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Cory Duchesne
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Re: Money is Alienation [Re: Rahz]
#26504607 - 02/26/20 10:09 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Some people use money to buy control over the decisions and property of others. Using money to command people and book their target's calender.
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redgreenvines
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exercising control over others' properties suggests that we have limited property rights, and that makes sense. it enables others to do what they need to do. eg: fly over, utilities easements, rights of way, building restrictions etc.
money is just a measure of the limited property control. there are others, although the other measures of control are also convertible to cash based arrangements.
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laughingdog
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This suggests what might be called a deeper cause--- So who wrote this :
"INDUSTRIAL SOCIETY ....
Introduction
1. The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. They have greatly increased the life-expectancy of those of us who live in “advanced” countries, but they have destabilized society, have made life unfulfilling, have subjected human beings to indignities, have led to widespread psychological suffering (in the Third World to physical suffering as well) and have inflicted severe damage on the natural world. The continued development of technology will worsen the situation. It will certainly subject human beings to greater indignities and inflict greater damage on the natural world, it will probably lead to greater social disruption and psychological suffering, and it may lead to increased physical suffering even in “advanced” countries.
2. The industrial-technological system may survive or it may break down. If it survives, it MAY eventually achieve a low level of physical and psychological suffering, but only after passing through a long and very painful period of adjustment and only at the cost of permanently reducing human beings and many other living organisms to engineered products and mere cogs in the social machine. Furthermore, if the system survives, the consequences will be inevitable: There is no way of reforming or modifying the system so as to prevent it from depriving people of dignity and autonomy.
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Re: Money is Alienation [Re: Rahz]
#26505078 - 02/26/20 03:49 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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well yes your probably right it would happen one way or another,
your right non fiat based is a more reasonable idea, but of course i guess it only slows things down. With non fiat based, at least people are less likely to rely on currency. You work for yourself and non-fiat is there to get the things you can't acquire yourself. Definitely a good mid point between the two extremes. Definitely once we started relying on money that's the moment we all got fucked.
At the end of the day your completely right to blame people, because people are always to blame. Money was simply the fastest way to revert to human sin and that's exactly what happened. Money definitely makes centralisation a hell of a lot easier, it works as a universal measure to define a caste, religion definitely helps as well with the great chain of being. Whats worse is when religion and money work together which is usually the case in most instances.
Of course nowadays it's hard to imagine a world without money and for sure there is no turning back for us now. We'd need to go back to the iron age for that.
Your right our own sin is to blame in the end. But then who's to blame for that? When did we even start sinning anyway? I guess that's a question for another topic.
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