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First post first grow.
    #26503123 - 02/25/20 12:46 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

So don’t ask me why I didn’t start with something simple.. but I decided to start with a CRS LC and a pre made grain bag.. did my innoc on the 13th, using a seed mat, separated, not directly placed on. Need to keep a healthy temp. This setup is in a 66 qt tub also to help keep temp. Not showing any signs of growth yet, have some condensation but not too much.. my question is 1) does that specific strain take longer than others. 2) is being in the tub limiting a health gas exchange.. patients is key with this and I am being patient.. also away a lot of people don’t use mats, but seems necessary for me at the time..


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Re: First post first grow. [Re: Alias618]
    #26503323 - 02/25/20 02:42 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Gives us pics of the grain bags. Sounds like a gas exchange issue which is common with bags. Don’t ever use premade spawn, I’d sudgest preping some WBS jars next time. Heating pads are a no no. Hard to say what you problem is without pics.


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Re: First post first grow. [Re: Shroomhunts]
    #26503328 - 02/25/20 02:45 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I’d gladly try other methods but this seemed like the most discrete method at the time to get some experience... pix coming


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Re: First post first grow. [Re: Alias618]
    #26503356 - 02/25/20 03:01 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: First post first grow. [Re: Alias618]
    #26503359 - 02/25/20 03:02 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

first pic there is an area I will be watching... next to the seam at the top..


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Re: First post first grow. [Re: Alias618]
    #26503374 - 02/25/20 03:10 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Those patches probably wont give adequate gas exchange not much you can do now.


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Re: First post first grow. [Re: Shroomhunts]
    #26503376 - 02/25/20 03:11 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

So toast? Try again?


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Re: First post first grow. [Re: Alias618]
    #26503389 - 02/25/20 03:16 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Keep em as an experiment if you’d like but I would recommend starting some jars instead of waiting for those bags


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Re: First post first grow. [Re: Shroomhunts]
    #26503397 - 02/25/20 03:18 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

That’s the hard part to do having kids and the time it takes... but I’ll figure it out... thanx again for your help


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Re: First post first grow. [Re: Alias618]
    #26503411 - 02/25/20 03:28 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Order a spore string or liquid culture if you can find a vendor. Buy a bag of bird seed, a pressure cooker, and some jars. If you pinch pennies you could get everything you need for under 50$. The learning experience is the most important part if you want to get serious about cultivating.


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Re: First post first grow. [Re: Shroomhunts]
    #26503420 - 02/25/20 03:33 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Have the liquid culture and have a pressure cooker... so I’ll do more research on this method...


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Re: First post first grow. [Re: Alias618]
    #26503460 - 02/25/20 03:49 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Pennington classic wild bird seed 50lb bag is 10$ at Walmart rinse the dirt off, get the floaters out, soak overnight and dry with strainers and place on towel. Poke holes in the lids of the jars with a screw driver and stuff them with polyester filling from a pillow. Cover lids with foil and PC for 90mins at 15psi. inoculate after they have cooled. Spawn the seed to coir, or coir+pasturized Hpoo/verm/gypsum if you want to be fancy about it. You can use plastic shoeboxes or monotubs if you have a lot of spawn. I'd reccomend keeping you spawn to substrate ratio 1:1 since it is your first rodeo. Good luck


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Re: First post first grow. [Re: Shroomhunts]
    #26503471 - 02/25/20 03:55 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Dude you rock.... thanx... may just do that instead of another bag....


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Re: First post first grow. [Re: Shroomhunts]
    #26503472 - 02/25/20 03:55 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Spores can take up to 30 days to germinate.


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Re: First post first grow. [Re: Mr.Wizard]
    #26503500 - 02/25/20 04:14 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

He is using lc, and if your spores take that long you are far from optimal conditions


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Re: First post first grow. [Re: Shroomhunts]
    #26503583 - 02/25/20 05:02 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

how much have you handled thee bags lol they look like tissue paper



are they in a cold garage ? is that why the mat?


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Re: First post first grow. [Re: shevanel]
    #26503793 - 02/25/20 06:35 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

They look terrible. The grains are all crappy looking and over cooked. Might be the mat. Oh and get rid of the heating mat.


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Re: First post first grow. [Re: Sockadin] * 1
    #26504052 - 02/25/20 08:54 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Not cold storage but was trying to keep an optimal temp... trying to keep as close to 76F I can get.. that’s what I’ve read is optimal.... haven’t handled the bag much.. I lift straight out to give it a look over every few days.. as for overcooked that’s what it all looked like when I received it.. think I’m just goin to try jars from here on out...


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Re: First post first grow. [Re: Alias618]
    #26506682 - 02/27/20 02:57 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

ok said fuck the bag and went right into bird seed tek as stated above. just did my innoc on two jars. and put a space heater where in storing at 80F. so we will see how this method goes.. thanx again for all the input..


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Re: First post first grow. [Re: Alias618]
    #26508205 - 02/28/20 01:16 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

You don't need to keep them that warm. ~70 degrees is fine. My temps fluctuate from 65-70 and I've never had an issue. If you can wear a t-shirt comfortably, you're good to go!


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Re: First post first grow. [Re: Myconthrope420]
    #26508211 - 02/28/20 01:21 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Tbh 78+ is yellow zone 85 red

I like 68-74


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Re: First post first grow. [Re: Myconthrope420]
    #26508220 - 02/28/20 01:24 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I’ve had tubs colonize fine in 90°+ they are tropical mushrooms after all


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Re: First post first grow. [Re: Shroomhunts]
    #26511382 - 03/01/20 01:06 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Ya know it’s funny you say the tshirt thing cuz I just read that exact same thing on a FB post lol I’ll lower my temps... maybe 72... thank you for the advice...


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Re: First post first grow. [Re: Shroomhunts]
    #26512411 - 03/02/20 07:52 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Never said they couldn't colonize at those temps, just that they colonize just fine well below that. No need to go crazy adding space heaters/heating pads etc as long as you're around 70 degrees. Just like if your ambient temperatures are already at ~80 I wouldn't go crazy running the AC lol.

One of the best lessons I've learned in this hobby is to not go crazy trying to micro-manage everything. As long as you have clean spawn the rest can just kind of happen.


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Re: First post first grow. [Re: Myconthrope420]
    #26512415 - 03/02/20 07:57 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Id stick with the bags. Even if you only get 1 fruit, print it. Then go to agar, fuck spore syringes, as I was told. Agar is my new best friend. I've had contaminated bags still produce at least 2 small flushes of great printable caps. Start new but dont toss bags unless you get no mycelium growth.


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Re: First post first grow. [Re: MycoBrainz]
    #26512730 - 03/02/20 12:05 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Haven’t had any growth in my bag at all... was inoculated on 2-13 so I moved on to bird seed and jars... hopefully something will start to grow...only time will tell...  but I will work on not micromanaging everything... just wanna get things right ya know...


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Re: First post first grow. [Re: Alias618]
    #26545139 - 03/19/20 04:39 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Ok I tried the bird seed method and seemed to work great.. I’m getting mixed opinions on if this is molded or Myc... cracked the jar to check and I don’t get any smell from it at all...http://files.shroomery.org/files/20-12/465740365-C27D2FE8-986D-4B9B-A04A-AED730DD332F.jpg][/url]


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