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Where to get moai in UK and advice
    #26505781 - 02/27/20 01:32 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Sup shroomites.
I have dmt but smoking it is just so intense... I'm not always in the mood to die instantly.

Id therefore like to make the dmt a bit more calm, slower and more like a very heavy shroom trip or aya trip (never done aya)

1. Where is safe to buy a maoi in UK?
2. How much can I dose as a threshold? I want to try the maoi on its own at first just I case.
3.how safe is taking a maoi like syrian rue seeds?
4.any other advice about orally taking dmt with a maoi?

Thanks.


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Re: Where to get moai in UK and advice [Re: shroomhead101] * 1
    #26506274 - 02/27/20 10:26 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Hi there.

A couple of thoughts:

1) Plant sourced maois are legal to buy. Just buy syrian rue seeds from plant shops, or internet. Source discussion is not allowed here, so noone will post you a link to a certain website. Just google.
Syrian rue is very cheap, like 10 bucks for 100g, or ~50 bucks per kilo.
Some shops also sell the pure maoi alkaloids as HCl salt. "Isolated harmala alkaloids" they are called.
Harmine or harmalin is what you want. With the pure stuff it's easy to dose, and almost nausea free. Raw seeds are hard to digest and might be nauseating in higher does.

2) Threshold would be ~1g of ground up seeds. 2-4 grams is a medium dose, 5 grams is high.

3) Syrian rue is a RIMA, a short-acting "reversible inhibitor of mao-a". Rimas are safe to ingest. You don't have to follow any diet, there are no bad food interactions with syrian rue. :thumbup:
Don't do other drungs, though. No speed, no mdma, no other stimulants, opiates or benzos. This is very dangerous.
Most psychedelics are safe to ingest in combination with syrian rue. Lsd, mushrooms, dmt (obviously), mescaline. Weed, alcohol, caffeine. But those might get potentiated a lot.
Mushrooms get almost twice as strong and last up to 10 hours, just by adding 3g of rue. :smile:

4) Take the maoi first. Wait 30min, then dose the dmt.
I swallow self extracted harmalas (TEK see the link in my signature) in a capsule (like 150 to 200mg of the pure stuff, that's like 4g of plain seeds) in a capsule.
Then I dissolve my dmt in a shotglass with lukewarm water and a splash of white vinegar. The vinegar turns the freebase dmt into the acetate-salt, which is easier to digest by our stomache.
30min after taking the harmalas I drink the dmt shot.

Everybody reacts differently to oral dmt. It's important to find the perfect dose-ratio for yourself. The maoi-dose stays always the same because you want mao to be fully inhibited. For most people that's done with 4g f rue.
The dmt dose is the tricky part. Some people don't feel anything from 100mg of dmt, others (like me) get completely blasted from as little as 30mg.
Start low like 30mg, and work your way up. Oral dmt does not build up a tolerance, so you can trip multiple days in a row without having to increase the dose.

Have fun!

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Edited by Pandemoon (02/27/20 10:38 AM)


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