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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: sacramentum]
    #26663633 - 05/11/20 12:06 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Hello thank you!
they are acclimated versions of the cultivar caled "Laurens Grape"
there is valuable information about its bio-alkaloid production and it also has lovely flowers

heres an excerpt on certain cultivars phyto-alkoloidal contents if ya'll are curious

1 ‘Queens Poppy’ 676 ± 72/100mg; n = 4 Lääne-Viru county, Vinni municipality, Võhu
village (2012)
2 var. paeoniflorum ‘Scarlet Peony’ 335 ± 29/100mg; n = 4 same
3 var. paeoniflorum ‘Black Peony’ 332 ± 38/100mg; n = 4 same
4 ‘White Cloud’ 344 ± 37/100mg; n = 4 same
5 var. paeoniflorum ‘Flemish Antique’ 416 ± 91/100mg; n = 4 same
6 ‘Giganteum’ 323 ± 57/100mg; n = 4 same
7 ‘Pink Chiffon’ 277 ± 66/100mg; n = 4 same
8 var. paeoniflorum ‘Black Dragon’ 396 ± 71/100mg; n = 4 same
9 ‘Lauren’s Grape’ 627 ± 70/100mg; n = 4 same


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: MCBOOSTY25] * 1
    #26664071 - 05/11/20 08:33 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Nice, i used to grow those ones. the only downside to them is small pods.

here is that kandahar afghan from yesterday. genuine afghan landrace originally imported from kandahar province. medium-large pods and very high latex yield.


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: MCBOOSTY25]
    #26664558 - 05/11/20 01:41 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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heres an excerpt on certain cultivars phyto-alkoloidal contents if ya'll are curious

1 ‘Queens Poppy’ 676 ± 72/100mg; n = 4 Lääne-Viru county, Vinni municipality, Võhu
village (2012)
2 var. paeoniflorum ‘Scarlet Peony’ 335 ± 29/100mg; n = 4 same
3 var. paeoniflorum ‘Black Peony’ 332 ± 38/100mg; n = 4 same
4 ‘White Cloud’ 344 ± 37/100mg; n = 4 same
5 var. paeoniflorum ‘Flemish Antique’ 416 ± 91/100mg; n = 4 same
6 ‘Giganteum’ 323 ± 57/100mg; n = 4 same
7 ‘Pink Chiffon’ 277 ± 66/100mg; n = 4 same
8 var. paeoniflorum ‘Black Dragon’ 396 ± 71/100mg; n = 4 same
9 ‘Lauren’s Grape’ 627 ± 70/100mg; n = 4 same






How does one read & interpret that data?


What does "627 ± 70/100mg; n = 4 same" mean?

I know it's in regards to alkaloid content, but I don't know what "627 ± 70/100mg" translates into or what the "627" or the "70" indicates/represents.





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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: openmind]
    #26664580 - 05/11/20 01:50 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

average of 627 mg of morphine per 100 grams of dried plant material, i assume the ± is referring to the high and low ends.


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: sacramentum]
    #26664814 - 05/11/20 03:45 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

n is the sample size.


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: koods]
    #26665098 - 05/11/20 06:22 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

± = plus or minus I'm assuming
Anyne know where I can get some queens poppy or Lauren's grape? :pm:


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: Psyche delics]
    #26665434 - 05/11/20 09:02 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

My poppies are starting to get pale and unhealthy looking and they’ve stopped getting bigger. Looks like I’m not going to get any lasting to adulthood. These are a really weak species of plant. I have no idea how they haven’t gone extinct.


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: Psyche delics] * 1
    #26665498 - 05/11/20 09:45 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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± = plus or minus I'm assuming
Anyne know where I can get some queens poppy or Lauren's grape? :pm:




got these at the farm store


let you know in a few months if you're still looking


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: koods]
    #26665556 - 05/11/20 10:30 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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My poppies are starting to get pale and unhealthy looking and they’ve stopped getting bigger. Looks like I’m not going to get any lasting to adulthood. These are a really weak species of plant. I have no idea how they haven’t gone extinct.



bruh they grow like weeds. if you can grow dandelions you can grow poppy. next time just put the seeds on loose soil in direct sun and they’ll grow just fine.


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: sacramentum] * 1
    #26665567 - 05/11/20 10:36 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)


not too happy with these plants this year. kinda shrimpy. been pulling up lots of em to make spce for other things


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: openmind]
    #26665603 - 05/11/20 11:00 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

in regards to the data, i figured for communicability sake,

i would round the denominator down to a rough comparison within a known amount of plant matter extract utilized, (flaked, putty or whatver) within a sesh

I.E.
orthodox data seems to suggest that a "pin" is a recommended amount to vaporize
most of my research indicated that a "pin" is equal to roughly .1g which is equal to 100mg

as an edit i may put 100(mg)* in the earlier post because you can read it equally well imperially as the value within a given amount* as well. But the comparison is roughly equidistant for our needs, and equally readable as a value table for those interested in p.somniferum varietal alkaloid amounts.


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: MCBOOSTY25]
    #26665609 - 05/11/20 11:06 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Evaluation of selected poppy (Papaver somniferum L.) lines by their morphine and other alkaloids contents
interesting paper, especialy for those of us who grow turkish poppy lines.


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: sacramentum]
    #26667559 - 05/12/20 09:29 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)


more kandahar.


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: sacramentum]
    #26667568 - 05/12/20 09:37 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Babies are bigger. Are they to small for the season?



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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: Hobbit GDF]
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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: sacramentum]
    #26671846 - 05/15/20 02:44 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

More Laurens Grape



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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: MCBOOSTY25]
    #26671869 - 05/15/20 03:11 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

have nearly 50 of these in one planter, got a wetness/ph meter in the soil of said planter. They def drink ALOT throughout the day!!

Have kept up foliar nitrogen feeding (1x day) and drip feed watering(~2gal) dispersed across the day according to the meter

the poppies seem to all be growing larger/more bulbus headsites. The pods of the the earliest flowering ones have almost tripled in size in under a week as well & have taken on a glaucus blue hue; same plant also is continuing to form more flowering sites.

im starting not to totally understand the logic of the recommended drought/tapering off of water as the plant matures.

I may take that advice at the VERY VERY end. However throughout the first sets of blooms keep up the watering/foliar feeds if you want more heads; just control the dosing of both.


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: MCBOOSTY25]
    #26672301 - 05/15/20 09:38 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I planted thousands of seeds. Not a single one survived. Worst plant ever.


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: koods]
    #26672479 - 05/15/20 11:25 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

i’m sure its the plant itself thats the problem and not the way you tried to grow it


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Re: 2020 poppy thread [Re: sacramentum]
    #26672488 - 05/15/20 11:33 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)


Is this a poppy I have a bunch of these in with my seedlings and they have the same two leaves at the bottom but they don't look like poppies to me?


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