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Re: I have sex with older women, married women, widows and divorcees [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26503017 - 02/25/20 11:46 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Thana and Rofl, you 2 can do what you like, but don't try to impose your archaic idealism(s) set forth through a book that was designed to control masses of people through guilt and fear. This is a new dawn, a new age, and people will not be controlled. You parents did an excellent job of imprinting you as well as whatever institutional learning facilities you may have attended, or home schooled. If these ideas and things in your head are through your own research and life experiences, then please live more, read more, do more, get out there and live life!:heart:




Calling people conditioned when you provide a predictable response. It isn’t about controlling people in the sense you meant it.




Sex for pleasure has done more long term harm than it has helped.
Maybe for you/in your eyes.





This isn’t my parents saying this but what I have found through experience, observation and research. If you think such attitudes are good then you need to read and get out more. You need to learn why most spiritual paths leave it behind and why.

Usually because they are asexual, gay, or bisexual, or any number of anti social anxieties that can be uncovered with therapy. There is a small % of people that just simply do not enjoy sex, and that's ok, but to try and persuade other people by using guilt trip tactics to not have sex or "see the error of their way" etc....is really silly.






Maybe humans need to be controlled since they don’t clearly don’t know what’s good for them, but that’s another story.




Oh please do tell us you all knowing thanatos,  we must know the secret that you hold within your powerful and all seeing mind on what is good for the whole of humanity.
My "predictable response" is a response to seeing people conditioned to a certain way of thinking/being.




Yes, hence why it’s predictable and expected based on he conditioning of this website.


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Re: I have sex with older women, married women, widows and divorcees [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26503024 - 02/25/20 11:50 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I’m able to put my personal feelings aside to give advice, my mental state and current problems don’t cloud my judgment. As to the previous claim about logic, I haven’t seen logic defending their position while I have explained my stance quite well. Sex for pleasure only is a hinderance to overcome as the desire for sex and the act tends to cloud our minds. Seeking pleasure is a poor choice as well since it doesn’t last and just creates a hunger for it in the future. The Buddhists had a whole argument against it that makes sense, since they achieved a greater state of being by letting go of sexual and seeking it.

From where I stand the arguments in favor of just having sex for pleasure aren’t logical but emotional.


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Re: I have sex with older women, married women, widows and divorcees [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26503040 - 02/25/20 12:02 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

But you say you still have desires “clouding your mind”. As I understand, you feel sexual attraction but don’t enjoy the act. Correct?


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Re: I have sex with older women, married women, widows and divorcees [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26503041 - 02/25/20 12:02 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Sex for pleasure only is a hinderance to overcome as the desire for sex and the act tends to cloud our minds. Seeking pleasure is a poor choice as well since it doesn’t last and just creates a hunger for it in the future. The Buddhists had a whole argument against it that makes sense, since they achieved a greater state of being by letting go of sexual and seeking it.

From where I stand the arguments in favor of just having sex for pleasure aren’t logical but emotional.



And this is a problem because of what? Why? Of course there's emotion in sex, the more emotional attachment the better the sex! What exactly is/are the thing(s) you are seeking by being unencumbered/hindered by "sex"?


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Re: I have sex with older women, married women, widows and divorcees [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26503047 - 02/25/20 12:06 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

es, hence why it’s predictable and expected based on he conditioning of this website.

This website has not conditioned me friend, years of living have shown me things that can only be lived.


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Re: I have sex with older women, married women, widows and divorcees [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26503304 - 02/25/20 02:30 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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es, hence why it’s predictable and expected based on he conditioning of this website.

This website has not conditioned me friend, years of living have shown me things that can only be lived.



Yeah I’m gonna say no, and that such a response is typical from the conditioning of this site. Your lived experience is just neuroscience. Personal experience isn’t proof of anything.

As I have said, the responses I read here are...obvious for people who claim to be against the norm.


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Re: I have sex with older women, married women, widows and divorcees [Re: Thanatos10] * 1
    #26503322 - 02/25/20 02:42 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

You know, the longer I spend here, the more I realize how diverse Shroomerites are.

There are staunch conservatives, bleeding-heart liberals, old, young, people who never even smoked pot (like mr. Enlil), people who stay high 24/7, Christians, atheists, Hindus, rich, poor, etc.


If I was you, I wouldn’t brush off the advice you get here. There’s more wisdom on these boards than there is in most religious texts, that’s for sure...


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Re: I have sex with older women, married women, widows and divorcees [Re: feldman114]
    #26503392 - 02/25/20 03:17 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Yet despite that diversity the responses aren’t so


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Re: I have sex with older women, married women, widows and divorcees [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26503993 - 02/25/20 08:23 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

What sort of things do you do with your spare time? What's the trancended life actually like? You got me sold thanatos10. I'm willing to convert to thanatosism and give it a try. Youvw stood your ground for 7 pages, you must be living the dream! Teach me the ways of thanatosism!

Is it true you can achieve not a single boner again in your entire life? Not even if the hottest woman you've ever imagined started giving you a blow job? How do you do it, thanatos10?


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Re: I have sex with older women, married women, widows and divorcees [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #26504623 - 02/26/20 10:21 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Since he can't answer, it's pretty much proof enough that he doesn't actually live by his words. Hes probably still  prone to uncontrollable boners and hornyness and emotional arousal at the sight of a compatible sexual partner. He will speak and preach, but only for entertainment. He doesn't actually practice any of that


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Re: I have sex with older women, married women, widows and divorcees [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26504641 - 02/26/20 10:36 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Sex for pleasure only is a hindrance to overcome as the desire for sex and the act tends to cloud our minds.

Can you say why you are trying to overcome this hindrance? What level are you trying to attain? Where are you going with this whole thing? Are you like Morrisy like the time he claimed celibacy because he was a homosexual who was too proud to have anal sex? What transcendence are you trying achieve to get to where ever it is you want to go?


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Re: I have sex with older women, married women, widows and divorcees [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #26504664 - 02/26/20 10:56 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Since he can't answer, it's pretty much proof enough that he doesn't actually live by his words. Hes probably still  prone to uncontrollable boners and hornyness and emotional arousal at the sight of a compatible sexual partner. He will speak and preach, but only for entertainment. He doesn't actually practice any of that




Not really I just have better things to do than check this forum.

As for why, well sex has historically been shown to be a hinderance to us when outside of reproduction (even then it is a hinderance with unwanted pregnancies). Where I am going is trying to get people to see the long term damage such practices can do. The defense of sex thinks of only the short term pleasure.


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Re: I have sex with older women, married women, widows and divorcees [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26504683 - 02/26/20 11:15 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

So your ultimate goal is to be a "have no sex unless it's to procreate" guru type person? Is it just in here as a social experiment for your own pleasure? Are you writing a thesis? Writing a book/novel/series? Making a TV show? Is this an art project? Are you in film? What is sex hindering you from? What potential do you want us to achieve by not having sex unless it's for kids?


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Re: I have sex with older women, married women, widows and divorcees [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26504741 - 02/26/20 11:52 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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So your ultimate goal is to be a "have no sex unless it's to procreate" guru type person? Is it just in here as a social experiment for your own pleasure? Are you writing a thesis? Writing a book/novel/series? Making a TV show? Is this an art project? Are you in film? What is sex hindering you from? What potential do you want us to achieve by not having sex unless it's for kids?



It’s to be free from the craving and influence that sex has over us. To see it for what it is rather than what we make it out to be


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Re: I have sex with older women, married women, widows and divorcees [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26504777 - 02/26/20 12:15 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I highly doubt that you could resist a boner or arousal when a sexy ass appears before you.


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Re: I have sex with older women, married women, widows and divorcees [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #26504780 - 02/26/20 12:19 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

If I go a few days without busting a nut, sex is all I could think about. Meanwhile, the 10-20min immediately after sex I feel a sort of serene clarity of mind.

Abstinence seems like a good way to think about sex non-stop.
The only way to stop sex from clouding your mind is, quite literally, cutting your cock&balls off.


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Re: I have sex with older women, married women, widows and divorcees [Re: Thanatos10] * 1
    #26504801 - 02/26/20 12:31 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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I’m able to put my personal feelings aside to give advice, my mental state and current problems don’t cloud my judgment.



:rofldrunk:


you know, feldman does have a point about diversity.
I'll do my best not to judge how you live cause maybe you found a way that really works for you,
but please try not to tell everyone you know what's best for humanity.


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Re: I have sex with older women, married women, widows and divorcees [Re: feldman114]
    #26504805 - 02/26/20 12:33 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

If I'm really depressed for some reason I can go weeks without feeling sexual arousal or anything and it feels unhealthy like I gotta get my libido back somehow so I can flush my pipes.

Thanatos might be predisposing himself to prostate cancer


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Re: I have sex with older women, married women, widows and divorcees [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #26504826 - 02/26/20 12:49 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: I have sex with older women, married women, widows and divorcees [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26504833 - 02/26/20 12:56 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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So your ultimate goal is to be a "have no sex unless it's to procreate" guru type person? Is it just in here as a social experiment for your own pleasure? Are you writing a thesis? Writing a book/novel/series? Making a TV show? Is this an art project? Are you in film? What is sex hindering you from? What potential do you want us to achieve by not having sex unless it's for kids?



It’s to be free from the craving and influence that sex has over us. To see it for what it is rather than what we make it out to be




Would you care to explain in detail YOUR perception of what it is and also please elaborate in detail on what "we make it out to be"? We are mammalian, we innately want to have sex/procreate. Some have the "desire" more than others. It's quite simple really. If you feel like you have to do this for personal reasons, rock on! It Isn't "what's best for humanity" though IMHE.


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