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Jealousy, is it love or hate?
    #26504530 - 02/26/20 08:52 AM (5 months, 3 days ago)

So my neighbor (he has a crush on her and she's not interested,) made a scene, cussing out out my other neighbor, calling her a "whore" and what not Because she was caught going to the store to with the maintenence man from my apartments to get food, but what is Jealousy? is it not hate? Certainly if I'm dating a girl and I'm going to be with her i'm gonna have confidence in her, otherwise what's the point of being in a relationship? i'm single now and I don't want to go through any of that jealousy shit, not her jealous over me or vice versa, i'm hoping some of you people who've been in a relationship can tell what this emotion is, surely jealousy is of the mind and not of the heart, it is hate, and is not love.


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Re: Jealousy, is it love or hate? [Re: saintdextro] * 1
    #26504605 - 02/26/20 10:08 AM (5 months, 3 days ago)

IF* we treat each other as if we are free to come and go as we choose then jealousy is selfishness.

IF we desire a contract for the purpose of relationships and raising children and we get angry and seek due compliance when someone breaks the contract then that anger is a selfishness.

I'm in the habit of writing little poems composed of 8 lines of 8 syllables ending in 8 randomly chosen words and the latest one contained the idea of being mindful of the moments that could turn around and bite us:

Peaches and cream, examining
Being in the moment of when
Thankful for the life determined
And mindful of the moments by
The glass only 1/2 full ending
And the subsequent lives borne in
A nefarious production
Ending in this infernal loop


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Re: Jealousy, is it love or hate? [Re: saintdextro] * 2
    #26504728 - 02/26/20 11:42 AM (5 months, 3 days ago)

I agree with Buster that jealousy is selfishness. It is being concerned with my needs, above everyone else's. But as to whether it's love or hate...I would say it's more fear than anything else. Fear of not having something, fear of loss. It might express itself as hate, but underneath it's fear, like most things, which stems from the mistaken belief that I am in a state of lack and need something outside of myself in order to be happy. It's about needing to receive.

Love, true love, on the other hand is selfless. It can never be jealous, because love is a state of pure giving. It has no need of receiving anything from anyone, and is happy just to endlessly give, without thought or need of what it gets in return.


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Re: Jealousy, is it love or hate? [Re: PocketLady] * 2
    #26504735 - 02/26/20 11:46 AM (5 months, 3 days ago)

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Re: Jealousy, is it love or hate? [Re: PocketLady] * 1
    #26504932 - 02/26/20 02:05 PM (5 months, 3 days ago)

I can't seem to wrap my mind around the concept that jealousy is fear. Jealousy is anger. For example I think we would expect a jealous God to display anger.

Argumentatively we could say that the selfishness of the majority is unselfish because it seeks to protect minorities and the ecosystem, but in the final analysis I think every action of an ego based organism can be traced to selfishness.


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Re: Jealousy, is it love or hate? [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26505155 - 02/26/20 04:33 PM (5 months, 3 days ago)

Sure, if I am jealous, I might display anger, but I'm not sure that is the root cause. I think the key is in looking at what exactly the anger is trying to express. Why am I angry? If there's a reason why I am angry, then anger is not the root cause, but just an expression. In this situation, I am angry because I am afraid I might lose my partner to another person. The ego feels threatened, and that is fear. If I was totally confident that my partner and I had a secure relationship, that they would never ever leave me or hurt me in any way, would I still feel the same level of jealousy when they spent time with someone of the opposite sex?

I agree that the root of ego is based in selfishness. Fear itself stems from the fact that we do not feel complete as we are. We constantly feel like we are lacking something, and that sense of lack means we need to go out and seek things in the world to try and fill that hole. Fear of this scarcity causes the awareness to turn and look at 'me' and 'my' needs, the essence of selfishness, because 'I' am scared of the lack I feel when 'I' lose/don't get something I want/need. The ego has a deep need to control external events, basically because of fear and this sense of lack, and often that expresses itself as anger when things do not go our way. Whether fear is totally conscious or not is another matter.


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Re: Jealousy, is it love or hate? [Re: PocketLady]
    #26505167 - 02/26/20 04:35 PM (5 months, 3 days ago)

Its childish, she'd probably fuck em both if they were cool.


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Re: Jealousy, is it love or hate? [Re: PocketLady]
    #26505260 - 02/26/20 05:40 PM (5 months, 3 days ago)

They all run together the more I think about it, fear-pride-jealousy-selfishness-anger. Maybe they all constitute 'hate' because they exclude, and maybe 'love' has to be big enough to include instances of hate.


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Re: Jealousy, is it love or hate? [Re: Buster_Brown] * 1
    #26505288 - 02/26/20 05:53 PM (5 months, 3 days ago)

I'm sure if Icelander were still around he would tell us all it's death anxiety :lol: But it does seem like all of those things are basically the [apparent] absence of love. I think you are right about the selfishness thing. It's having the lens focussed towards me and my needs. I've noticed that when I am focussed outwards toward love and giving to others instead, fear/anger/pride/jealousy and all of these things just simply cannot exist at all in that place.


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Re: Jealousy, is it love or hate? [Re: PocketLady]
    #26505337 - 02/26/20 06:20 PM (5 months, 3 days ago)

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..when I am focussed outwards toward love and giving to others instead, fear/anger/pride/jealousy and all of these things just simply cannot exist at all in that place.




How do you feel about interfering with destiny, with another's life's plan? For example Angel #64 lists the defying or countering of destiny as a distortion.
The act of caring for another's welfare could incur karmic debt.
It's one thing to talk about it but taking up arms against a sea of troubles may be unproductive in the quest for solace (I blocked so many numbers on my phone in the past weeks)


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Re: Jealousy, is it love or hate? [Re: PocketLady]
    #26505340 - 02/26/20 06:23 PM (5 months, 3 days ago)

So is Jealousy wrong on all occasions? it was mentionend of the biblical description of a "jealous God", could this come out of a sense of wisdom and not from a sense of fear? or what if your partner is missing with someone else, is the only way to go without jealousy to not care? I like the idea of an exclusiveness relationship, but I don't like jealousy, I want to avoid that.


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Re: Jealousy, is it love or hate? [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26505357 - 02/26/20 06:40 PM (5 months, 3 days ago)

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How do you feel about interfering with destiny, with another's life's plan? For example Angel #64 lists the defying or countering of destiny as a distortion.
The act of caring for another's welfare could incur karmic debt.
It's one thing to talk about it but taking up arms against a sea of troubles may be unproductive in the quest for solace (I blocked so many numbers on my phone in the past weeks)




The way I see it is that it's not about taking any outward action towards others necessarily, although I think there are a few actions which can probably be taken without too much fear of terrible karmic repercussions. Mainly it's about the intention I have towards them, and what is in my heart. I can have concern and a wish for well-being for another person without getting involved or interfering in their life. I can care about someone, and love them without ever even speaking to them. Staying in that space of outward compassion prevents the ego from putting the focus on itself in my experience, and makes for a much more joyful life. There is simply no room for my own problems in that space.


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Re: Jealousy, is it love or hate? [Re: saintdextro] * 1
    #26505525 - 02/26/20 08:49 PM (5 months, 3 days ago)

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So is Jealousy wrong on all occasions? it was mentionend of the biblical description of a "jealous God", could this come out of a sense of wisdom and not from a sense of fear? or what if your partner is missing with someone else, is the only way to go without jealousy to not care? I like the idea of an exclusiveness relationship, but I don't like jealousy, I want to avoid that.




Personally I don't think there's any such thing as wrong or right. There's only things that will bring you closer to God, and things which move you further away imho. Service to self or service to others. I think generally our idea of love is very skewed by ego. The ego makes love possessive, and about what I receive from the other person. But unconditional love is about what I give the other person. So, if the ego weren't involved, and my partner ran off with someone else, unconditional love would say, 'Go do whatever you have to in order to be happy. I want you to be happy and if that's without me and with someone else instead, then so be it.'

It's not about not caring, it's that I care about the other person's happiness, instead of being solely focused on my own happiness. But of course, generally we can't come at it from that perspective, and we end up hurt and angry and devastated when the other person runs off with someone else, because the ego believes it needs that other person to be happy, that they fulfill them in some way. It's hard though, because unless you are an Enlightened master, at this point we all still have an ego that controls us to some extent. So, I think it's more about the aspiration to try and be selfless, to try and focus on making other people's happiness important, rather than expecting to be that kind of selfless right now, at least that's where I am putting my focus. Perhaps at some point, there's a space where I am totally inwardly fulfilled and it's just easy for me to put other people first, because I just don't need anything anymore :sun:


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Re: Jealousy, is it love or hate? [Re: PocketLady] * 1
    #26505774 - 02/27/20 01:17 AM (5 months, 3 days ago)

Allowing for a 'Higher Authority', be it a machination of reason and logic or an appointed guardian, and that tastes can vary between individuals, it can be argued that sacrificing one's own future to protect a microcosm of perceived well-being is excusable.

By that reasoning we might expect the forces that police the world by various means of coercion to be pardoned of their karmic consequence.

Be that as it may. Personally I think that if somebody wishes to come and go as they choose then they have to return the favor and be mindful of the actions they use to control reality...Granted we all need forgiveness for our peccadillos.


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Re: Jealousy, is it love or hate? [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26506820 - 02/27/20 04:28 PM (5 months, 2 days ago)

Forgive my thickheadedness, but can you say this another way? I'm not sure I completely understand what you are getting at.


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Re: Jealousy, is it love or hate? [Re: PocketLady] * 2
    #26507040 - 02/27/20 06:38 PM (5 months, 2 days ago)

It's taken for granted, I think, that laying down one's life so that others may live is a virtual garuntee of sanctification.

"John 15:13 KJV:
Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends."

And perhaps that holds true in some gated communities.


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Re: Jealousy, is it love or hate? [Re: saintdextro] * 1
    #26507483 - 02/28/20 12:27 AM (5 months, 2 days ago)



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Re: Jealousy, is it love or hate? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #26507498 - 02/28/20 12:40 AM (5 months, 2 days ago)

it's selfishness


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Re: Jealousy, is it love or hate? [Re: mr. whothehell] * 1
    #26511779 - 03/01/20 05:53 PM (4 months, 30 days ago)

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it's selfishness




What...is selfishness?


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Re: Jealousy, is it love or hate? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #26511878 - 03/01/20 07:25 PM (4 months, 30 days ago)

LOL



"Judge not lest you be judged"

By what evidence do we judge the author in the image to be unselfish?


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Re: Jealousy, is it love or hate? [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26512009 - 03/01/20 09:23 PM (4 months, 30 days ago)

I dare say part A: "Our duties are the upholding of the other's rights, including rights of creatures not human, and even those of unborn generations. This is fairness."...is a specious argument if his consideration does not extend to fleas, intestinal worms and body lice.

Part B: "It's the right to redress when rights are stepped on, and the duty to submit to corrective measures when found to be stepping on others."...then portrays a sadistic overlay that may resort to supportive, specious arguments in an attempt to dominate.

The author assured me via email that he does not need to defend his position
because the speciousness of his argument is not evident.


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Re: Jealousy, is it love or hate? [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26788577 - 06/28/20 12:24 AM (1 month, 5 days ago)

I've been reading this krishnamurti books and talks and thought this was a good answer to my question, it seem's that to possissive of someone, to have complete certainty of ownership of your lover, causes jealousy, where as to not have ownership over your lover will give you freedom to just move on like water under the bridge rather than the pain, hate and envy you could feel in your relationship if your lover gets close, heavyly or lightly to someone else, attachment is the problem, as is certainty of ownership,,,but just read this essay and see if it helps to understand jealousy:                               
                         
                                                                  Commentaries on Living Series I Chapter 56 'Possessiveness'.   
                                               
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HA HAD BROUGHT along his wife, for he said that it was their mutual problem. She had bright eyes and was small, sprightly, and rather disturbed. They were simple, friendly people; he spoke English fairly well, and she could just manage to understand it and ask simple questions. When it got a little difficult, she would turn to her husband and he would explain in their own language. He said that they had been married for over twenty-five years, and had several children; and that their problem was not the children, but the struggle between themselves. He explained that he had a job which gave him a modest income, and went on to say how difficult it was to live peacefully in this world, especially when you are married; he wasn't grumbling, he added, but there it was. He had been everything that a husband should be, at least he hoped so, but it was not always easy.

It was difficult for them to come to the point, and they talked for some time about various things: the education of their children, the marriage of their daughters, the waste of money on ceremonies, a recent death in the family, and so on. They felt at ease and unhurried, for it was good to talk to someone who would listen and who perhaps might understand.

Who cares to listen to the troubles of another? We have so many problems of our own that we have no time for those of others. To make another listen you have to pay either in coin, in prayer, or in belief. The professional will listen, it is his job, but in that there is no lasting release. We want to unburden ourselves freely, spontaneously, without any regrets afterwards. The purification of confusion does not depend on the one who listens, but on him who desires to open his heart. To open one's heart is important, and it will find someone, a beggar perhaps, to whom it can pour itself out. Introspective talk can never open the heart; it is enclosing, depressing and utterly useless. To be open is to listen, not only to yourself, but to every influence, to every movement about you. It may or may not be possible to do something tangibly about what you hear, but the very fact of being open brings about its own action. Such hearing purifies your own heart, cleansing it of the things of the mind. Hearing with the mind is gossip, and in it there is no release either for you or for the other; it is merely a continuation of pain, which is stupidity.

Unhurriedly they were coming to the point.

"We have come to talk about our problem. We are jealous - I am not but she is. Though she used not to be as openly jealous as she is now, there has always been a whisper of it. I don't think I have ever given her any reason to be jealous, but she finds a reason."

Do you think there is any reason to be jealous? Is there a cause for jealousy? And will jealousy disappear when the cause is known? Have you not noticed that even when you know the cause, jealousy continues? Do not let us look for the reason, but let us understand jealousy itself. As you say, one might pick up almost anything to be envious about; envy is the thing to understand, and not what it is about.

"Jealousy has been with me for a long time. I didn't know my husband very well when we married, and you know how it all happens; jealousy gradually crept in, like smoke in the kitchen."

Jealousy is one of the ways of holding the man or the woman, is it not? The more we are jealous, the greater the feeling of possession. To possess something makes us happy; to call something, even a dog, exclusively our own makes us feel warm and comfortable. To be exclusive in our possession gives assurance and certainty to ourselves. To own something makes us important; it is this importance we cling to. To think that we own, not a pencil or a house, but a human being, makes us feel strong and strangely content. Envy is not because of the other, but because of the worth, the importance of ourselves.

"But I am not important, I am nobody; my husband is all that I have. Even my children don't count." We all have only one thing to which we cling, though it takes different forms. You cling to your husband, others to their children, and yet others to some belief; but the intention is the same. Without the object to which we cling we feel so hopelessly lost, do we not? We are afraid to feel all alone. This fear is jealousy, hate, pain. There is not much difference between envy and hate.

"But we love each other."

Then how can you be jealous? We do not love, and that is the unfortunate part of it. You are using your husband, as he is using you, to be happy, to have a companion, not to feel alone; you may not possess much, but at least you have someone to be with. This mutual need and use we call love.

"But this is dreadful."

It is not dreadful, only we never look at it. We call it dreadful, give it a name and quickly look away - which is what you are doing.

"I know, but I don't want to look. I want to carry on as I am, even though it means being jealous, because I cannot see anything else in life."

If you saw something else you would no longer be jealous of your husband, would you? But you would cling to the other thing as now you are clinging to your husband, so you would be jealous of that too. You want to find a substitute for your husband, and not freedom from jealousy. We are all like that: before we give up one thing, we want to be very sure of another. When you are completely uncertain, then only is there no place for envy. There is envy when there is certainty, when you feel that you have something. Exclusiveness is this feeling of certainty; to own is to be envious. Ownership breeds hatred. We really hate what we possess, which is shown in jealousy. Where there is possession there can never be love; to possess is to destroy love.

"I am beginning to see. I have really never loved my husband, have I? I am beginning to understand."

And she wept.






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Re: Jealousy, is it love or hate? [Re: saintdextro]
    #26788592 - 06/28/20 12:42 AM (1 month, 5 days ago)

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Commentaries on Living Series I Chapter 52 'Jealousy'.                                                                   
THE SUN WAS bright on the white wall 
Opposite, and its glare made the faces obscure. A little O, without the prompting of the mother, came and sat close by, wide-eyed and wondering what it was all about. She was freshly washed and clothed and had some flowers in her hair. She was keenly observing everything, as children do, without recording too much. Her eyes were sparkling, and she did not quite know what to do, whether to cry, to laugh or to jump; instead, she took my hand and looked at it with absorbing interest. Presently she forgot all those people in the room, relaxed and went to sleep with her head in my lap. Her head was of good shape and well balanced; she was spotlessly clean. Her future was as confused and as miserable as that of the others in the room. Her conflict and sorrow were as inevitable as that sun on the wall; for to be free of pain and misery needs supreme intelligence, and her education and the influences about her would see to it that she was denied this intelligence. Love is so rare in this world, that flame without smoke; the smoke is overpowering, all-suffocating, bringing anguish and tears. Through the smoke, the flame is rarely seen; and when the smoke becomes all-important, the flame dies. Without that flame of love, life has no meaning, it becomes dull and weary; but the flame cannot be in the darkening smoke. The two cannot exist together; the smoke must cease for the clear flame to be. The flame is not a rival of the smoke; it has no rival. The smoke is not the flame, it cannot contain the flame; nor does the smoke indicate the presence of the flame, for the flame is free of smoke.

"Cannot love and hate exist together? Is not jealousy an indication of love? We hold hands, and then the next minute scold; we say hard things, but soon embrace. We quarrel, then kiss and are reconciled. Is not all this love? The very expression of jealousy is an indication of love; they seem to go together, like light and darkness. The swift anger and the caress - are these not the fullness of love? The river is both turbulent and calm; it flows through shadow and sunlight, and therein lies the beauty of the river."

What is it that we call love? It is this whole field of jealousy, of lust, of harsh words, of caress, of holding hands, of quarrelling and making up. These are the facts in this field of so-called love. Anger and caress are everyday facts in this field, are they not? And we try to establish a relationship between the various facts, or we compare one fact with another. We use one fact to condemn or justify another within this same field, or we try to establish a relationship between a fact within the field and something outside of it. We do not take each fact separately, but try to find an interrelationship between them. Why do we do this? We can understand a fact only when we do not use another fact in the same field as a medium of understanding, which merely creates conflict and confusion. But why do we compare the various facts in the same field? Why do we carry over the significance of one fact to offset or to explain another?

"I am beginning to grasp what you mean. But why do we do this?"

Do we understand a fact through the screen of idea, through the screen of memory? Do I understand jealousy because I have held your hand? The holding of the hand is a fact, as jealousy is a fact; but do I understand the process of jealousy because I have a remembrance of holding your hand? Is memory an aid to understanding? Memory compares, modifies, condemns, justifies, or identifies; but it cannot bring understanding. We approach the facts in the field of so-called love with idea, with conclusion. We do not take the fact of jealousy as it is and silently observe it, but we want to twist the fact according to the pattern, to the conclusion; and we approach it in this way because we really do not wish to understand the fact of jealousy. The sensations of jealousy are as stimulating as a caress; but we want stimulation without the pain and discomfort that invariably go with it. So there is conflict, confusion and antagonism within this field which we call love. But is it love? Is love an idea, a sensation, a stimulation? Is love jealousy? "Is not reality held in illusion? Does not darkness encompass or hide light? Is not God held in bondage?"

These are mere ideas, opinions, and so they have no validity. Such ideas only breed enmity, they do not cover or hold reality. Where there is light, darkness is not. Darkness cannot conceal light; if it does, there is no light. Where jealousy is, love is not. Idea cannot cover love. To commune, there must be relationship. Love is not related to idea, and so idea cannot commune with love. Love is a flame without smoke.




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-Bhagavad Gita, 5.24
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Re: Jealousy, is it love or hate? [Re: saintdextro]
    #26788922 - 06/28/20 05:29 AM (1 month, 5 days ago)

Love is: If you are happier with that other person, then go, because I want the best for you.


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Re: Jealousy, is it love or hate? [Re: Asante]
    #26789106 - 06/28/20 07:59 AM (1 month, 4 days ago)

Quote:

Asante said:
Love is: If you are happier with that other person, then go, because I want the best for you.



                                                  True dat!


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That man becomes one with God
And vanishes into God's bliss."

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Re: Jealousy, is it love or hate? [Re: saintdextro]
    #26789125 - 06/28/20 08:08 AM (1 month, 4 days ago)

Deeper.
Jealousy is insecurity.
Your nagging self doubt will be seemingly justified....I wasn't good enough.

We open ourselves up to when we allow love and praise.
When you have an ally that turns ( even though it is not their battle) we feel scorned.

Jealousy is an internal battle one that is waged before your ever in a union.
It'll destroy a healthy relationship before it's started.

Love yourself.
Come what may.


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Re: Jealousy, is it love or hate? [Re: pineninja]
    #26793137 - 06/29/20 08:14 PM (1 month, 3 days ago)

...On a second thought, in Marriage, what's so wrong about owner the other? Don't they enter a pack, the wife owns the husband and the husband owns the wife, plus that would work out quite nice for the kids.


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That man becomes one with God
And vanishes into God's bliss."

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Re: Jealousy, is it love or hate? [Re: saintdextro]
    #26794777 - 06/30/20 02:57 PM (1 month, 2 days ago)

A mutual agreement for the better of both usually seems to work better, and seem less creepy :lol:

To me anything that would limit my others' free will is not a loving relationship.


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Re: Jealousy, is it love or hate? [Re: Forrester]
    #26827420 - 07/16/20 05:04 PM (17 days, 13 hours ago)

i hope the dude grows out of that ouchies shit  :flowers:


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Re: Jealousy, is it love or hate? [Re: emotionalmugger]
    #26835915 - 07/21/20 11:28 AM (12 days, 18 hours ago)

Its definitely being selfish thats why i dont get Jelous i let my girl sees who wants when she wants to. That is how its should be in relationships i think.if you get Jelous than you have alot to work on .


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