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Re: the poppy thread [Re: Fiery]
    #27340229 - 06/08/21 12:52 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

I don’t know what strain. My friend found huge pods in the landscaping at his work (federal government facility) and these are the seeds from those pods. Poppies are a strange choice for gardens. The flowers only last for a few days.


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Re: the poppy thread [Re: koods]
    #27340235 - 06/08/21 12:55 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Not if you consider them as used for the seed crop. Poppy seeds are a valuable crop and chef favorite. I guess some people think they are bad because they have drugs in them right?


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Re: the poppy thread [Re: koods]
    #27340242 - 06/08/21 12:59 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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Small pods but look
Like they have lots of latex. When should I harvest? Should I cut slits first?



I saw a stink bug on them earlier probably what’s poking holes in the pods





Some of my pods have little bits & specs of latex seeping out onto the surface like that, one variety I grew does this a lot more than the other. I've always wondered if this is caused by insects piercing the skin of the pod, or if some plants/pods just naturally seep out bits of latex. I think it just naturally happens, something the plant does on its own. Could be caused little bugs too though :shrug: .

I wouldn't bother with slitting/cutting the pods for their latex, if you want to enjoy what the plant has to offer I would suggest making tea with the pods once they swell up & ripen up more (about 4 to 8 days after petals drop, they'll swell up in size a lot, once my pods have swollen up and have a grey/blue glaucaus coating on them I feel they're ready enough...they do the trick for me at that point, not sure when the most ideal time for harvest is tho, I'd expect it would be sometime before the seeds are close to being ripe). From what I've seen, it seems like it'd take a lot of pods to collect just a tiny bit of latex so I've never bothered with it. Tea is just all around a much more effective & efficient use of what the plant has to offer IMO.




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Re: the poppy thread [Re: openmind]
    #27340273 - 06/08/21 01:22 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Cicadas have pokey legs probably from them landing and crawling around. The garden got very aerated this year



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Re: the poppy thread [Re: koods] * 1
    #27340277 - 06/08/21 01:28 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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Cicadas have pokey legs probably from them landing and crawling around. The garden got very aerated this year







Damn, that's wild!

Really interesting "role" and influence that the cicadas have on the eco-systems where they reside.

In the grand scheme of things/on the large scale, I can imagine the surface of the earth being "aerated" like that across large swaths of land is a big deal and has all sorts of other "trickle down" effects that radiate through the biome/eco-system.




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Re: the poppy thread [Re: koods]
    #27340280 - 06/08/21 01:29 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

All these poppies grew totally different sizes but they’re all flowering at the same time.


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Re: the poppy thread [Re: openmind]
    #27340289 - 06/08/21 01:38 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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Cicadas have pokey legs probably from them landing and crawling around. The garden got very aerated this year







Damn, that's wild!

Really interesting "role" and influence that the cicadas have on the eco-systems where they reside.

In the grand scheme of things/on the large scale, I can imagine the surface of the earth being "aerated" like that across large swaths of land is a big deal and has all sorts of other "trickle down" effects that radiate through the biome/eco-system.




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The natural cicada exoskeleton mulch around the base of trees must be a great fertilizer. Along with the dead ones falling out of the trees



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Re: the poppy thread [Re: koods]
    #27340924 - 06/08/21 11:26 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

far too soon to harvest.  Allow the pods to mature some more.


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Re: the poppy thread [Re: Mr Piggy] * 1
    #27341162 - 06/09/21 06:29 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Man, I grew tons of poppies this season from a seed mix my buddy sent me! I know most of these aren't somniferum, but hey, a poppy is a poppy :smirk: These are old pics form a couple weeks back, but I'm still getting tons of new blooms everyday, even in this heat and humidity!





















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Re: the poppy thread [Re: beadle]
    #27341178 - 06/09/21 06:43 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Poppy tee makes you itch,  I always milked my Persian whites and cleaned them with water by boiling the latex with water and removing the floating dirt, boil off the water and you're left with a nice clean smoke able powder.


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Re: the poppy thread [Re: beadle]
    #27341565 - 06/09/21 12:03 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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The natural cicada exoskeleton mulch around the base of trees must be a great fertilizer. Along with the dead ones falling out of the trees







Totally!...I like to imagine/visualize all that nutrition & energy being cycled back into the biome/eco system.

Not only all the nutrition from the "bug juices" that rot/decompose from the dead ones, but exoskeletons too are fantastic for a lot of plants.

The chitin that makes up the exoskeleton I believe does a lot for some plants, such as cannabis...IIRC, I think the chitin triggers some sort of response within the plant that is beneficial. I imagine they offer lots of calcium too.

That's crazy to see their exoskeletons/carcasses actually piling up under the trees lol, damn. I knew there are crazy amounts of them but that's even more than I expected, enough to create a thick layer like that!

If I was around there I'd collect some to top dress around the soil of my cannabis plants lol....I imagine the stuff makes excellent fertilizer .





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Man, I grew tons of poppies this season from a seed mix my buddy sent me! I know most of these aren't somniferum, but hey, a poppy is a poppy :smirk: These are old pics form a couple weeks back, but I'm still getting tons of new blooms everyday, even in this heat and humidity!













Nice!

I grew some of those "other" poppies this year too.

I find them to be prettier than somniferums lol, I really like the way the flowers look and they tend to put out a lot of blooms over a long stretch of time. I got a lot of seed from them this year already, next time around I'm going have a lot of those types of poppies planted.


Does anyone know if the pollen from Papaver orientale (pretty sure that's what those "other" poppies are) can pollinate papaver somniferum? And visa/versa? Just wondering if some of the somniferums I grew this year have potentially been pollinated/crossed with pollen from the oriental poppies, and visa-versa.





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Re: the poppy thread [Re: openmind] * 1
    #27341585 - 06/09/21 12:22 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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The natural cicada exoskeleton mulch around the base of trees must be a great fertilizer. Along with the dead ones falling out of the trees







Totally!...I like to imagine/visualize all that nutrition & energy being cycled back into the biome/eco system.

Not only all the nutrition from the "bug juices" that rot/decompose from the dead ones, but exoskeletons too are fantastic for a lot of plants.

The chitin that makes up the exoskeleton I believe does a lot for some plants, such as cannabis...IIRC, I think the chitin triggers some sort of response within the plant that is beneficial. I imagine they offer lots of calcium too.

That's crazy to see their exoskeletons/carcasses actually piling up under the trees lol, damn. I knew there are crazy amounts of them but that's even more than I expected, enough to create a thick layer like that!

If I was around there I'd collect some to top dress around the soil of my cannabis plants lol....I imagine the stuff makes excellent fertilizer




That’s not even half of them. Most of the exoskeletons are still stuck to the trees.

These things were crawling up the trees like this for ten days. Constant steam every night literally fighting for space on the leaves.



If you stood still in the yard for 20 minutes you’d be covered in them crawling up your body.

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Re: the poppy thread [Re: openmind]
    #27341587 - 06/09/21 12:23 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Trees in the area that experience brood X have significantly larger growth rings the year following.  The natural fertilizer provided, along with the feed for animals makes brood X a very important year for the natural world.  I would definitely be using cicada in my Potting soil mix if I lived in the area still.


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Re: the poppy thread [Re: Mr Piggy]
    #27341593 - 06/09/21 12:29 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Also the year when they emerge is the only year when the trees don’t have tens of thousands of nymphs parasitizing their roots


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Re: the poppy thread [Re: koods]
    #27341626 - 06/09/21 12:57 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

As a forester I can guarantee it's the fertilizer load.


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Re: the poppy thread [Re: koods]
    #27341673 - 06/09/21 01:32 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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That’s not even half of them. Most of the exoskeletons are still stuck to the trees.

These things were crawling up the trees like this for ten days. Constant steam every night literally fighting for space on the leaves.



If you stood still in the yard for 20 minutes you’d be covered in them crawling up your body.

Rice crispies in milk
https://twitter.com/realpotatus/status/1395924724186759176?s=21






Fucking wow! :lol:

That is so gnarly!

Sooo many of em'! lol





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Re: the poppy thread [Re: openmind] * 2
    #27341761 - 06/09/21 02:39 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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The natural cicada exoskeleton mulch around the base of trees must be a great fertilizer. Along with the dead ones falling out of the trees







Totally!...I like to imagine/visualize all that nutrition & energy being cycled back into the biome/eco system.

Not only all the nutrition from the "bug juices" that rot/decompose from the dead ones, but exoskeletons too are fantastic for a lot of plants.

The chitin that makes up the exoskeleton I believe does a lot for some plants, such as cannabis...IIRC, I think the chitin triggers some sort of response within the plant that is beneficial. I imagine they offer lots of calcium too.

That's crazy to see their exoskeletons/carcasses actually piling up under the trees lol, damn. I knew there are crazy amounts of them but that's even more than I expected, enough to create a thick layer like that!

If I was around there I'd collect some to top dress around the soil of my cannabis plants lol....I imagine the stuff makes excellent fertilizer .





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Man, I grew tons of poppies this season from a seed mix my buddy sent me! I know most of these aren't somniferum, but hey, a poppy is a poppy :smirk: These are old pics form a couple weeks back, but I'm still getting tons of new blooms everyday, even in this heat and humidity!













Nice!

I grew some of those "other" poppies this year too.

I find them to be prettier than somniferums lol, I really like the way the flowers look and they tend to put out a lot of blooms over a long stretch of time. I got a lot of seed from them this year already, next time around I'm going have a lot of those types of poppies planted.


Does anyone know if the pollen from Papaver orientale (pretty sure that's what those "other" poppies are) can pollinate papaver somniferum? And visa/versa? Just wondering if some of the somniferums I grew this year have potentially been pollinated/crossed with pollen from the oriental poppies, and visa-versa.





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Thanks! I agree, some of my blooms rival any Somniferums that I've ever laid eyes on!

Although Orientale and Somniferum are in the same family, they are a different genus from each other, thus cannot cross pollinate as far I know. It would be cool to have  multi podded perennial Somniferums that bloomed late into the summer like all the other types of poppies though.


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    #27345525 - 06/12/21 12:31 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

I got aphids and also some weird orange worms. I’m not sure I mind.



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Re: the poppy thread [Re: koods]
    #27345840 - 06/12/21 05:34 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)


1st flower


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