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OfflineEnteredYourMind
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Growing underneath a house that's busy, where the ground is made of dirt, and full of spiders.
    #26507737 - 02/28/20 07:40 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Title says it all.

I'm a new grower, just got my spore seringes from the mail this week, and am am looking foward to setting this up: PF Tek Guide

Thing is, we wanted to grow undearneath our house, which doubles down as our business, so it's always busy above, lots of walking around right on top of where the shrooms would be located.

Here are some pics of the place we're planing to grow in.

This is the ouside just for lore:



This is the little door open:


Going in:


Just inside, and turning to my right:

I am considering growing on the wall where the light is coming from

Another angle:


Thing is, as I said, we work right on top of this part of the house, and this place is full of spiders, and the ground is dirt. I know the shrooms need a very sterile enviorment, I haven't gotten into in-depth reading yet since we don't have anything aside from the seringes yet.

We don't mind giving this place a bit of an overhaul, and are willing to do anything that we have to, to make it hospitable for our mushrooms.

Is this idea viable, or should I look into growing someplace else?

Thank you in advance.


Edited by EnteredYourMind (02/28/20 07:46 AM)


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Re: Growing underneath a house that's busy, where the ground is made of dirt, and full of spiders. [Re: EnteredYourMind]
    #26507746 - 02/28/20 07:46 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Welcome!!:mushroom2::stoned:

Is there no room on your bedroom floor? Countertop? Closet?

No offense, but I don’t get why you WANT to grow in the most inconvenient place ever.


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Re: Growing underneath a house that's busy, where the ground is made of dirt, and full of spiders. [Re: EnteredYourMind]
    #26507753 - 02/28/20 07:50 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

You need vapor barrier on that dirt floor anyway, to repress moisture rising. Do that and I think it'll be fine. Doesn't look airtight, gets plenty of natural light. As long as the temps can be in a reasonable range, 60-75, it's fine.

But like Feldman said, unnecessarily inconvenient.


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Re: Growing underneath a house that's busy, where the ground is made of dirt, and full of spiders. [Re: EnteredYourMind]
    #26507756 - 02/28/20 07:52 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Grow anywhere else but there. Contaminations for days in there. It's not a big deal to do brf you could do 50 cakes in shoeboxes under your bed. Really a lot of places cakes are pretty small.


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Re: Growing underneath a house that's busy, where the ground is made of dirt, and full of spiders. [Re: Ovoidhunter]
    #26507804 - 02/28/20 08:36 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

The problem is, I want to do bulk, I want to grow at least 1kilo of mushrooms with the 4 spore seringes I got.

I don't want small yields, thing takes 2 months to grow, I can't wait that long for just a few grams.

Is there a better Tek out there? Where I can get a shit ton of shrooms, AND takes minimal space?


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Re: Growing underneath a house that's busy, where the ground is made of dirt, and full of spiders. [Re: EnteredYourMind]
    #26507816 - 02/28/20 08:48 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

If your aspirations of high yields and a quick turn around you will want to start with agar. You just joined the site and you are wanting to grow straight from spore syringes which have very low success rate. This forum has butt load of knowledge and if you do your due diligence you will find the answers you need.


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Re: Growing underneath a house that's busy, where the ground is made of dirt, and full of spiders. [Re: EnteredYourMind] * 1
    #26507822 - 02/28/20 08:59 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

EnteredYourMind said:
The problem is, I want to do bulk, I want to grow at least 1kilo of mushrooms with the 4 spore seringes I got.

I don't want small yields, thing takes 2 months to grow, I can't wait that long for just a few grams.

Is there a better Tek out there? Where I can get a shit ton of shrooms, AND takes minimal space?




1 kilo isn’t that mush honestly. A closet is more than enough space. That said, you won’t grow 2 lbs in 2 months by squirting spore syringes into jars. Learn agar, g2g, monotub/shoebox.

I’d focus on research if I was you. That’s where the real work is at. Don’t mean to be a dick here, but your poasts read like you haven’t seen a single tek yet...


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Re: Growing underneath a house that's busy, where the ground is made of dirt, and full of spiders. [Re: EnteredYourMind]
    #26507833 - 02/28/20 09:09 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

EnteredYourMind said:
The problem is, I want to do bulk, I want to grow at least 1kilo of mushrooms with the 4 spore seringes I got.

I don't want small yields, thing takes 2 months to grow, I can't wait that long for just a few grams.

Is there a better Tek out there? Where I can get a shit ton of shrooms, AND takes minimal space?




There us no such thing as fast & reliable bulk. If you want to reliably go bulk (with a small chance of it going wrong during the whole cycle)  must learn how to do agar (probably start with no-pours).

Everything you would ever need to know for successful bulk from zero-to-hero is in this thread (lots of links to other threads in one place) : https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24144021

You probably need to spend a few days reading before you do anything and to understand what are the best methods and what you can afford to invest & physically have the space to do.

You mentioned PF tek guide - well PF is not a good approach to go bulk (it is possible but very inefficient when compared to agar->grains->spawning to substrate in a box); it is only used if you don't have access to a pressure cooker.

Also PF teks take up a lot more space than the same amount of mono/shoebox TEKs to achieve the same final yield. Unless you are a PF wizard, they are very ineffective in comparison.


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Re: Growing underneath a house that's busy, where the ground is made of dirt, and full of spiders. [Re: MrBovineJoni]
    #26507885 - 02/28/20 09:51 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I also started with four syringes going straight to grain, it’s fine. I had 3/4 pound within two months after thinking I’d have maybe an ounce.

That space looks fine as long as the temp is good. I always say start with wbs quarts to coir shoeboxes. Low maintenance and high yield.


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Re: Growing underneath a house that's busy, where the ground is made of dirt, and full of spiders. [Re: A.k.a]
    #26508087 - 02/28/20 12:01 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

well if u want bulk pf tek aint the way to get there thats for god damn sure


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Re: Growing underneath a house that's busy, where the ground is made of dirt, and full of spiders. [Re: jcm4620]
    #26508090 - 02/28/20 12:04 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

jcm4620 said:
well if u want bulk pf tek aint the way to get there thats for god damn sure




I love a confident, authoritative statement. Cuts right through the bullshit.


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Re: Growing underneath a house that's busy, where the ground is made of dirt, and full of spiders. [Re: LadysKnight]
    #26508196 - 02/28/20 01:11 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

i hope you have some private areas and a closet in your house. This isn't impossible, but i sure wouldn't wanna be crawling on my belly under the house with tubs and spawn trying to grow stuff. You're really gonna need to put in some practice time to learn sterile technique in your home to pull pounds reliably with limited real estate.


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Re: Growing underneath a house that's busy, where the ground is made of dirt, and full of spiders. [Re: LtLurker]
    #26508569 - 02/28/20 04:49 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

If you can get the temps right and get some light on em and have clean spawn. Should work


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Re: Growing underneath a house that's busy, where the ground is made of dirt, and full of spiders. [Re: LtLurker]
    #26508570 - 02/28/20 04:50 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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i hope you have some private areas and a closet in your house. This isn't impossible, but i sure wouldn't wanna be crawling on my belly under the house with tubs and spawn trying to grow stuff. You're really gonna need to put in some practice time to learn sterile technique in your home to pull pounds reliably with limited real estate.





This too tho. You need to check em and that's no fun in the dirt.


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Re: Growing underneath a house that's busy, where the ground is made of dirt, and full of spiders. [Re: Bph]
    #26508624 - 02/28/20 05:20 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

What's your humidity like, where are you located?? (you can be general...don't need specifics)

It's possible you could just grow outdoor tubs or pots in that spot


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Re: Growing underneath a house that's busy, where the ground is made of dirt, and full of spiders. [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #26509312 - 02/29/20 07:14 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Uncle rico does outdoor monos all the time no problem.


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Re: Growing underneath a house that's busy, where the ground is made of dirt, and full of spiders. [Re: filthyknees]
    #26509435 - 02/29/20 09:01 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Not too familiar with PF tek, but if you have a business with people around during the day you don't want to be shuttling in and out of the hobbit hole to get under the place to check on things.

Don't know what your business is, but if kids are ever around- they're likely to stumble into your grow just doing kid stuff outside. Peeking under the house or messing with the little door.

Do you have neighbors within eyeshot? They'll be curious why you're in and out of your crawl space after awhile.

Will also become a real headache to operate in such a small space after a few weeks. When I'm at home, I am in and out of my grow space constantly as I'm guessing a lot of newer shroom growers are because you don't know what to expect yet. If it were difficult to access my grow, I'd be less inclined to keep a close eye on it and it would likely suffer in quality as a result.

Will be even more shuttling in and out of there if you're trying to grow a bunch.

How would you check on things during business hours without raising an eyebrow?

Would anyone notice you down there with a flashlight at night with light escaping those holes in the wall?

Not only to keep things clean, but for security- inside the house is your best bet. Any way to make room for the grow in the house by storing some things from the house in the crawl space? (If the house is lacking in grow space)

If you're handy with the tools and own the place, you could install an access door so the crawlspace could be entered from inside the house, then build out a nice mini room and partition it off from the rest of the crawl space.

That is a considerable amount of trouble though.

Lastly, some of the materials you'll use in this hobby are attractive to creatures like mice or squirrels as a food source. The grains mainly. Consider that when planning your setup.

Agar agar agar agar agar.


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