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Ayahuasca brew dosage
    #26503185 - 02/25/20 01:17 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

i recently tried mushrooms and syrian rue it was a very explosive and vivid journey now i would like to do a brew of ayahuasca i would like to start at a very light dose maybe just the threshold dose how much mimosa hostilis would a threshold be to get subtle effects and get a feel for the brew and maybe do some meditation any advice or related stories would be helpful and great to hear :smile:


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Re: Ayahuasca brew dosage [Re: Jamjam1996]
    #26503201 - 02/25/20 01:25 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I made my own ayahuasca and it gave me depersonalization disorder for 2 years. You have to be careful with that stuff! The dosage is far more unpredictable than mushrooms. Mimosa can have anywhere between .3- 2% of dmt so it's more difficult to dose. If you do it start off low!!! Personally I would just use the mushrooms. I would wait and do ayahuasca in a group setting. There's a lot more anxiety with a ayahuasca trip so I would at least find a trip sitter. Having a couple xanax in your pocket is a good idea incase of a bad trip.


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Re: Ayahuasca brew dosage [Re: Shenmue]
    #26503228 - 02/25/20 01:43 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

3 grams of Mimosa, 5 grams tops, 5 grams is what i usually go for, 3 grams is a good stable low dose. Take that 30 minutes to an hour after 3 to 4 grams of the Rue.

Shenmue, i took Rue and Mimosa/Acacia daily/near daily for 4 years, in quite effective and strong dosages, never had any issue with it, though Cannabis started giving more increasingly more negative effects and was never the same again, so if you smoke Cannabis, that's probably what that's about.


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Re: Ayahuasca brew dosage [Re: Sabnock]
    #26503242 - 02/25/20 01:51 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

It's kind of foolish to assume his brain is wired exactly like yours. Some people suffer from bad anxiety and depression. I do think it's stupid to take your first dose of ayahuasca by yourself. It's his life.

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Re: Ayahuasca brew dosage [Re: Shenmue]
    #26503274 - 02/25/20 02:13 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Shenmue said:
It's kind of foolish to assume his brain is wired exactly like yours. Some people suffer from bad anxiety and depression. I do think it's stupid to take your first dose of ayahuasca by yourself. It's his life.

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I didn't say his brain is like mine, i just simply said that i took it pretty regularly and had no issues. You never responded with if you smoked weed though, do/did you? Cannabis is actually more likely, surprisingly, to give people issues compared to Psychedelics. You also have to take into account other substances one may be using, like other Psychedelics (particularly LSD, which seems to be the more likely cause of HPPD for example), or like Amphetamines, or DXM, or what not.

It is his life, if he is well researched and has a clue as to what he's doing he should be fine, just start low and work one's way up. As for taking Aya alone from the get go, i personally see no problem with it. Aya was my first ever Psychedelic, and took it on my own from the get go, again, did just fine, though i did have my parents and brother in the rest of the house so i was never truly alone, but i only ever needed outside reassurance one time and that was the time i took a low dose of Mimosa with Moclobemide, whereas with Rue i've always been able to handle myself, especially since it has some grounding and relaxative properties. Also one can add 3 to 4 grams of Lemon Balm tea to the Aya for a smoother come up, reduced anxiety/panic. I see no reason as to recommend against Aya unless one is very mentally frail, and especially if one doesn't take into account set and setting.


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Re: Ayahuasca brew dosage [Re: Sabnock]
    #26503278 - 02/25/20 02:15 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Alternatively, Psilohuasca is a good thing to stick with if one feels they are prepared enough for oral DMT. But in some ways quite a few people find oral DMT, with as intense as it is, to be easier to handle/tolerate compared to mushrooms, people have seen more mushroom freakouts than oral DMT freakouts, but again, each person is different. Oral DMT is imo a good bit more intense and potentially terrifying, but it's not to be feared, just respected, and learn how to let go/surrender and immerse yourself into the experience. Music and breathwork also very well comes in handy during the come up.


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Re: Ayahuasca brew dosage [Re: Sabnock]
    #26503310 - 02/25/20 02:32 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

yes i have heard allot of people who add weed while on psychedelics tend to have a bad trip i have done a lot of research and i want to start at a very low dose just so i can get a feel for the brew i dont want to go all in and make a big mistake i prefer to do psychedelics alone and in solitude in full control of my set and setting as i know i can ground myself if things become uneasy when i first tried Psilohuasca i did 3 grams of rue and 1.5gram of shrooms and i was totally not prepared for the craziness that brings the visual distortions are crazy and uncomfortable but i grounded myself and let go and it turned into a very euphoric/ relaxing time with great visuals the next few time i did it it has been great the rue really add a different flavor to the experience as a lot of people say more of a jungle vibe and very earthy but can be chaotic now i want to try my hand at ayahuasca for a more deeper trip it just i like go go slowly into things so you recommend 3-5grams of  mimosa hostilis i have found i am a bit more sensitive than the average person so would i feel or experience anything from say 1-2grams of mimosa hostilis and 3 grams of rue and if you can, can you let me know of your typical experiences of the low doses like visuals and physical sensations ? :smile:


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Re: Ayahuasca brew dosage [Re: Jamjam1996]
    #26503795 - 02/25/20 06:35 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah doses of 1 to 2 grams can be fine, 3 grams is better, but for low low dose effects 1 to 2 is fine, i took 2.4 grams of Mimosa powder in capsules on top of 300mgs of Moclobemide back in December, it was just fine, some slight open eyed visual trailing/tracers, a slight bit of HD vision, some relatively noticeable body sensations, definite semi-DMT space, but nothing at all drastic or overly noticeable. So if you wanna try 1 to 2 grams it'll be just fine. 3 grams of Rue is fine, i think, i usually went for 4 grams of Rue, but these days i'm liking 3 grams.


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Re: Ayahuasca brew dosage [Re: Jamjam1996] * 1
    #26504273 - 02/26/20 01:36 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

A lot of people seem to link cannabis with “bad trips”. In my experience, cannabis increases the intensity of the trip; sort of like it kick starts a bunch of psychoactive chemicals into doing their stuff in your brain all at once. I have found occasionally this ramp up in intensity is too unsettling, so I simply stop smoking and wait a few minutes for it to settle back down.

So a couple of things:

1. I wouldn’t necessarily say cannabis causes bad trips; for me a bad trip is not an intense trip, rather an intense trip is “an intense trip”. Two different things.
2. For the reason of trying to judge the ramp up in intensity caused by cannabis, I would be extremely careful trying a cannabis edible while on mushrooms.

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