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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: dizzy_simmons]
    #26791643 - 06/29/20 08:51 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Come to think of it, I have seen that growing around here before. Sad to say but it's juts a weed. I think your seeds were good mate, they probably just never germinated, or got overtaken by your lawn.


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: Allium]
    #26792102 - 06/29/20 01:32 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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I have had this strain for a few years now, but now, I kinda want to get some potent ones just for the hell for it :wink:

All the Cannabis concoctions that I've always made taste just plain awful, and 90 percent of the time they don't even work at all. I wasted a good half pound of buds last harvest making edibles that didn't work, or were extremely weak. And yes I even decarbed my herb too.

I don't like eating cannabis at all really, I'd just rather smoke it. It's just way too much trouble,and it stinks up your house something awful!

To each his own I guess :grin:

Oh,and I also prefer eating fresh shrooms over dry, but both taste great to me!





I'm not sure what variety I have right now, I'm assuming they might be a Tasmanian variety :shrug: . They're white petals with purple marks/streaks on each petal. I'll post some pics of them eventually. But 2 of em' is plenty for me.

I too prefer smoking cannabis rather than eating it...but I do enjoy edibles for certain occasions. The effects are a bit different compared to smoking, more potent/heavier and tends to get a bit psychedelic. The metabolite that is formed from THC being metabolized via the liver is waaay more potent than THC itself and is never present when the herb is just smoked.

Strange that those edibles you made didn't work...perhaps you're one of those folks that don't really get effects from edibles/something going on with your enzymes. It seems like some people just don't really get much from edibles and/or they have to eat very large amounts.


I don't find that making cannabis oil/edibles stinks tho...I looove the smell of the herb, I really enjoy the smell of the herb being infused or baked into things.







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Come to think of it, I have seen that growing around here before. Sad to say but it's juts a weed. I think your seeds were good mate, they probably just never germinated, or got overtaken by your lawn.





I've never seen that plant before/not familiar with it, but I too was kinda thinking the same thing...that the seeds may have never actually germinated at all and those plants might just be some random weeds that popped up in the same place :shrug: .

I mean they're obviously not poppies...but initially I was thinking maybe the wrong seeds were in that pack of seed, but I think maybe they were actually poppy seeds but they just never germinated at all and those plants that are growing are just some random native plants/weeds.






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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: openmind]
    #26792170 - 06/29/20 02:00 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: openmind]
    #26792174 - 06/29/20 02:01 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, mine are not just that potent of a variety, that's all. Just like you have low THC cannabis, and High THC cannabis strains, the same applies to poppies as well :grin:

I actually love the effects of cannabis edibles, it's just been so long since I experienced them, I just gave up on it.

I don't know why I can't get anything off of mine when eaten, but I have tried many different ways with little to no effect.

I remember making potent batches of cannabutter back in the day, and now I can't do it anymore for some reason.

I didn't mean cooked cannabis stinks up your house as in stinks! I meant it smells up your house, and one day I was cooking some up, and you could smell it strong outside my house. When the mailman brought me a package, he was like you better be careful bro, and he smirked and walked away.


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: redeyesmj]
    #26792975 - 06/29/20 07:15 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Just found this. Talk about serendipity! :shocked:

“(Wild Lettuce) was used in the 19th century by physicians when opium could not be obtained. It was studied extensively by the Council of the Pharmaceutical Society of Great Britain in 1911. They discovered two chemicals responsible for the properties of L. virosa; lactucopicrin and lactucin. In the United States, the plant experienced a resurgence in popularity in the 1970s. Today the plant is un-scheduled by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), meaning it is legal to grow, purchase, and own without prescription or licence.

"Wild Salad" has long been known in the world of "natural remedies" or "alternative treatments". It is often referred to as the poor man’s opium.[10]”

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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: dizzy_simmons]
    #26792985 - 06/29/20 07:19 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I think it grows all over here! I'm going to take some pics next time I see some :thumbup:


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: Allium]
    #26793887 - 06/30/20 07:18 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

So I just want seeds. Maybe some dried pods. Purely cosmetic.

1. How do I go about getting the seeds out.?
2. When do they mature?
3. How do I dry the pods out to keep long term?

Thanks so much.


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: Hobbit GDF]
    #26794269 - 06/30/20 10:52 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

If you harvested your pods at the right time, you can break them open and dump out all the seeds. Amazingly all my seeds were viable in most every pod that I harvested.

You can also let them just die back and dry on the stem, but eventually little vents will open at the top of the pod dispersing the seeds.


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: Allium]
    #26795077 - 06/30/20 05:31 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Cool.

That's all I want out of them. Aren't they pretty. We feed our pet squirrel the petals. He loves flower petals of any kind.
So how long till I can get the seeds out?

The blue buddha is starting to bloom. The bulb is split and you can see the petals. It looks like the x247 so far


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: dizzy_simmons]
    #26795187 - 06/30/20 06:29 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Just found this. Talk about serendipity! :shocked:

“(Wild Lettuce) was used in the 19th century by physicians when opium could not be obtained. It was studied extensively by the Council of the Pharmaceutical Society of Great Britain in 1911. They discovered two chemicals responsible for the properties of L. virosa; lactucopicrin and lactucin. In the United States, the plant experienced a resurgence in popularity in the 1970s. Today the plant is un-scheduled by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), meaning it is legal to grow, purchase, and own without prescription or licence.

"Wild Salad" has long been known in the world of "natural remedies" or "alternative treatments". It is often referred to as the poor man’s opium.[10]”

Wikipedia





Well they definitely make a milky latex so they could very well be wild lettuce.  They appeared in rows where i planted seeds so i assume they came from the seed packets and not just from my yard.  I emailed the company with pics asking what they thought it was...no response yet.


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: Hobbit GDF]
    #26795335 - 06/30/20 07:22 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Cool.

That's all I want out of them. Aren't they pretty. We feed our pet squirrel the petals. He loves flower petals of any kind.
So how long till I can get the seeds out?

The blue buddha is starting to bloom. The bulb is split and you can see the petals. It looks like the x247 so far





You could harvest a few of those for seed and still get viable seed. Just let the seeds dry on a plate or tray before storing them.
Best just to wait until the plant dies though just to be sure though.

I can usually judge when I can harvest mine and still get seeds,an this season I was spot on! I got a grip of pink blue and red seeds, with a small amount of whit mixed in.


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: Allium]
    #26795566 - 06/30/20 08:52 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

The seeds from them pods are orangeish red


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: Hobbit GDF]
    #26795581 - 06/30/20 09:00 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Let em dry out, they are most likely good to go :thumbup:


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: Hobbit GDF]
    #26803477 - 07/04/20 12:05 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I just had a few pods with orange seeds too. I do believe this is due to picking a little early. I am curious, will seeds ripen after the pods have been picked?

For those picking instead of scoring, when do you choose to pick? I have been waiting for the glaucous coat to appear and crown to point upwards. However, these pods are resulting in white/orange seeds. My fear is that if I wait till the vents open I will lose potency. Research has resulted in conflicting opinions on whether much potency is lost when letting them dry on the stem as opposed to picking when they have upwards crowns.

I tried to follow the photo Mateo posts saying to wait for a brown ring. IME none of my poppies ever get that ring.


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: IgnorantOne]
    #26803738 - 07/04/20 02:51 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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For those picking instead of scoring, when do you choose to pick?






I try to do so right before the vents start to open up. If one observes the pods each day you can see when they're getting close to opening up, sometimes just one little opening at the top of the pod can be seen or you can see the skin of the pod start to get thin & start to rip open a bit...sometimes it happens quicker than I anticipated and I end up harvesting them with the vents open. But most of what I harvest is done roughly 1 to 3 days before the vents open.

I don't notice much or any potency difference between the pods I harvested a little early (immature seeds) and those that have vents starting to open up. But I do wonder about when the pods are actually at their peak. And I also wonder if/how the ratio & profile of alkaloids change over time, from young immature pods to fully ripe pods with vents open.

I'm not sure when the plants/pods actually hit peak potency. But I'd assume it would be right before the vents start to open up :shrug: . I don't know if the plant "switches off" the mechanism/enzymes/pathway that synthesizes the alkaloids at some point, I feel it would continue to do so all the way up until the seeds are ripe..(?)...

(It is said mushrooms hit peak potency right before the veil breaks to release spores, cannabis tends to hit peak THC just a bit before the plants starts to die and go deep into senescence....maybe not the best comparison tho)





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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: openmind]
    #26812994 - 07/09/20 01:53 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)



4 more pods of this giganteum still maturing


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: Nowheremans]
    #26813002 - 07/09/20 01:56 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

nice. i picked a bunch of California poppy pods, they are like 3 inches long. hold on i will take a picture. how many pods are recommended to use for a relaxing tea?


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: MadMuncher]
    #26813102 - 07/09/20 02:43 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I think California Poppies are an ornamental poppy and do not produce latex? Someone correct me if I am wrong. Iirc they are not P. Som's


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: IgnorantOne]
    #26813120 - 07/09/20 02:54 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

they do not contain opium at least in any useable quantity but they get you kinda high. the pods smell like soap and bleach


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    #26813553 - 07/09/20 07:03 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I got spooked and ripped all my plants down. Dried the pods upside down on about 12in of stem. I just wanted seeds. I grew them all the way. I feel successful in that alone. I'm happy. Thank you everyone who helped. I love your flowers.
All mine, even tho different all came out white with little purple streak in center of flower. Besides the BWC. Those were solid white.


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