mean, resetting my brain would be the nicest thing that happens in my life.
Sorry bout the orthograph, I was a bit stoned when typing. Peace
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Snixx40]
#26512132 - 03/02/20 12:12 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hey snixx,
Really sorry to hear of your attempt but really pleased your wife found you.
If you have my kind of “luck”, mushrooms will show to you personally the phenomenal beauty of simply being alive. I tend to find mushrooms are gentle when you fundamentally go to them for help.
Mushrooms saved my life. Good luck on your new path ✊🏻 DJ Ed
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Snixx40]
#26512244 - 03/02/20 03:08 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Snixx40 said: Hi guys ! Sorry to interrupt the party, but Im reading a lot of divergences of opinions, which is fine I guess.
Yeah, its the natural outgrowth of message forums. lol
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Snixx40 said:But hey, I'm mature enough to accept the consequences of my actions. I mean look, Ive been on thèse meds for like 5 years, exceptionnel the Bupropion, which I just began.
I did a shitload of coke with alcool, today Im sober but once upon a time not too far away, I was drinking à bottle of scotch or gin,.between 50-60% , per week.
Ive Been on opioids, on/off.
I am VERY HAPPY to hear that you aren't on those anymore. I'm sure I don't have to tell you this, but abusing alcohol and opiods will only exacerbate psychological problems. Sounds like you figured this out and got yourself clean already.
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Snixx40 said: Cannabis and hashich fan. So yea if you look at the picture,I am.fucking lucky I had no psychosis, delirium, mentals trauma, or schyzophrenia symptoms.
Let me ask you something. Have you found, through your own experimenting and use, that weed and hash help your symptoms at all? Because I have heard and seen this go both ways. Some people who have deeply rooted issues are vastly helped by various cannabinoids, and others find they can make things worse. What has your experience been?
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I'm assuming from your post that you don't do this anymore, right?
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Snixx40 said:That Said, I am tired to be a walking zombie. My medication is screwing Up the connection with my soul, my spiritual canal, everything related to my mind. Yea, Im tired to be like this.
Possibly dumb question, but have you been in therapy? I don't mean that you go to an MD (psychiatrist) he asks you perfunctory questions like, "How are you feeling?" "How are you sleeping?" "How do you feel your meds are working?" and then writes a bunch of scripts to whatever drugs the pharma reps gave him free samples of to try and hawk them to his office. I am talking about actual interactive therapy between you and a professional and perhaps group therapy? I ask because as some have suggested in this thread, maybe if you can get to the root of the problems you are facing, you may be able to be weaned off all your meds. Under your doctor's supervision and permission of course!
You know, we chiropractors have a cute little saying. It is, unfortunately not always as true as it is cute. But there is some truth in it in many cases. "When your doctor prescribed you Lithium or Thorazine, did he determine that those chemicals were somehow missing from your brain?" (I don't think you're on those drugs, but I used them as an example)
lol I know that's a simplistic idea, but as I said there's some truth there. Many of the meds doctors prescribe are inherently toxic, and while they are often a necessary evil, remember that your body, most likely, isn't "missing" those chemicals the way that a person who is lactose intolerant is missing the enzyme lactase, which digests the lactose in dairy. My point is, if you aren't missing those chemicals you're taking in your central nervous system, then perhaps there is a therapeutic path to get you off all those meds in time?
Only you and your doctors will know that, in the end. But maybe you and your doctors can eventually find a path away from those meds, who knows, right?
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Snixx40 said: February 8 2020, I tried to commit suicide. Could have died but my wife Found me. After this épisode, I was desperate and started to look for alternatives to help against my depression.
No joke, man! Glad she found you. I am also glad you're looking for possible alternatives to these meds, which, ironically enough, have their own sequelae of markedly negative psychological and central nervous system symptoms. I hope that you and your doctors can find a way to get you away from those meds, and that you can be weaned off of them someday.
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Snixx40 said: One of these was Psylocibin. And Im really Willing to give it a try. I mean, resetting my brain would be the nicest thing that happens in my life.
Sorry bout the orthograph, I was a bit stoned when typing. Peace
No worries! You should read some of my posts! LMAO Like this one, for instance.
Hey, I am all for the use of hallucinogens. I honestly wish the medical community would do the research and get these drugs off the Schedule I list, because I truly believe they have vast potential for helping people such as yourself, and not just used recreationally as people like me do. I think that someone like yourself, who has the issues you do, should perhaps try to make sure you have some kind of a trip-sitter, just in case you find yourself going down a rabbit-hole and have trouble finding your way out.
Others have already cautioned you about high doses, so I won't.
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: LSA Woodrose]
#26512246 - 03/02/20 03:16 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I’d be wary of a person who isn’t depressed with how things are. I guess some people can dodge that bullet but down here in the nitty gritty, man it wears on a brother. This isn’t how we’re supposed to be doing things.
There’s no way this many people should be on drugs for feeling like their life is lacking in quality.. if finally everybody is on them will we admit it COULD possibly be something we’re doing?
Who knows man it feels like the car is out of control and all you can do is just hold on and brace for impact. Psychedelics are a blessing, is it really any surprise they’re Schedule 1 as bad as it gets dr00gz? Or maybe because they’ll show you just how harmful it is to worship a made up bottom line that’s killing everything except Walmart shelves..
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Amanita86] 1
#26512336 - 03/02/20 06:05 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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There's so much hubbub going on here... Don't let the jabberwocky advice about your life decisions going around here make you any less certain of the course You decided to take. Don't change up anything you're doing based on the advice being given, except in relation to the questions you actually pose. It's all subjective to each individual's experience and their own misinterpretations of your situation.
You've made up your mind with the course you'd like to take and you're being cautious about it because of the unknowns. As far as it seems, you just had a bit of an overreaction to the normal effects of the substance which lead you to get paranoid and try to stop it. You even put more drugs on top of it and still didn't have any kind of adverse health effects. As I said, the majority of adverse effects are psychosomatic - which is clearly what happened with you.
Read up on how the substances in psilocybin mushrooms effect your body, read up on how your medications effect your body. Draw parallels. Usually with the type of medications you're talking about, the interaction is that your body is inhibited to the effects of psilocybin mushrooms. Maybe that's not the case. Either way, you should be able to find that information even with the 'limited' studies done on psilocybin (they're not that limited.)
People get their nuts twisted about the whole 'harm prevention' shit around here and end up just giving stupid advice that is far from what the OP needs to hear. Do you, bud. There's a lot of knowledgeable people around here with the advice you're looking for - you just have to wade through the muck a bit.
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: footpath]
#26512502 - 03/02/20 09:26 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've been there. Drank too much, did the wrong drugs, got depressed and wound up on Seroquel. After I sobered up, I stopped taking the pharmaceuticals and, eventually, was able to feel happy again. Seroquel just took away all emotion for me, basically masking the symptoms but not really ever helping anything. It's hard to stop those pharmaceuticals, the withdrawals are brutal, the emotional swings were intense, but once everything stabilizes...
Fast forward a year later, after I made it my mission to be healthy in every way, mushrooms taught me how to laugh and see the beauty in the world, something I had forgotten how to do. You've got a wife and kid, that sounds like something beautiful. Don't give up, it gets better.
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Nauthere]
#26512693 - 03/02/20 11:30 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Im feeling a lot of empathy from you guys, which Makes me pretty happy.
Il try to answers some questions the best I can. After my suicidal attempt, a psychiatrist took me as a patient. I started a therapy, and I meet the person once a week. Also subscribe to a therapy group, ppl who are depressed too.
In my case, my main problem is an incapacity to do normal day things, having probs to get out of bed, ( which is why Im taking bupropion.) Suppose to give fuel. Takes 4-6 Weeks to take effect, Been almost 4 Weeks now.
As for the cannabis, I am clearly noticing à différence when I smoke Indica/Sativas. I must be very cautious with the kind of terpenes, because yes, it happens, when i.e I smoke some heavy Indica Let's say 2 hours before bed, and the next day Will feel like an Hangover, and in the end feel more depressed that Day.
Right now, I got all the support I need, and Im really doing my homeworks when it comes to meds,Drugs, and interactions.
All I need is to start the wheel once and for all, and right now I am commited to it. Hope it answers some interrogations you guys had.
Have a great day guys, and thanks again for caring. This Community is really amazing. Peace!
PS. My next appointement with my psy is march 24, and Il definitly talk to him about psylocibin. The guy studied for 25 years and really know his stuffs about all Drugs.
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Snixx40]
#26512783 - 03/02/20 12:35 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think that it’s a great idea to talk to your therapist about using psychedelic mushrooms. If he is on board great, he will be able to help a lot. If he isn’t willing to explore the option with you, then, you can ask to see another therapist. And in either case, the awareness level of the doctors is raised about patients seeking psychedelic experiences to resolve trauma and work through faulty psychology.
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: feldman114]
#26512822 - 03/02/20 12:54 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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feldman114 said: The thing with mushrooms is...the more you try to be behind the wheel, the more likely you are to get lost. Get in the passenger seat, man. The mushies will get you where you NEED to go, not where you WANT to.
I love this. Completely true. You simply cannot control mushroom trips.
I once heard a saying that goes like this: "Acid is like driving drunk down the autobahn, Shrooms are like being strapped into the passenger seat, and DMT is like being chained up and thrown in the trunk"
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Korean Jesus]
#26513815 - 03/03/20 12:15 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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One recommendation that always fascinated me (yet i always forget to actually try it) is to use nitrous as a way to get away from unpleasant feelings during a trip. Guy called it his escape pods.
Would be sweet if it worked well because then you could get back on track without totally ending the trip like with a benzo. And its just a fun thing to do while tripping anyways
Anybody else know this to be effective??
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: footpath]
#26514504 - 03/03/20 12:05 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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footpath said: ....I should preface that with saying that I'm surprised that you had any effects with those medications - many will find they need to have them out of their system for months before noticing any effect.
I haven't read through the thread...
but to snixx40...if you want to get the full benefit & experience the full potential of what mushrooms (or other psychedelics) have to offer, get off some of those medications.
Serotonergic anti-depressants will dull down and block out a lot of the potential that mushrooms have to offer. Most people can't even experience psychedelics while on those types of medications/antidepressants.
Like footpath mentioned, I'm surprised you experienced anything at all considering all of the medications that you are on....regardless, they are likely blocking out a lot of the potential that mushrooms have.
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Psilosopherr]
#26514760 - 03/03/20 02:49 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Psilosopherr said: One recommendation that always fascinated me (yet i always forget to actually try it) is to use nitrous as a way to get away from unpleasant feelings during a trip. Guy called it his escape pods.
Would be sweet if it worked well because then you could get back on track without totally ending the trip like with a benzo. And its just a fun thing to do while tripping anyways
Anybody else know this to be effective??
sabnock was the person who coined the term "escape pods" I believe. I almost won't ever trip without nitrous available. I may take smallerish doses without it, like 2-3 grams, but on my 15 grams excursions I need to have them available if things turn sideways. I wish I had a tank :'(
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Psilosopherr
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: SizlChest]
#26515037 - 03/03/20 05:17 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks for corroborating
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Raccoon
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Psilosopherr]
#26519850 - 03/06/20 01:02 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Psilosopherr said: One recommendation that always fascinated me (yet i always forget to actually try it) is to use nitrous as a way to get away from unpleasant feelings during a trip. Guy called it his escape pods.
Would be sweet if it worked well because then you could get back on track without totally ending the trip like with a benzo. And its just a fun thing to do while tripping anyways
Anybody else know this to be effective??
I tried a whip-it just to try during an lsd trip, and jelly fish were all over the walls from the jelly fish tank video I was watching. It felt amazing, but I would say it increased the intensity of my trip, which is opposite of what I think an "escape pod" would be. I assume benzos decrease the intensity to bring you "back on track". It seems the mechanism to get back on track is different with nitrous? Even while seeing jelly fish everywhere vividly, I felt very lucid... Maybe it just forces you to let go, thus increasing the intensity, but it's easy because it just feels so good to surrender...
Thanks for mentioning this, I'll keep it in mind next time I try a whip-it.
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Raccoon]
#26533934 - 03/14/20 05:04 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I almost thought I was in the same boat as this guy, but I think I realize a big difference. I realize my depression is a natural consequence of being in a shit situation. The only real cure is to fix it. It may be a bad assumption, but he doesn't talk about the marriage in any real positive way. I'm guessing it is as bad as mine.
I'm a bit stymied right now. I know what I need to do to fix things, yet a can not muster enough will to act. I'm hoping a little of the magic offered here will reconnect me to who I used to be so that I can get off my ass and do what needs to be done. I don't think mushrooms will give me any sort of instant happiness. I think there is more of a chance that they do just the opposite.
Any thoughts on this? Am I barking up the wrong tree, or is this medicine going to do the trick?
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: TheFinNewGuy] 1
#26533949 - 03/14/20 05:35 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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It tends to evaporate any bullshit you may have constructed and bolted onto your thoughts in order to justify or place yourself in a ‘winning’ position, basically lie to yourself. So, in a way it’s a good method to shine a light on truth... now whether that truth is easy to swallow depends entirely on what you’ve been doing in your head. So, if you’re a fan of truth it can be a refresher. Sometimes the truth it shows you can be a hard pill to swallow and there’s a type of person out there that doesn’t handle that real well.
As far as eating mushrooms one night and waking up to the perfect life, that seems pretty far fetched but if you’re looking to get your bearings then it can be real useful. Like just about everything it’s all in what you do with it.
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