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Offlinefeldman114
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Putin Says He Never Used Doubles...or a phone
    #26506124 - 02/27/20 08:50 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

https://apple.news/Az0Dv3jsdT4yxGtAViIUTOw

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“I refused to have doubles,” Putin said in an interview with the official Tass news agency released Thursday.

He said the idea came up in the early years of his presidency, when he led a bitter war against Islamist separatists in the North Caucasus region of Chechnya that took thousands of lives and triggered a wave of terrorist attacks across Russia. Putin visited the troops there several times at the height of the fighting, at one point flying in a fighter jet.
Putin lifted the veil of secrecy around his security in an interview that also confirmed he doesn’t use a mobile phone, except sometimes when aides offer him theirs.
“It’s easier for me to pick the special-communications phone and they can reach anyone,” he said, referring to the Kremlin’s own network.






What do you guys think? Is it true he doesn’t use a phone? Like wtf?

Anyone here onboard the Putin-clone train? I think it’s rubbish, but there are a few pics/videos where his face does look suspiciously different. Imo he just had a bunch of cosmetic surgeries done so people forget he’s old AF.


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Re: Putin Says He Never Used Doubles...or a phone [Re: feldman114] * 3
    #26506194 - 02/27/20 09:33 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I'm not arguing he's a gangster here. I've done that before.

But just as an example of following intelligent precautions, Gambino and Accardo never touched a phone. And they never got touched.


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Re: Putin Says He Never Used Doubles...or a phone [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26506232 - 02/27/20 09:58 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Heh, that’s true. It’s not like he’s ever alone - prolly snaps his fingers and a dozen people come running. Still, that’s a hell of a paranoid lifestyle.

Do you think it’s possible the original is dead or that he uses a double?

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Freelance journalist Jim Stone claims pictures before and after Putin’s disappearance show it is a different man leading Russia.

He said the new Putin has a his “header rounder, nose fatter and shorter, dimple missing, lips thicker, mouth larger and a serious double chin”.

Pictures of Putin in his youth do show a dramatic shift in his appearance.




I can’t find the really good ones now, but some of the comparison photos are striking.


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Re: Putin Says He Never Used Doubles...or a phone [Re: feldman114] * 2
    #26506288 - 02/27/20 10:33 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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feldman114 said:
Still, that’s a hell of a paranoid lifestyle.



He has good reason to be paranoid.  It was just revealed that a leading encryption company in Switzerland is owned by the CIA, and a great many countries' communications were readable by US spies:

‘The intelligence coup of the century’
For decades, the CIA read the encrypted communications of allies and adversaries.
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For more than half a century, governments all over the world trusted a single company to keep the communications of their spies, soldiers and diplomats secret.

The Swiss firm made millions of dollars selling equipment to more than 120 countries well into the 21st century. Its clients included Iran, military juntas in Latin America, nuclear rivals India and Pakistan, and even the Vatican.

But what none of its customers ever knew was that Crypto AG was secretly owned by the CIA in a highly classified partnership with West German intelligence. These spy agencies rigged the company’s devices so they could easily break the codes that countries used to send encrypted messages.

The program had limits. America’s main adversaries, including the Soviet Union and China, were never Crypto customers. Their well-founded suspicions of the company’s ties to the West shielded them from exposure...




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Re: Putin Says He Never Used Doubles...or a phone [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26506294 - 02/27/20 10:39 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

That was a good read.
But, I mean, every leader has reasons to worry about spying, but I doubt any of them live in 2020 without a phone. Plus, Russia wasn’t a target of that CIA op:
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The program had limits. America’s main adversaries, including the Soviet Union and China, were never Crypto customers.




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Re: Putin Says He Never Used Doubles...or a phone [Re: feldman114] * 2
    #26506330 - 02/27/20 11:10 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Football coaches frequently don't even say anything important on the field without  holding their clipboard in front of their face. They're afraid of lipreaders. If the stakes are important, then precautions make sense.


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Re: Putin Says He Never Used Doubles...or a phone [Re: Brian Jones] * 1
    #26506417 - 02/27/20 12:26 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Definitely dont believe in any putin clone junk nor that the current putin is any different than the previous putin besides being older.

Seems likely he doesnt bother with a cell phone, though.


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Re: Putin Says He Never Used Doubles...or a phone [Re: relic] * 1
    #26518620 - 03/05/20 12:55 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

That reminded me of Yassar Arafat's story of never sleeping in the same bed two nights in a row... he was pretty good at spin though, and using the press.


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