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Tripglass420
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HIGHEST possible amount of pins!!
#26505219 - 02/26/20 05:04 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Considering ALL possible factors of a grow, what would be the key part in producing the MOST number of pins. Not necessarily the highest yield or greatest weight. Not even just large fruits themselves. Just the literal number of fruits at its maximum potential.
What would be the main focus if this was the goal?
Temp? Humidity? Hydration level of the substrate?
Type of substrate? Like poo,coir,straw etc.
The size of the growing medium, as far as depth, surface area or even ration of spawn to substrate?
Does the size of the fruiting chamber have an effect of it?
Again, all factors taken into consideration which one will allow me to get the MOST pins?
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Shroomhunts
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Re: HIGHEST possible amount of pins!! [Re: Tripglass420]
#26505234 - 02/26/20 05:20 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Proper surface conditions combined with good genetics, ideally a clone culture from a large cluster. Grain spawned to a good substrate recipe with a depth of 3-4 inches Larger tubs tend to be harder to achieve ideal surface conditions so several medium sized tubs would be preferred .
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Edited by Shroomhunts (02/26/20 05:24 PM)
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MLPismyOPSEC
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Re: HIGHEST possible amount of pins!! [Re: Shroomhunts]
#26506103 - 02/27/20 08:36 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I would bet that genetics play the biggest role, hydration probably second, then everything else to much, much lesser degrees.
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SpunkyMonkey88
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Re: HIGHEST possible amount of pins!! [Re: MLPismyOPSEC]
#26506177 - 02/27/20 09:20 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nobodies gonna tell the dude, high spawn to sub ratio?
Edited by SpunkyMonkey88 (02/27/20 09:20 AM)
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Shroomhunts
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If you are using a sub will a lot of nutrients it shouldn’t matter but if it’s just coir it would definitely make a difference
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Re: HIGHEST possible amount of pins!! [Re: Shroomhunts]
#26506233 - 02/27/20 10:00 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Why would you want the maximum amount of pins? It is pointless as most of them would not be able to develop to a full sized fruit due to space constraints.
But as others explained before it is mainly genetics and proper environment.
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Re: HIGHEST possible amount of pins!! [Re: eLeSDenes]
#26506249 - 02/27/20 10:10 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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it's not one thing or the other but a combination of it all ...the perfect storm. good genetics, enough food and water to support it a proper substrate type( something like strait course verm won't do as well as coir/manure do to texture) conditions ( lighting fae ect) substrate depth and surface area have little bearing on pinset and yield it's more of a way to manipulate the method in which the grower dials his conditions in, a mono tub can produce a wall to wall pinset of 8 inch fruits from a 1 inch substrate with the holes completely open but you would have to keep up with misting to rehydrate the substrate but at 4 inches of substrate you can just stuff the holes and the amount of heat put off as it digests the substrate will give you good surface conditions with the help of dialing your holes in.
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Re: HIGHEST possible amount of pins!! [Re: eLeSDenes]
#26506258 - 02/27/20 10:15 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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eLeSDenes said: Why would you want the maximum amount of pins? It is pointless as most of them would not be able to develop to a full sized fruit due to space constraints.
But as others explained before it is mainly genetics and proper environment.



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Re: HIGHEST possible amount of pins!! [Re: cronicr]
#26506266 - 02/27/20 10:22 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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cronicr said:
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eLeSDenes said: Why would you want the maximum amount of pins? It is pointless as most of them would not be able to develop to a full sized fruit due to space constraints.
But as others explained before it is mainly genetics and proper environment.




Fucking dense! Jesus
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Re: HIGHEST possible amount of pins!! [Re: cronicr]
#26506287 - 02/27/20 10:32 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Tripglass420
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Re: HIGHEST possible amount of pins!! [Re: Shroomhunts]
#26507828 - 02/28/20 09:05 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Such amazing feedback from everyone. I totally understand how there are many factors that attribute to this but the answers I received here are above and beyond what I had expected.
The high spawn go sub ratio using coir is very helpful in my situation as well as multiple medium sized tubs versus 1 humongous tub also opened my eyes a bit more.
My original account on this site was "azurescious" back in 2005/2006 so I've been a long member here but only recently have been active on the threads and have been on hiatus from the mush world due to variety of reasons (cannabis cultivation being the primary cause for where most of my attention was) I can't say thank you enough for all the wonderful information I've received here
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Re: HIGHEST possible amount of pins!! [Re: Tripglass420]
#26507844 - 02/28/20 09:20 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Welp, nice knowing ya lol 
If you read this before the ban stick comes around, PM Ythan or another admin to reset your old PW.
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cronicr



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Re: HIGHEST possible amount of pins!! [Re: feldman114]
#26508054 - 02/28/20 11:49 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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his 15 year old account had less then 50 posts and 2 ratings I think we can let it slide lol
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Re: HIGHEST possible amount of pins!! [Re: cronicr]
#26508068 - 02/28/20 11:54 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Haha I’m not sharking him, I promise. Just that I went through a similar misunderstanding a while back.
Plus, let’s get real, “azurescious” is a dope ass username don’t let that shit slip away dude!
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cronicr



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Re: HIGHEST possible amount of pins!! [Re: feldman114]
#26508074 - 02/28/20 11:57 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I would file a support ticket and try get it back, instant market access
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