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h & c.....or at least what they were labled....first time growing
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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: stagger]
#26818155 - 07/11/20 07:54 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's how 2 of my varieties looked
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~600g fully dried pods. Excited what to do with them!!! probably make opium with bubble bags, then laudunum as well!
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Re: 2020 papavar sp. id request [Re: MadMuncher]
#26822073 - 07/13/20 10:45 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Say, is it better to just cut off the poppies? Or to make a slice in them and scrape them? Does one give more or stronger resin?
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Re: 2020 papavar sp. id request [Re: Totodile386]
#26822221 - 07/14/20 12:45 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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holy fuck. we need to start a datura thread. nobody ever wants to go play in the desert with me.
Idk about scraping it doesnt really produce a ton in my experience except certain varieties and it is incriminating
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Re: 2020 papavar sp. id request [Re: MadMuncher]
#26824525 - 07/15/20 07:22 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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MadMuncher said: holy fuck. we need to start a datura thread. nobody ever wants to go play in the desert with me.
Idk about scraping it doesnt really produce a ton in my experience except certain varieties and it is incriminating
So do you think making an incision and scraping the resin is pointless? You don't think making an incision will cause the poppy to "produce" more resin? Or are you just guessing?
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Re: 2020 papavar sp. id request [Re: Totodile386] 1
#26825088 - 07/15/20 12:17 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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its incriminating as fuck is all i know. its impossible to say you are growing opium poppies for ornamentals if they are all lanced and scraped it doesn't really seem to be worth it to me unless you have a field of them. the production doesn't seem to increase very much and you have to keep scraping them every day or the pods heal over anyway. i tried it a few years ago and imo it wasn't really worth it except on a few unknown cultivars that bled like no other but it varied a lot from plant to plant and between varieties
i saw a patch in a clear-cut the other day i'm gonna go see if theyre ripe in a bit
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Re: 2020 papavar sp. id request [Re: MadMuncher]
#26825150 - 07/15/20 12:41 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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..finally got something to contribute
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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: redeyesmj]
#26825187 - 07/15/20 12:54 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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redeyesmj said:

Is this the start of multiple pods?? The only time I have had success they where really small and only made one small pod.
looks like something part of the crusiferacea (sp ) family not canola. but imagine will have "cross like" yellow flowers large varied group from canola to cabbage broc bok and beyond.
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Re: 2020 papavar sp. id request [Re: Zifozonke]
#26825320 - 07/15/20 01:59 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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MadMuncher said: its incriminating as fuck is all i know. its impossible to say you are growing opium poppies for ornamentals if they are all lanced and scraped it doesn't really seem to be worth it to me unless you have a field of them. the production doesn't seem to increase very much and you have to keep scraping them every day or the pods heal over anyway. i tried it a few years ago and imo it wasn't really worth it except on a few unknown cultivars that bled like no other but it varied a lot from plant to plant and between varieties.
Pretty much exactly this^
It's incriminating. Having a bunch of pods leaking latex/opium with cut marks all over them, it's very obvious what one is doing.
And unless you have a small field or a very large patch of poppies then you're not going to be able to collect a large amount of latex/opium. And if you do have a small field or a very large patch of poppies, then it'd be a lot of time/labor going from plant to plant every day and lancing 3 or 4 or more pods on each plant, then later in the evening going back to each plant and collecting the latex/opium off each pod. And doing that every day for a week or two. That'd be probably at least 2 to 3 hours or work each day.
Making a tea is a much more effective and efficient method of making use of what the plant has to offer.
The cultivar I grew this year (unknown, possibly a Tasmanian variety) did leak out a TON of latex tho. I cut two pods just out of curiosity to see since it was the first time growing this cultivar...and the latex came dripping out like I had just sliced a bag of milk lol. There was so much latex flowing out that it was literally dripping off the pod into the soil below. I never used any of my pods for cutting/collecting latex tho, just cut those two out of curiosity to see how much latex would run out of them. (the variety I grew last year had almost no latex drip out of them at all, but they were still plenty potent in tea).
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..finally got something to contribute
Right on. 
Are you in the southern hemisphere?
If you're in the northern hemisphere then it's pretty late into the season for the plants to grow and bloom to their full potential. If so tho, I am very curious to see how they end up growing and blooming since I've never seen or heard about poppies being sown & grown this late into the year in the northern hemi.
But if you are in the southern...then I'd assume this is probably around the ideal time to start em' (?). Since I do so about a month after the winter solstice.
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Re: 2020 papavar sp. id request [Re: openmind]
#26825427 - 07/15/20 02:50 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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So incising the poppies is considered worthless? Noted.
I suppose it's more congenial to just eat the entire pod, and not futz about by slicing it while it grows.
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Re: 2020 papavar sp. id request [Re: Totodile386]
#26826361 - 07/16/20 05:55 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have been letting my pods dry and the crack em open for seeds but collecting the empty pods. I will do a CWE and then concentrate by freezing the solution and removing the oil left on top. Once I have powder I plan to dilute into laudanum tincture for safe application.
I noticed a lot of my seeds are lighter colored. I started with an allbin one mox of like 19 varieties so I assume they're healthy. Some are grey/blue/black so I assumed it's just the genetics, not immaturity.
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Re: 2020 papavar sp. id request [Re: Failboat]
#26826397 - 07/16/20 06:48 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Question: How many poppy heads will make 1 hearty dose of opium tea?
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Re: 2020 papavar sp. id request [Re: Totodile386]
#26826883 - 07/16/20 12:12 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Totodile386 said: Question: How many poppy heads will make 1 hearty dose of opium tea?
Dosage suggestions is against the rules of the forums....
...dosage advice in regards to something that can be extremely variable in potency and something that can be lethal if one takes too much, such as poppy pods, is very against the rules here. And a "hearty dose" can be quite different depending on the persons definition of "hearty" along with their individual tolerance and sensitivity. What's "hearty" for one person might kill another. What's hearty for one person might barely be a light buzz for another.
The only things that can be discussed in regards to dosage around the shroomery are the classic psychedelics (Mushrooms, cactus/mescaline, DMT, ayahuasca, LSD, Salvia, Cannabis, MG seeds, etc etc).
A google search on the topic of "poppy pod dose" should give you a pretty good idea of where to start though...Start small/low of course. And if you find your first dose to be a bit weak then wait at least 2 to 3 hours before you consider taking more. I find that poppy tea takes a while to fully set in. I start to feel it somewhat quickly, within about 15 minutes, but it takes a long while to fully develop and doesn't peak for me until about 2.5 to 5 hours after drinking it.
I also suggest to not drink it two days in a row, I always space out my servings by at least a couple days or more...You can use it how ever you wish of course lol, that's just one of my own "rules" to keep things in moderation/keep tolerance down....Of course I'd love to have a cup of tea every day, but I'm being realistic and mindful about what it is I'm working with so I don't.
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Re: 2020 papavar sp. id request [Re: openmind] 1
#26827162 - 07/16/20 02:58 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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A couple poppy plants showed up in my front garden this year , theere were lots in my gardens when i first moved in but i havnt seen any in a couple years, gona collect the seeds this year so i can repopulate my garden for nxt year
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Re: 2020 papavar sp. id request [Re: Marmie]
#26828565 - 07/17/20 09:42 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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@openmind
Yeah down south in sunny South Africa...
@Marmie
Bonus score!! Those look sexy!!
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Re: 2020 papavar sp. id request [Re: Zifozonke]
#26832870 - 07/19/20 04:56 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Typerwritermonky said:

~600g fully dried pods. Excited what to do with them!!! probably make opium with bubble bags, then laudunum as well!
It is water soluble. How do you extract water soluble with bags?
Just download opium for masses and get the specs from there. Simple water extraction with citric acid and temp of 80-100C and time of 30 min. After 30 min straw and repeat with the plant material with addec citric acid and water(just a little bit, or use 1 lime) I used to do3 pulls and compine them.
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Re: 2020 papavar sp. id request [Re: MadMuncher]
#26833091 - 07/19/20 07:24 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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MadMuncher said: id request

Not somniferum imho. But for me I need better picture of the leafs to id. Easiest for me from leafs.
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