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40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. 1
#26508536 - 02/28/20 04:26 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hey guys,
this is my first post on this forum. I came here to tell you my story, in a short text.
So to be brief, Im a 40 years old dad, one son, still with the wife. I work in the healthcare domain. Ive Been diagnosed with major dépression and general anxiety 20 years ago.
Yes, Im on medication. Venlafaxine 150 mg daily, 300 mg of Bupropion daily, 150 mg of Seroquel 150 mg XRT daily. Nice mix.
So I started to Read about psylocibin like a month ago.Im an impulsive personnes, so on that month, I did some deep research. Read about the interactions , how they work on serotonin and other hormones. Let me Tell You that my serotonin is frigging low. Never happy, never having fun, always tired, etc.
So There I go. Last night, I took 1.5g of some 920 Room Golden teacher, very potent. Needless to Say, I started with 0.5mg to see how my body would react. Took one gram and hour later. Had à mellow feeling with a couple Smiles, high but I had all my normal senses. I had some vibrants colors, clearly because my pupils were fully dilated.
Smoked two bong hits from some OG Lindsay. Felt very comfortable for 2 hours. And then I thought about tomorrow.
I skipped my 150mg effexor and my 150 Seroquel XRT today. I plan to redo the trip tonight, starting with 2 grams. I sleep in a room in the basement because Im snoring like a bear.
Very dark, il light a candle. Got Spotify with some playlists, 4 bottles of Perrier, 2 mg of clonazepam, 50 mg of Seroquel in case I would lose control. But I dont think it Will happen, did a lot of introspections in the past years, I know my Fears and I can control them.
Sooo my question : Do you think 2 grams is too low if you check my pharmacology ? I didnt tappered anything yet, just skipped my effexor and Seroquel this morning.
Thanks for reading me!
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Snixx40] 1
#26508566 - 02/28/20 04:47 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ugh, I resent the American healthcare “industry” for putting people on so many medications.
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Snixx40]
#26508573 - 02/28/20 04:51 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Seeing as you got pretty normal effects from 1.5g, I'd imagine 2g would be adequate for a little more psychedelic effects - not too much more, but maybe some mild hallucinations like walls breathing, pronounced textures and shadows, and maybe trails of light or silhouettes. 2g almost certainly won't put you in a place where you feel out of control.
I should preface that with saying that I'm surprised that you had any effects with those medications - many will find they need to have them out of their system for months before noticing any effect. Also, many experience a tolerance buildup when taking similar strength doses consecutive days in a row. So, if you are looking to take them tonight, you may want to take more towards 3g.
What is it that you're looking for with taking them?
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Snixx40]
#26508577 - 02/28/20 04:53 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Snixx40]
#26508578 - 02/28/20 04:53 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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2g is okay. little increase is nessesary with such a short break between trips. good luck
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: footpath]
#26508583 - 02/28/20 04:59 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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footpath said: Seeing as you got pretty normal effects from 1.5g, I'd imagine 2g would be adequate for a little more psychedelic effects - not too much more, but maybe some mild hallucinations like walls breathing, pronounced textures and shadows, and maybe trails of light or silhouettes. 2g almost certainly won't put you in a place where you feel out of control.
I should preface that with saying that I'm surprised that you had any effects with those medications - many will find they need to have them out of their system for months before noticing any effect. Also, many experience a tolerance buildup when taking similar strength doses consecutive days in a row. So, if you are looking to take them tonight, you may want to take more towards 3g.
What is it that you're looking for with taking them?
Thanks for your response. What Im looking for, is a deep introspection, with maybe flashes of some memories, that would help me , in long term, to cure a part of my depression. Diminish my meds in a close future, and have good experiences that Will increase my mood for a couple Weeks.
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Snixx40]
#26508614 - 02/28/20 05:13 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I agree with the recommendation of using 3 grams instead of 2 with your previous dose 24 hours ago. That is a very good way to go into the mushrooms experience beforehand. Taking time to focus on what it is you want to improve on in life, and what you need to overcome mentally that is holding you back. As you get into a stronger, more conscious/aware head space remember your intent, if something unpleasant from the past comes up there is a reason; don't fight it but let yourself give in in order to overcome it.
Enjoy YOUR time, and happy to read you have chosen this route for self improvement!
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: O_Dweeds]
#26508745 - 02/28/20 06:55 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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O_Dweeds said: I agree with the recommendation of using 3 grams instead of 2 with your previous dose 24 hours ago. That is a very good way to go into the mushrooms experience beforehand. Taking time to focus on what it is you want to improve on in life, and what you need to overcome mentally that is holding you back. As you get into a stronger, more conscious/aware head space remember your intent, if something unpleasant from the past comes up there is a reason; don't fight it but let yourself give in in order to overcome it.
Enjoy YOUR time, and happy to read you have chosen this route for self improvement!
Thanks for your thoughts! Il go with 3g, and Im really looking forward to go with the flow! Going to ingest them at 10:30 pm , easthern Time. Il keep you guys updated .
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Snixx40]
#26508846 - 02/28/20 08:17 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I believe you will see after the trip how much more medically powerful shrooms are than any drug to make u 'feel better'.
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Cosmic Eye]
#26508870 - 02/28/20 08:41 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Typically want to wait 2 weeks between trips unless you microdose. Hope it goes well for you, it may be underwhelming with tolerance and meds.
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Cosmic Eye]
#26508874 - 02/28/20 08:45 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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As far as your original question about dosage, everyone else here handled it nicely. But as far as the process you have planned to cure your depression, I am hesitant. It seems as if you are placing too much importance on the drug (shrooms) itself rather than the process. Your talk about brain chemistry indicates to me that you want the drug to cure you. The drug, by itself, wont solve anything. But used in the right context, it can help you get a new perspective. I would recommend waiting at least a week or two and focus on the journey, rather than the drug.
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I agree with the recommendation of using 3 grams instead of 2 with your previous dose 24 hours ago. That is a very good way to go into the mushrooms experience beforehand. Taking time to focus on what it is you want to improve on in life, and what you need to overcome mentally that is holding you back. As you get into a stronger, more conscious/aware head space remember your intent, if something unpleasant from the past comes up there is a reason; don't fight it but let yourself give in in order to overcome it.
O_Dweeds touched on this, but this is really just the the start. Good luck. Do what you got to do, and it's totally fine if you trip tonight or tomorrow, but just keep this in mind.
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Raccoon]
#26508950 - 02/28/20 09:54 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Didn't check if your meds were SSRI's but be aware that i think its a bad idea to mix ssri's and psychedelics, can't remember why or if being off them for one day is enough but just pointing out you might want to double check. i could be wrong
I'd also vote for 3 grams instead of two. You sound confident in your ability to handle anything unpleasant if it arises, and especially since you have an emergency benzo, at least im assuming that drug you listed was a benzo. Taking more could be a tad overwhelming at first but once you get used to it the benefits will be more potent, in my opinion.
I'm sure you're well aware, thousands of people have cured their depression/anxiety/etc with psychedelics. I'm one of em and am very happy to hear you're taking the step and by the sound of it you did your homework well and should be in for some very pleasant times. A depth of happiness you might not have known was possible that'll bleed into the rest of your life.
And I suppose you could check out the 'how to trip' link in my sig. Some good tips and links to other guides in there
And I think i can kinda see what racoons saying. While it is entirely possible that you have some sort of anatomically disfunctional brain that causes your depression/fatigue, I think for most people diagnosed with depression that is just a narrative. I mean, do they ever measure your brains transmitters? Based on the process of my own diagnosis, you pretty much just tell them you're sad all the time so they just give you a prescription when really its just bad mental habits and an incorrect perspective that makes you sad. (im pretty sleep deprived, its possible im not making sense any more and am on a tangent)
TLDR: Its possible you could benefit from looking at it in a different way, trying to see that maybe your brain is not broken and needs pills or a chemical reset via shrooms to make it happy but rather needs a perspective shift. A perspective shift that mushrooms are very effective at giving you, of course.
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Psilosopherr] 1
#26509039 - 02/28/20 11:35 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Psilosopherr said: Didn't check if your meds were SSRI's but be aware that i think its a bad idea to mix ssri's and psychedelics, can't remember why or if being off them for one day is enough but just pointing out you might want to double check. i could be wrong
I'd also vote for 3 grams instead of two. You sound confident in your ability to handle anything unpleasant if it arises, and especially since you have an emergency benzo, at least im assuming that drug you listed was a benzo. Taking more could be a tad overwhelming at first but once you get used to it the benefits will be more potent, in my opinion.
I'm sure you're well aware, thousands of people have cured their depression/anxiety/etc with psychedelics. I'm one of em and am very happy to hear you're taking the step and by the sound of it you did your homework well and should be in for some very pleasant times. A depth of happiness you might not have known was possible that'll bleed into the rest of your life.
And I suppose you could check out the 'how to trip' link in my sig. Some good tips and links to other guides in there
And I think i can kinda see what racoons saying. While it is entirely possible that you have some sort of anatomically disfunctional brain that causes your depression/fatigue, I think for most people diagnosed with depression that is just a narrative. I mean, do they ever measure your brains transmitters? Based on the process of my own diagnosis, you pretty much just tell them you're sad all the time so they just give you a prescription when really its just bad mental habits and an incorrect perspective that makes you sad. (im pretty sleep deprived, its possible im not making sense any more and am on a tangent)
TLDR: Its possible you could benefit from looking at it in a different way, trying to see that maybe your brain is not broken and needs pills or a chemical reset via shrooms to make it happy but rather needs a perspective shift. A perspective shift that mushrooms are very effective at giving you, of course.
Hey phylo, wow thanks so much for caring.
Effexor is an snri, it could interfere, but in the medical pharma, 150 mg of Let's Say effexor, its nothing. So the risk is practically non exitant.
So hey about my trip took 3g at 22h15, 23h15 nothing. Took another gram, went outside, 2 bongs of Grandpa's breath ( OG Kush x Granddadyurple) Man lol Im really having trouble typing right now hahahahhha,
Anyway taking the pot fuclng did it. Man my pillow is a moving sea, Jimmy Hendrix is all around me,like a Hurricane.
But I want sooo Much more. So took 3 more g. My face is hurting, glued smile from ear to ear. Euphoria is almost overwhelming keep ya updated love yall hey also had to urinate look at myself in the Mirror I had the Feeling of seeing a complete stranger. Last time I felt so happy was when I was 16. Peace
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Snixx40]
#26509112 - 02/29/20 01:21 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Earth to Snizz40...
How's the view? 💜💜💜😊
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Snixx40]
#26509149 - 02/29/20 02:35 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Just to stop any potential worries, there is no interaction between SSRIs and psilocin. The SSRIs block the 5-HT2a receptors used by psilocin, so will diminish a trip, or stop the trip happening at all.
SNRIs are newer, so I can not confirm whether or not there are any interactions. A colleague of mine though took 5 dried grams of Golden teachers while also taking SNRIs, and had a great trip with no problems. I had done some research on his behalf, and nothing bad came back from Google.....
Regarding the comments that you should focus on the integration to cure depression, and not not the drug, I absolutely agree. HOWEVER, regardless, the drugs will make you feel better afterwards for a while, the so-called “after-glow”. I have been on a regimen of 3.8g dry B+ every two weeks. It got to the point where my depression is not at the forefront of my thoughts, and the after glow is lasting weeks. I’m now taking a few months off mushrooms to fully integrate the last few months’ worth of trips.
Good luck with your journey, DJ Ed
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: GreggTC]
#26509220 - 02/29/20 05:05 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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GreggTC said: Earth to Snizz40...
How's the view? 💜💜💜😊
Lol, hopefully he posts back.
These kind of threads make me nervous. Dude is a depressed walking pharmacy, then doubles his dose because he isn’t feeling enough. Then, if this post follows the normal course of things... we won’t ever get an update. I am forced to assume he is probably dead. 
Off topic but; Fuck Michael Pollan, hopefully op gets what he is after.
Snizz40! We demand a trip report!!!!!
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Shr00mEater]
#26509311 - 02/29/20 07:13 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hope all is well for you
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Enkidu]
#26509385 - 02/29/20 08:18 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: HamHead]
#26509424 - 02/29/20 08:53 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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He might be napping.
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Re: 40 years old dad, depressed for 20 years, going to trip for the first Time tonight. [Re: Shr00mEater]
#26509686 - 02/29/20 11:59 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Shr00mEater said: Off topic but; Fuck Michael Pollan
Why?
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