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Re: When to harvest? [Re: schmutzen]
#27367622 - 06/29/21 12:59 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Probably just use them to re-seed next year.
I was planning on trying to separate the goodies from tea...dropping out of solution with ph. But I'm kinda second guessing that...don't know if I will have enough to mess with it or if I even want some crude morphine around right now.
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Re: When to harvest? [Re: redeyesmj]
#27367702 - 06/29/21 01:50 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Probably a good idea.
You can still make a tea from the dried pods.
I was thinking about collecting non-caramelized latex and stuffing into gel-caps.
Wash it down with white grapefruit juice.
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Re: When to harvest? [Re: schmutzen]
#27367851 - 06/29/21 03:41 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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What you mean non-carmalized?? Like collect in caps as it's bleeding right after you cut it?
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Re: When to harvest? [Re: redeyesmj]
#27368289 - 06/29/21 09:27 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Cut, squeeze and dry on pyrex plate, then scrape.
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Have a few that are about 5-6 days after petal drop and many more that are either flowering or just dropping their petals. Debating on harvesting when the pods are plump and leaving some behind for seeds, or, leaving everything to dry and then picking closer to the fall. Opinions? No lancing for me btw, I stick to my tea.
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Re: When to harvest? [Re: schmutzen]
#27368795 - 06/30/21 11:13 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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namaste said: Probably a good idea.
You can still make a tea from the dried pods.
I was thinking about collecting non-caramelized latex and stuffing into gel-caps.
Wash it down with white grapefruit juice.

Based on my knowledge of chemistry, your tea needs to be acidic for maximum effect. Essentially a lemon tek.
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Re: When to harvest? [Re: koods]
#27371349 - 07/02/21 07:49 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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I planted a wide variety this year and ended up with some real beauts. Will post pics when my wife gets back with them.
Question is: I have a couple dozen nice ones that aren't quite mature yet (little crown things not facing upward yet, still pale) - but it's raining here and will be for several days. In the past this has caused them to just rot.
Is it possible to harvest too early? I'm good on seed but I don't want to ruin the pods' quality.
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You have to wait until the crown points upwards and there has been no rain for at least 3 days. Harvesting early will yield you a little bit of low quality candy. If you can, irrigate your beds so the water runs off and away from the plants. Use a spade and dig a ditch essentially.. if you can.
I had similar happen to me due to poor choice of garden area. Wound up with some floppy yet big poppies still even though I lost several to ground rot during a random week of rain. I feel your pain but you have already waited several months for your plants, don't be impatient now.
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IgnorantOne said: You have to wait until the crown points upwards and there has been no rain for at least 3 days. Harvesting early will yield you a little bit of low quality candy. If you can, irrigate your beds so the water runs off and away from the plants. Use a spade and dig a ditch essentially.. if you can.
I had similar happen to me due to poor choice of garden area. Wound up with some floppy yet big poppies still even though I lost several to ground rot during a random week of rain. I feel your pain but you have already waited several months for your plants, don't be impatient now.
Ground rot? It's well irrigated on a down-sloping hill. I just dont want the actual pods to get moldy. Might be missing something here.
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Like they were laying on the wet ground for several days in the rain and started to wilt/rot. Your pods will be fine in the rain ime. Sounds like you have the water issue handled. I wish I had been smart enough to do my garden on a hill this year.
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I live/grow in a pretty warm & dry climate, humidity down around 10% to 25% through most of summer and never a single drop of rain....
...and when I split pods open to collect their seeds I still see some pods that are filled with rot/mold.
Seems like a handful of my pods every year start to rot even before the seed is ripe .
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Re: When to harvest? [Re: openmind]
#27371658 - 07/02/21 12:39 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Interesting. I have not had that happen to pods but I have had several flowers not open and rot. Humidity here is 60% or higher most days of the summer and we are either in a drought or a week of rain. Floppy poppies don't do well during those rains.
Shit happens I guess.
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I've never done poppy tea or even opioids for that matter except once when I broke my arm .
What is the poppy tea experience like?
Isn't it highly illegal?
seems too sketchy to be worth it.
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Re: When to harvest? [Re: Fiery] 1
#27371764 - 07/02/21 02:09 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Fiery said: I've never done poppy tea or even opioids for that matter except once when I broke my arm .
What is the poppy tea experience like?
Isn't it highly illegal?
seems too sketchy to be worth it.
Do you recall what particular opiate or opioid they gave you when you broke your arm? Just curious...And do you recall feeling anything from it?
What seems "sketchy" about it though?
It is not illegal to grow the plant, I got my poppy seeds from a seed-rack at my local grocery store that has a bunch of different veggie & flower seeds for gardening lol. It is "technically" illegal to consume the plant or to process it into any sort of extract/isolate, even making a cup of tea, but I feel that no man or "agency" should be allowed to tell another human what they are allowed to put into their body. I don't let "the law" prevent me from consuming the plants that I want to consume and I don't let the law prevent me from altering my consciousness.
Poppy tea is a classic "opiate" buzz. Pretty much all opiates and opioids have the same general feel to them with variations in overall potency, duration, euphoria, some are slightly more uplifting/energetic while others can be a bit more sedating. But take a large enough dose of any opiate/opioid and one is going to be very sedated.
I would describe the feeling of pod tea/opiates as....Like grandma wrapping me up in a warm blanket out of the dryer and telling me that everything is going to be OK. Very relaxing and at ease. There is a distinct feeling of warmth/euphoria wrapped around my body, very warm & good feels. Feeling at ease and comfortable, feeling more care-free than usual. Anxiety is dulled down to basically non-existent. There is a distinct uplifted mood, happy, outgoing, motivated. Feeling like "everything is OK" (there's a reason so many folks with emotional trauma/pain get addicted & hooked on opiates, opiates can be very comforting & soothing to both physical and emotional pain/trauma)...Low to moderate doses I find to have an energetic and somewhat stimulating aspect while simultaneously feeling mellow & relaxed (not stimulating in the classic sense like amps or coca, just an underlying energy/motivation to do things). Beyond moderate dosage the effects turn a bit more heavy/sedating and can totally lay one down and have them start "nodding out" into a sleep/trance of sorts. When that happens one can slip into a super euphoric and very deep relaxation where they aren't quite asleep but not quite awake, and sometimes some very bizarre dreams can occur.
That's how it is for me...but quite a portion of the population seem to experience dysphoric & unpleasant effects from opiates/opioids, some folks really do not enjoy them and/or only get dysphoric effects and/or puke a bunch. (or what happens sometimes with some people....the first time or the first few times they take an opiate/opioid it is unpleasant, then the effects become more pleasant/euphoric over time).
For myself...I found them to be lovely and euphoric the very first time I ever took em' lol.
One definitely shouldn't dabble with these sorts of things unless they really know what they are working with and have control over their appetite/cravings/impulses. I find it to be pretty mild & benign in the way I work with this plant but a lot of people dig themselves into a deep hole of addiction (or death from overdosing)....otherwise though, some poppy is a nice treat to have during the spring & summer. And if shit ever "hits the fan" in the world, I feel that having poppies on hand will be like gold. I feel they are very valuable and everyone should have some viable poppy seeds on hand to grow their own pain killer if ever needed.
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Re: When to harvest? [Re: Fiery] 1
#27372011 - 07/02/21 05:35 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Fiery said: I've never done poppy tea or even opioids for that matter except once when I broke my arm .
What is the poppy tea experience like?
Isn't it highly illegal?
seems too sketchy to be worth it.
The tea takes a few hours till you start to feel floaty and like you are wrapped in a warm blanket. IME I get close to a day of high off of the tea but the ass quarter of it is more an after glow than "high". Going to bed is euphoric too, you are stuck between this awake and deep relaxation point. YMMV though.
That is until you drink too much and puke your guts out at midnight. That is no fun.
As to legality, it is a gray area. From what I have read the flowers are illegal but most oinkers don't know what they look like. As long as you are not lancing them you have plausible deniability.
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Re: When to harvest? [Re: openmind]
#27372160 - 07/02/21 07:56 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Fiery said: I've never done poppy tea or even opioids for that matter except once when I broke my arm .
What is the poppy tea experience like?
Isn't it highly illegal?
seems too sketchy to be worth it.
Do you recall what particular opiate or opioid they gave you when you broke your arm? Just curious...And do you recall feeling anything from it?
What seems "sketchy" about it though?
It is not illegal to grow the plant, I got my poppy seeds from a seed-rack at my local grocery store that has a bunch of different veggie & flower seeds for gardening lol. It is "technically" illegal to consume the plant or to process it into any sort of extract/isolate, even making a cup of tea, but I feel that no man or "agency" should be allowed to tell another human what they are allowed to put into their body. I don't let "the law" prevent me from consuming the plants that I want to consume and I don't let the law prevent me from altering my consciousness.
Poppy tea is a classic "opiate" buzz. Pretty much all opiates and opioids have the same general feel to them with variations in overall potency, duration, euphoria, some are slightly more uplifting/energetic while others can be a bit more sedating. But take a large enough dose of any opiate/opioid and one is going to be very sedated.
I would describe the feeling of pod tea/opiates as....Like grandma wrapping me up in a warm blanket out of the dryer and telling me that everything is going to be OK. Very relaxing and at ease. There is a distinct feeling of warmth/euphoria wrapped around my body, very warm & good feels. Feeling at ease and comfortable, feeling more care-free than usual. Anxiety is dulled down to basically non-existent. There is a distinct uplifted mood, happy, outgoing, motivated. Feeling like "everything is OK" (there's a reason so many folks with emotional trauma/pain get addicted & hooked on opiates, opiates can be very comforting & soothing to both physical and emotional pain/trauma)...Low to moderate doses I find to have an energetic and somewhat stimulating aspect while simultaneously feeling mellow & relaxed (not stimulating in the classic sense like amps or coca, just an underlying energy/motivation to do things). Beyond moderate dosage the effects turn a bit more heavy/sedating and can totally lay one down and have them start "nodding out" into a sleep/trance of sorts. When that happens one can slip into a super euphoric and very deep relaxation where they aren't quite asleep but not quite awake, and sometimes some very bizarre dreams can occur.
That's how it is for me...but quite a portion of the population seem to experience dysphoric & unpleasant effects from opiates/opioids, some folks really do not enjoy them and/or only get dysphoric effects and/or puke a bunch. (or what happens sometimes with some people....the first time or the first few times they take an opiate/opioid it is unpleasant, then the effects become more pleasant/euphoric over time).
For myself...I found them to be lovely and euphoric the very first time I ever took em' lol.
One definitely shouldn't dabble with these sorts of things unless they really know what they are working with and have control over their appetite/cravings/impulses. I find it to be pretty mild & benign in the way I work with this plant but a lot of people dig themselves into a deep hole of addiction (or death from overdosing)....otherwise though, some poppy is a nice treat to have during the spring & summer. And if shit ever "hits the fan" in the world, I feel that having poppies on hand will be like gold. I feel they are very valuable and everyone should have some viable poppy seeds on hand to grow their own pain killer if ever needed.
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#27372353 - 07/03/21 12:06 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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I haven't made tea for myself, and I forget about it being available. Very end o world supply kind of value. The seeds are super valuable in the kitchen, hence my 2 gallon supply. Poppy Pound Cake is fucking heavenly.
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Re: When to harvest? [Re: Failboat]
#27372546 - 07/03/21 07:49 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Poppy pound cake sounds sooo good rn. Or even some poppy muffins.
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Hey do you guys know if I can make tea with 3yr old dry pods? I have a small bundle of old dry stalks and pods. Like a flower bouquet.
Was thinking of making tea and didnt know if the alkaloids are viable.
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I made some tea with some similar aged pods the other night when my shoulder was giving me grief. It wasn't very strong, but it kinda did the job.
YMMV.
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