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Shooting at Miller brewery
    #26505185 - 02/26/20 04:44 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Well it's molson coors now but right down the road from me. Know a lot of people that have or do work there.
Every picture you can see one of the no weapons signs that litter the campus like graffiti. Didn't work well. Mayor trolley-tard Barret is there virtue signalling along with the alderman.

Despite being a gun free zone luckily the shooter didn't pick the buildings with the engineers that give two fucks about the corporate weapons policy. I imagine it would have ended more like the recent Texas church shooting.

What gun law would have stopped today? None.


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Re: Shooting at Miller brewery [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26505216 - 02/26/20 05:03 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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What gun law would have stopped today? None.




Exactly.

But I'm sure someone will come in and say something to the effect of "if all guns were illegal then there would be no shootings"

Guns laws will not stop anyone who really wants a weapon from getting one. And will definitely not stop criminals from getting them.

This quote sums up my views on this matter:

“An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.” -Robert A. Heinlein

In a sane society these shootings would be a push for safety and education on firearms. And even a push for more responsible adults to obtain concealed carry permits.


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Re: Shooting at Miller brewery [Re: BabylonRuleDem]
    #26505233 - 02/26/20 05:18 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Permit. Lol here's my concealed carry permit
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Re: Shooting at Miller brewery [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26505292 - 02/26/20 05:55 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

actually if we outlawed guns it would be less likely for this to happen

not that i care


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Re: Shooting at Miller brewery [Re: cannabinated]
    #26505321 - 02/26/20 06:09 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

It would take a few generations to get rid of all the guns, in america, with the most strict plan. Then we would sacrifice a little bit of safety from each other for no safety from tyranny


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Re: Shooting at Miller brewery [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26505330 - 02/26/20 06:17 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I don't think we should ban guns. I do think we should have some stricter regulations on who can own one. You should have to pass an IQ test, emotional intelligence test, and have an in depth mental health review, and maybe even more tests. Not just for guns either, we need this for voting rights, child birth rights, and driving rights.

They should do "stop and frisk" and large corporations and gatherings!


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Re: Shooting at Miller brewery [Re: bodhisatta] * 2
    #26505496 - 02/26/20 08:33 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

In Canada guns are already pretty restricted but some in the political sphere like to pretend that additional restrictions are the solution to remaining gun crime. But really it has more to do with smuggling and gangs. Specifically with handguns, it is much easier to smuggle them in than to somehow divert legally owned ones. A legal handgun owner in Canada is pretty much just allowed to take it back and forth to the gun range.


Don't think anything like our system would ever fly in the US, nor would I presume to say what should be done there in this regard. But in our situation I think the laws work pretty well for what they're designed to do. And I think the fact that there are not already tons of easy to get guns actually reduces demand for them. You're less likely to feel like you need one to potentially use against humans if relatively few other people have them for that purpose.


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Re: Shooting at Miller brewery [Re: Lophosaurus] * 2
    #26505574 - 02/26/20 09:34 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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You should have to pass an IQ test, emotional intelligence test, and have an in depth mental health review, and maybe even more tests. Not just for guns either, we need this for voting rights, child birth rights, and driving rights.






I'm going to focus on the driving rights part of this. Because I totally agree a thousand percent. We just give anybody with a semi-halfway-functioning brain a license to drive a 2 ton piece of metal that is designed to travel at high speeds. Shit I don't even think you need a functioning brain. You just need to be able to breathe.

Every calendar year anywhere from 35,000 to 50,000 people are killed in car wrecks on US roads. It's amazing to me. I spent like 7 years of employment as a driver, and dude, the number of absolutely inept and clueless drivers is astounding. It's absurd. I mean you people know. Y'all are on these roads and see these people.

Roads world wide are as much of a death trap as anything. There really should be much tougher and stringent barriers to acquiring a drivers license than we actually have, I fully believe that.


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Re: Shooting at Miller brewery [Re: Niffla] * 3
    #26505592 - 02/26/20 09:53 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah there is constant carnage on the roads and it's not talked about much because the whole economy centers around automobiles. When it is, they act like the problem is limited to drunk drivers and texters etc. But a lot of it is just sober idiots/assholes not taking the life-and-death responsibility of driving more seriously.


Automation may make it a moot point in the coming years though.


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Re: Shooting at Miller brewery [Re: cannabinated]
    #26505596 - 02/26/20 09:58 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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actually if we outlawed guns it would be less likely for this to happen

not that i care



Locks only keep honest people out.


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Re: Shooting at Miller brewery [Re: The Influence]
    #26505632 - 02/26/20 10:31 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

doors do

locks actually decrease the chance of theft


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Re: Shooting at Miller brewery [Re: cannabinated]
    #26505638 - 02/26/20 10:35 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Doors and locks deter theft? Maybe you should look into the statistics on burglaries.


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Re: Shooting at Miller brewery [Re: The Influence]
    #26505643 - 02/26/20 10:40 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I broke into unlocked houses :shrug:

maybe you should show me. I'm like 100% sure youre wrong.


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Re: Shooting at Miller brewery [Re: cannabinated]
    #26505644 - 02/26/20 10:42 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

And a thin pane of glass is not a lock.

Burglaries usually happen when the resident isnt there.


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Re: Shooting at Miller brewery [Re: cannabinated]
    #26505649 - 02/26/20 10:44 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

They never know if you have a gun or not. Guns dont deter burglars. Common sense does.


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Re: Shooting at Miller brewery [Re: cannabinated]
    #26505660 - 02/26/20 10:50 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I have only broken into places where I lived and was supposed to be. Usually through a window.


My parents' house was broken into many times until they put bars on the windows and beefed up the locks. Once when my sister was home. Luckily the dude was not a much bigger lowlife, and just told her some bullshit and left.


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Re: Shooting at Miller brewery [Re: cannabinated]
    #26505668 - 02/26/20 10:56 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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I broke into unlocked houses :shrug:




Well your a stand up citizen for not kicking a door in.

The whole point of what I originally posted was only people that already respect the law will abide by it.


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Re: Shooting at Miller brewery [Re: The Influence]
    #26505671 - 02/26/20 10:58 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I thought you said something about facts?


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Re: Shooting at Miller brewery [Re: cannabinated]
    #26505675 - 02/26/20 11:05 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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I thought you said something about facts?



Never said anything about facts.....just said look up some statistics about break ins. You seem to want to be confrontational and believe that taking guns away from law abiding citizens will stop gun violations.



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Re: Shooting at Miller brewery [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26505677 - 02/26/20 11:08 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

if a person couldnt get a gun, theyd probably just get a knife, like in London. i would actually rather be shot than stabbed, from what ive heard


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