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OfflineCory Duchesne
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Re: Money is Alienation [Re: Rahz]
    #26504607 - 02/26/20 10:09 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Some people use money to buy control over the decisions and property of others.  Using money to command people and book their target's calender.


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Re: Money is Alienation [Re: Cory Duchesne]
    #26504658 - 02/26/20 10:50 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

exercising control over others' properties suggests that we have limited property rights, and that makes sense. it enables others to do what they need to do. eg: fly over, utilities easements, rights of way, building restrictions etc.

money is just a measure of the limited property control. there are others, although the other measures of control are also convertible to cash based arrangements.


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Re: Money is Alienation [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26504677 - 02/26/20 11:09 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

This suggests what might be called a deeper cause--- So who wrote this :

"INDUSTRIAL SOCIETY ....

Introduction

1. The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the
  human race. They have greatly increased the life-expectancy of those of us
  who live in “advanced” countries, but they have destabilized society, have
  made life unfulfilling, have subjected human beings to indignities, have led
  to widespread psychological suffering (in the Third World to physical
  suffering as well) and have inflicted severe damage on the natural world. The
  continued development of technology will worsen the situation. It will
  certainly subject human beings to greater indignities and inflict greater
  damage on the natural world, it will probably lead to greater social
  disruption and psychological suffering, and it may lead to increased physical
  suffering even in “advanced” countries.

2. The industrial-technological system may survive or it may break down. If it
  survives, it MAY eventually achieve a low level of physical and psychological
  suffering, but only after passing through a long and very painful period of
  adjustment and only at the cost of permanently reducing human beings and many
  other living organisms to engineered products and mere cogs in the social
  machine. Furthermore, if the system survives, the consequences will be
  inevitable: There is no way of reforming or modifying the system so as to
  prevent it from depriving people of dignity and autonomy.

etc. etc. ...."


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Re: Money is Alienation [Re: Rahz]
    #26505078 - 02/26/20 03:49 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

well yes your probably right it would happen one way or another,

your right non fiat based is a more reasonable idea, but of course i guess it only slows things down. With non fiat based, at least people are less likely to rely on currency. You work for yourself and non-fiat is there to get the things you can't acquire yourself.  Definitely a good mid point between the two extremes. Definitely once we started relying on money that's the moment we all got fucked.

At the end of the day your completely right to blame people, because people are always to blame. Money was simply the fastest way to revert to human sin and that's exactly what happened. Money definitely makes centralisation a hell of a lot easier, it works as a universal measure to define a caste, religion definitely helps as well with the great chain of being. Whats worse is when religion and money work together which is usually the case in most instances.

Of course nowadays it's hard to imagine a world without money and for sure there is no turning back for us now. We'd need to go back to the iron age for that.

Your right our own sin is to blame in the end. But then who's to blame for that? When did we even start sinning anyway? I guess that's a question for another topic.


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