|
audiophoenix
Find Peace


Registered: 08/28/09
Posts: 4,107
Loc: Upstate NY
Last seen: 2 years, 9 months
|
|
I don't recall specifics. I'll ask my uncle about it next time I see him. I remember him being pretty nonchalant about it. I'm pretty sure it was similar to what everyone else was saying.
I though there was some explanation for the phoenix lights though, like some sort of collection of paper lamps or something similar. Maybe I'm wrong or maybe that was the standard rebuttal by skeptics at the time.
I think that one is up there with the most widely observed UFO ever, at least at the time.
--------------------
|
openmind
curious


Registered: 08/03/07
Posts: 13,878
|
|
Quote:
LogicaL Chaos said: The orb thing is definitely confusing. Some UFOs like the one Bob Lazar gives off a glowing light as a side-effect of the anti-gravity waves coming off the UFO.
But its also mentioned in UFOlgy that aliens can turn into orbs and fly around, perhaps with help from a UFO nearby. So two possible explainations are either a UFO craft or an alien in "light-emitting" form.
We have absolutely no proof or evidence at all for anti-gravity technology or "aliens turning into orbs". Those sound like theories & ideas people have made up themselves in regards to what these orbs are, I don't believe anyone actually has any idea and certainly no solid proof or evidence of such.
Like how did one come to the conclusion of..."Those are just aliens turning into orbs and flying around" ....or, "those are just aliens in a light emitting form"...What science was done, what evidence was used, to come to those conclusions? What is that theory based off of?
I've heard those theories as well as lots of other random far out ideas...I don't believe any of them. They all sound like things people just made up, and not actually based of concrete proof & science.
I'm not even saying this phenomena is related to "aliens" or that they're even a "craft" of some sort...I have zero evidence of such.
I don't attach any "meaning" or any "belief" onto what it is I've seen, with my own eyes and in regards to the 100s & 100s of different videos I've seen with footage of various "orbs"...I keep an open mind about it all because there is zero proof or evidence about anything. They're a big mystery as far as I see, I don't believe anything that anyone says about them unless there is solid evidence and real science involved, and I have yet to see it.
But these orbs are certainly a phenomena that exists , what ever they are...I've seen them with my own eyes a few times and have a collection of 100s of videos that I will be making a thread about soon. Some of them have real good footage. I've been meaning to make a thread about them for a long time now.
-OM
.
--------------------
Edited by openmind (02/24/20 04:31 PM)
|
Niffla



Registered: 06/09/08
Posts: 46,783
Loc: Texas
|
Re: Ufo story time [Re: openmind]
#26502048 - 02/24/20 06:12 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
|
|
I'm still not sure I believe that we've actually been visited. I mean unless they figured out ways to travel via worm holes or something -- the distances are just too absurdly vast. And that's even if they figured out how to travel at the speed of light.
But I mean who knows. I'm still pretty fascinated by the claims out there from some who appear to be pretty credible. And the Roswell incident.
--------------------
HAIL OUR NEW OTD KING
|
LogicaL Chaos
Ascension Energy & Alien UFOs




Registered: 05/12/07
Posts: 69,599
Loc: The Inexpressible...
Last seen: 49 minutes, 28 seconds
|
Re: Ufo story time [Re: openmind]
#26502764 - 02/25/20 08:33 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
|
|
Yes, they are theories at the moment. They are based on eye-witness reports of contactees and abductees seeing figures/orbs/aliens become ghost-like or orb-like in front of them.
Of course alien abduction does not have a lot of physical evidence to go back on, which is why its still considered a conspiracy theory and not hard science. Due to the paranormal nature of ETs/UFOs, its hard to prove anything with physical evidence since many of the experiences people describe are non-physical (example: Being abducted by a beam of light, thru a wall of their house, missing time after seeing a UFO at a short distance).
Probably the best case for eye-witness "proof" is the Travis Walton case where the friends of Travis Walton saw Travis being abducted and all passed a lie detector test later when they went to police about what had happen (the police thought they murdered Travis but he called one of his friends from a pay phone a few days later). More on the Travis Walton case: http://www.travis-walton.co
Now back to UFOs.
Science isnt quite advanced enough to explain whats happening here but the AATIP program has narrowed down several aspects of the UFO situation that are important to note:
|
audiophoenix
Find Peace


Registered: 08/28/09
Posts: 4,107
Loc: Upstate NY
Last seen: 2 years, 9 months
|
Re: Ufo story time [Re: Niffla]
#26502857 - 02/25/20 09:59 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Niffla said: I'm still not sure I believe that we've actually been visited. I mean unless they figured out ways to travel via worm holes or something -- the distances are just too absurdly vast. And that's even if they figured out how to travel at the speed of light.
But I mean who knows. I'm still pretty fascinated by the claims out there from some who appear to be pretty credible. And the Roswell incident.
I feel like we are not even close to knowing what is actually possible with regards to physics. We have only just begun to unlock secrets of particle physics and I find it plausible that the theoretical speed limits are probably going to end up being irrelevant. I think given enough time we will figure out a way to travers spacetime through wormholes or some other method.
It might take some monumental civilization that could harness unfathomable energy in black holes or something. But I feel like it's arrogant to claim that it's just not possible when there's so much we've learned just in the last couple decades.
--------------------
|
spirit_shadow
Feature not a bug



Registered: 08/15/11
Posts: 25,996
Last seen: 32 minutes, 14 seconds
|
|
My brother and I saw a saucer type craft VERY close to us maybe 30 yards. It was apinning slow and moving very slow. We were dumbfounded. We look back at it and this thing just star trek's into space with light trail and everything. Didnt make a single noise....
-------------------- Those content with the least have the most.....(this account is automated, all posts related to illegal activities or advice thereof are strictly from numerous online sites and are for informational purposes only)- Circa 2011 Ban lotto
Edited by spirit_shadow (02/25/20 11:08 AM)
|
Sofaking420



Registered: 02/09/18
Posts: 1,141
Loc: Myco mountain
Last seen: 5 hours, 18 minutes
|
|
About 8 years ago a friend and i were playing xbox late into the night.
The xbox or tv started acting up and glitching out , then all the lights in my house flickered and dimmed and i lost power. The power came back on quickly but was very dim and flickered alot before loosing power again.
Now where i live for 10+years ive never lost power or had any issues. Even when the local town has power outages ive been on of the few places with power.
So we go outside to smoke a few ciggerets and grab a few beers amd a joint. i notice a strange green "orb" like fog gently illuminating light, maybe 30 or 40 around , slightly above the tree tops.
We both saw it at the same time and shrugged it off, opened our beers and stood outside talking shit.
Within a few hits off a ciggerette i notice all the hairs on my body are standing up at end. My friend says something first, that he feels static on the air.
This cloud or fog or whatever started moving down towards us and towards my long ass drive way behind us. As it moved i noticed a high pitch sound sorta like wifi or something. And we both watched it "dissolve " about 50 feet behind us.
We both got creeped out , ran inside to grab our shotguns to find the lights on. Xbox and tv on and the xbox paused where we left off when the power shut off the first time. Now im really creeped out.
Now i live in the middle of the woods with no neighbors within 1/4-1/2 mile through the forest in a stright line.
We both searched my house and surrounding forest for people or anything weird but found nothing.
|
Gypsy Boy
Redeemer



Registered: 03/17/17
Posts: 4,501
Loc: Deep in the discoteka
Last seen: 3 months, 13 days
|
|
Cool stoner story
--------------------
|
theRealrollforever
I DID-DENT



Registered: 08/31/13
Posts: 12,846
Loc: Bada-Bing!
Last seen: 2 hours, 21 minutes
|
Re: Ufo story time [Re: Gypsy Boy] 1
#26503189 - 02/25/20 01:18 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
|
|
I saw a ufo near dover Air Force base. It was silent and moved faster than the light it was flashing. Absolutely believe in aliens of some sort
--------------------
sunshine said: The order has to be secret and no one is sure.
Edited by theRealrollforever (02/25/20 01:18 PM)
|
RobZombie68
The Shaman's Apprentice


Registered: 06/22/14
Posts: 824
Loc: Palookaville, US
Last seen: 6 days, 1 hour
|
|
My wife and I were walking through a parking lot about 9pm to see a movie, I looked over and this pinpoint of white light was shining down a green light I can best describe it looked like a Christmas tree, green in a triangle formation, massive, it took up about 1/4 of my field of vision. It had to be many miles away, this was in the San Fran bay area, so it was out over the ocean to the west. As we watched for a few minutes stationary, it shot a straight white light straight up as far as the eye could see.
We carried on as our movie was about to start. On the local news the next day the said it was a misfired missile test. Bullshit, it was stationary for the 5 minutes we watched it.
|
PumpJackTeX
livin life



Registered: 05/26/08
Posts: 3,951
Loc: California
Last seen: 11 months, 17 days
|
|
Assholes flying around our planet tranversing the universe and wont let us ride along.
-------------------- Life. 2008 Ascension Energy | UFOs | 2021
|
Niffla



Registered: 06/09/08
Posts: 46,783
Loc: Texas
|
|
Quote:
audiophoenix said: But I feel like it's arrogant to claim that it's just not possible when there's so much we've learned just in the last couple decades.
I never said it wasn't possible. I just tend to doubt it I guess. That we've been reached. It's just my opinion. It is a massive universe and I absolutely believe there's almost assuredly advanced life out there. I just lean towards us not being found. And if life is so abundant out there, like some of us believe, why would they need to go out of their way to see us? Are we really that special? I think the thought that, if anything, that advanced alien civilizations are so captivated and fascinated by little ole earth that they just HAVE TO drop by 5 thousand light years out of the way to see us is arrogant.
For all we know we're the Iowa of the universe (with all due respect, I still love you Iowa)
--------------------
HAIL OUR NEW OTD KING
|
Niffla



Registered: 06/09/08
Posts: 46,783
Loc: Texas
|
Re: Ufo story time [Re: Niffla] 1
#26503585 - 02/25/20 05:04 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
|
|
That said though I would love it if we were visited, and that Roswell & alien autopsies being done at Area 51 was real. Because like Fox Mulder I want to believe

--------------------
HAIL OUR NEW OTD KING
|
LogicaL Chaos
Ascension Energy & Alien UFOs




Registered: 05/12/07
Posts: 69,599
Loc: The Inexpressible...
Last seen: 49 minutes, 28 seconds
|
|
Damn thats wild man! That experience classifies as a Close Encounter of the 2nd Kind because of the UFOs effect on your electricity in your house 
Did u experience any "missing time" by chance?
Ever read about the mysterious green orbs that were attacking military facilities in the late 1940's?
https://www.history.com/news/ufos-green-fireballs-nuclear-facilities-new-mexico
Dont worry Niffla, the Truth is coming soon. According to my Pleiadian Prophecy book, physical proof is coming next year.
The question is: Will You Be Ready?
-------------------- "What you must understand is that your physical dimension affects everyone in the higher dimensions as well. All things are interconnected. All things are One. Therefore, if one dimension is broken or out of balance, then all other dimensions will experience repercussions." - Pleiadian Prophecy 2020 The New Golden Age by James Carwin PROJECT BLUE BOOK ANALYSIS! (312 pages!) | Psychedelics & UFOs | Ready to Contact UFOs? | The Source on Mushrooms | Trippy Gematrix | Dj TeknoLogical | Fentanyl Test Kits R.I.P. Big Worm || The Start of the Ascension Process was 2020. Welcome to the Next Great Era of Earth 🌎🌍🌏
  Oregon Eclipse Festival 2017 :: Aug 19th - 21st :: Pure Paradise   Very Effective LSA Extraction Tek | đź’§ Advanced Cold Water LSA Extraction Method đź’§ |  Mescajuana - Mescaline with Marijuana | DMT Dab Bongs | UFO Technology! Shpongle
     
|
audiophoenix
Find Peace


Registered: 08/28/09
Posts: 4,107
Loc: Upstate NY
Last seen: 2 years, 9 months
|
Re: Ufo story time [Re: Niffla] 4
#26503638 - 02/25/20 05:20 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Niffla said:
Quote:
audiophoenix said: But I feel like it's arrogant to claim that it's just not possible when there's so much we've learned just in the last couple decades.
I never said it wasn't possible. I just tend to doubt it I guess. That we've been reached. It's just my opinion. It is a massive universe and I absolutely believe there's almost assuredly advanced life out there. I just lean towards us not being found. And if life is so abundant out there, like some of us believe, why would they need to go out of their way to see us? Are we really that special? I think the thought that, if anything, that advanced alien civilizations are so captivated and fascinated by little ole earth that they just HAVE TO drop by 5 thousand light years out of the way to see us is arrogant.
For all we know we're the Iowa of the universe (with all due respect, I still love you Iowa)
I get what you're saying, and I wasn't directing the arrogant comment at you. Just more at people who use that argument to so assuredly to discount the possibility.
I also don't buy the whole we aren't interesting thing. We are interested in all these things that are seemingly insignificant to us, like ant colonies and deep ocean life. I don't see how it would be any different if we were a interstellar explorers. I think there's a driving force guiding life to explore and learn. It seems to be a well established property of evolution. I'm not saying it's a given that et would be chomping at the bit to meet a real life human but I Don't see any reason to discount the possibility of them stopping by. Sure life might be common in the universe, but how common is intelligent life? How often are primitive civilizations at the type of threshold we are entering? I can't imagine it's frequent enough to not be bothered at all.
The one thing that does cross my thoughts is what if before civilizations get to interstellar travel, they advance to a point that they cross dimensions. Perhaps there's some barrier that all civilizations cross that unlocks a whole new set of priorities and interstellar travel is the equivalent of board games after you just got an xbox for Christmas
--------------------
|
Amanita86
OTD Keymaster


Registered: 09/26/12
Posts: 89,464
Loc: hades
|
|
Quote:
Niffla said:
Quote:
audiophoenix said: But I feel like it's arrogant to claim that it's just not possible when there's so much we've learned just in the last couple decades.
I never said it wasn't possible. I just tend to doubt it I guess. That we've been reached. It's just my opinion. It is a massive universe and I absolutely believe there's almost assuredly advanced life out there. I just lean towards us not being found. And if life is so abundant out there, like some of us believe, why would they need to go out of their way to see us? Are we really that special? I think the thought that, if anything, that advanced alien civilizations are so captivated and fascinated by little ole earth that they just HAVE TO drop by 5 thousand light years out of the way to see us is arrogant.
For all we know we're the Iowa of the universe (with all due respect, I still love
Seems a little dismissive. If we’re honest with ourselves we have no idea what all is taking place on earth. Can only speculate on any agenda/intention of a space being. The potential capabilities of this earth and ourselves.
We have people here smoking bark residue conversing with intelligent beings.. Human minds alone are possibly some sort of portal, and that’s just slightly joking around.
The grand scheme of things is so big that I doubt anyone on this earth has the full grasp of it. Life has this tricky feature to where it makes shit you perceive seem normal, but it’s just a trick. There is nothing normal going on, only people under some sort of sedating spell.
Just as reasonable as them not having reason to be here is the possibility they have critical reasons to be here.
--------------------
Orange clock, pencil "They threw me off the hay truck about noon..."
*Mark 15:34  Gam zeh ya’avor...
|
Niffla



Registered: 06/09/08
Posts: 46,783
Loc: Texas
|
|
Quote:
audiophoenix said:
I also don't buy the whole we aren't interesting thing. We are interested in all these things that are seemingly insignificant to us, like ant colonies and deep ocean life. I don't see how it would be any different if we were a interstellar explorers. I think there's a driving force guiding life to explore and learn. It seems to be a well established property of evolution. I'm not saying it's a given that et would be chomping at the bit to meet a real life human but I Don't see any reason to discount the possibility of them stopping by. Sure life might be common in the universe, but how common is intelligent life? How often are primitive civilizations at the type of threshold we are entering? I can't imagine it's frequent enough to not be bothered at all.
True, true.
--------------------
HAIL OUR NEW OTD KING
|
Niffla



Registered: 06/09/08
Posts: 46,783
Loc: Texas
|
Re: Ufo story time [Re: Amanita86] 1
#26503767 - 02/25/20 06:20 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Amanita86 said:
Seems a little dismissive. If we’re honest with ourselves we have no idea what all is taking place on earth. Can only speculate on any agenda/intention of a space being. The potential capabilities of this earth and ourselves.
We have people here smoking bark residue conversing with intelligent beings.. Human minds alone are possibly some sort of portal, and that’s just slightly joking around.
The grand scheme of things is so big that I doubt anyone on this earth has the full grasp of it. Life has this tricky feature to where it makes shit you perceive seem normal, but it’s just a trick. There is nothing normal going on, only people under some sort of sedating spell.
Just as reasonable as them not having reason to be here is the possibility they have critical reasons to be here.
It just dawned on me how really stupid my claim just earlier about us possibly being too boring or life being too abundant for us to be worth going out of the way for, when in another thread on the front page I'm suggesting trips to one of Jupiter's moons to melt our way through 100 km of ice to see if there's anything under there 
Shit if there were nothing but a school of minnows down there that would be some mind blowing shit
--------------------
HAIL OUR NEW OTD KING
|
Sofaking420



Registered: 02/09/18
Posts: 1,141
Loc: Myco mountain
Last seen: 5 hours, 18 minutes
|
|
I have experienced missing time but not from this one expereince......i think?
Ive had a few weird experiences years and years before doing any psychedelics including my above post.
Then 2 years ago tripping balls on my birthday, i spoke to aliens through a portal in the sky but that was a crazy night lol
|
feevers


Registered: 12/28/10
Posts: 8,546
Loc:
|
|
My whole family saw a handful of firey orbs, staying in the same spot in the sky, for a half hour or so on a car drive. I don't remember them disappearing, I think we just got to our hotel and went in. I can't remember if they moved at all, I'd have to ask my family members. Found out when posting in a UFO thread here that we saw them at literally the exact same spot as the Betty/Barney Hill abduction incident, where there's now a plaque commemorating them. I93 N heading into lincoln at like midnight
Wish I had an explanation. The Betty/Barney Hill connection is kinda cool.
|
|